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Author Xi Van Fleet Discusses Her Book 'Mao's America: A Survivor's Warning"
Xi Van Fleet, author of "Mao's America," discusses the Cultural Revolution's impact on education and society. She explains how Mao targeted intellectuals and teachers, using youth indoctrinated in government schools to destroy old institutions. Van Fleet compares this strategy to modern movements like Black Lives Matter and Antifa, noting the use of divisive language and the empowerment of youth. She warns of the dangers of importing proletarians to create a larger underclass and divide American society. Van Fleet emphasizes the importance of understanding historical parallels to counter current political strategies aimed at consolidating power.
0:00:00 - Intro
0:00:20 - Cultural Revolution & It's Impact on Education
0:03:00 - Role of Intellectuals & The Great Leap Forward
0:06:32 - The Red Guards & Giving Young People Power
0:13:20 - Terminology & Counter-Revolutionaries
0:14:25 - Division By Class: Peasants, Elites & False Promises
0:20:45 - Advice to Americans, Red Flags & Communists USA
0:26:05 - Division By Oppression & Rich Hypocrisy
0:28:37 - Immigration, Recruiting Revolutionaries & Promises
0:33:16 - What Happens to Rich Liberals with Communism
0:37:15 - Dealing with Homeless & Drug Addicts & Power
0:40:35 - Labor Camps, Removing Threats & Power Struggles
0:46:13 - Puppet Masters, Globalists & Excuses to Take Power
0:48:53 - Education & Youth in China Vs America
0:53:50 - Outro
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Chuck Shute:Yes. Welcome to the show. Author of Mao's America, a very eye opening book, and you've done a lot of things. You've had a viral speech, you've been on Hannity. Tucker Carlson, I think you were recently at the White House. So please, welcome to the show.
Xi Van Fleet:Well, thank you so much. Now, I was recently invited to an event in in Congress, but tomorrow I'm going to White House. I was so you a little bit ahead. Oh, yeah, but I was invited tomorrow to, there was an event there, so I will tweet about it,
Chuck Shute:yeah. So just, I mean, we can't go through the entire book. I want people to read it, but, but, yeah, my first question was, so for you, for the your experience, you're writing from your experience as a seven you start when you're seven years old. 1966 China goes through the Cultural Revolution. And I just wondered, it sounded like a lot of it started in the schools, in education, and why you think that they started there? Because I feel like, again, I worked in education for 17 years. I have a lot of friends and family that are teachers. Many of them are very liberal, and I feel like they're buying into this propaganda. And do you think that they would be surprised to know that one of the first groups that the Chinese Communists went after was the school teachers and administrators?
Xi Van Fleet:Yeah, and okay, so this will be not an easy answer. Let me go back a little bit further than 1966 which was the time that the Cultural Revolution started. So by then, the Communist Chinese Communist Party has been in power for 17 years. How did they How did they win the victory to take over China from the nationalists. Those are the people now in Taiwan. Okay, so their base now we use the word base, right? Base. What was the base? The base was the poor peasants. Okay, so they, they mobilize the landless peasants and promised them free land. And so that was Mao's revolution. Was really a peasant revolution. So they were able, because it's up and took up to, like a 90% of the population, promised them free land. Follow me, and when the revolution was successful, you're going to have free land. And that's really how they got Anne and the radicalized intellectuals. Always intellectuals played them. He himself, Mao himself, was a radicalized intellectuals. So that is how they won the victory, first victory to gain power over China, and then after that, the real revolution started. It is the socialist revolution. So they one of the things they did in the late 1950s was to have this fantasy campaign that he believed. Mao believed that he can mobilize all the people, 600,000 now, 600 million at the time, to just to mobilize them to do one thing, to make steel and then and he believed that in 15 years, he can surpass United States. It's called a great leap forward. Everyone drop everything you know, school teachers and kids every and peasants drop out their work in the field. They did one thing, steel, making steel like a furnaces in the backyard. But that campaign failed, failed miserably. At the same time, the crops failed, and after that, it was great. Famine lasted for three years, killed up to 50 million people. So that was a big deal. That was and even in the totalitarian regime, that was a big deal. So Mao was forced to admit that, you know, he messed up, and he had forced to give up certain power, not all, and it's all happened within the party. Outside, people have no idea what was happening inside the party, but he was forced to give up some of his power and and then someone else was in charge, and he was the president of China, and tried to focus on on. Improving the economy, rather than struggle, class struggle. Mao did not like that. He's a dictator. He won all the power, so he spent about four years to have a comeback, and now fast forward to 1966 that was his cultural revolution. The goal is to take back power. Okay, imagine the first time he used the peasants. This time, his goal is to take down his own party, to take down his own government, take down his own institution. He had an army, but he really could not use the army, but that looked like a coup, right? But he had someone. He had a better army that was 10s of 1000s of kids, kids that have been indoctrinated in the government school in the past 17 years who could not think and incapable of thinking. And I was one of them. And the only thing they were taught is to follow their leader, follow their God, which is Mao. Whatever he asked him to them to do it. They will do it. That's why he did not go other, right? Like using the army. He had army, and so that is, I think at that time, it's like, I don't know the exact number, but 10s of millions of young people from elementary school, all the way to universities. And so he gave them power. That's the key. He gave them power to do whatever, and what's the he wanted them to do, to take down the destroy the four oaths, old ideas, old tradition, or old habits and the old old habits, the four transition, basically take down the transition, and also to take down what Mao called the reactionary intellectual authority, okay, because all of them he Mao regarded as a part of the rotten institution, part of the that need to be destroyed and replaced by by his own version of Marxism, which is Maoism. So what do you think the kids had in mind when they think about the authority.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, they don't like, I mean, kids don't like authority anyways, usually, yeah,
Xi Van Fleet:the teachers, right. The first thing they think about authority is the teachers. Because that's every day there's the teacher ordered them around, asking to do this and that and whatever. So they went off the teachers, and then they went after the administrators, the principals. And so it was like a rebellion of young people going after the teachers. And so at that time in China, there was not one single principle that was not spared. They have to go to go through the struggle sessions and beaten by the kids, by the kids, many of them killed, and the first one was the principal killed was by a bunch of young girls in the girls in the most prestigious Middle School for Girls in Beijing, and that was only about about three months into the Cultural Revolution. So that was the first death by the kids and and then nothing happened to them, because that's what one mo wanted. And so and the violence become the norm right after that, okay, but killing teachers was not really most goal. It's the people in power, those he considered his political enemy. So one by one by one, the the Red Guards took down those people in power. Eventually took down the president of China, Mao's arch enemy. His name was Liu Shao chi. He went through struggle sessions and then eventually imprisoned and died few years later, and we did not even know until we after the Cultural Revolution, what happened to it just disappeared, gone. So that was, I hope, that explained why kids, why teacher.
Chuck Shute:It's a small strategy. I mean, it's evil, but it's it's intelligent. It's a strategy,
Xi Van Fleet:absolutely. Absolutely give them all the power that is, you know, people say, How could this young people have that kind of power? And they can order the principle to kneel and then torture them. And then why? Because they were given the power because Mao told the young people that they were his Red Guards, and he was their commander. Red commander in chief. They have the power, and that's why people now should be able to understand why the BMA, MERS and Tifa had that kind of power. They just could do whatever in 2020 right, to burn down the whole cities and and attack people and and nothing happened to them.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, I never seen anything like that in my life where it was like the police just took, went, hands off and just left because they were scared that a police would would shoot somebody, and then there'd be a controvers so they just kind of let everybody they said, well, it's better to just let the city burn than to try to Yeah,
Xi Van Fleet:it's because someone gave them power. And that is the whole entire Democratic Party that gave them the power. Remember, Kamala was here and there, supporting all those criminals and and and gave them this, what they call that, you know, if you are a bail right, gave them bail, and that's because they those rioters, those So called revolutionaries, were empowered, just exact. That's why, when people like me saw it, oh, this is nothing new. We saw it before we saw it in China, the same time, during the Cultural Revolution, the police were warned if the the Red Guards hit you, you cannot fight, you cannot hit, that you cannot and they were, they were forbidden to go into campuses. Why? Because that's where the killing were taking place. Same thing, same thing. And eventually, Mao, this mental the whole, the so called justice. System. There is no police, absolutely chaos. And here we disabled the police. We demonize them, and we disabled them that they are not to fight back. Okay, if you do look what happened to the officer, what's his name? Share you know that Derek Chauvin, the guy that killed Yeah? Chauvin, yeah, what happened to him? He's in prayer, in prison, yeah, absolutely. And there's no way you can argue that he was doing following the what he was taught, trained for it, right? And there's just no way you can argue you end up being in jail. Who else there to do, to stand up and stop the rioters? Nobody. So it's a cultural revolution, yeah, did they, you
Chuck Shute:said they had these posters on the walls when, I mean, they didn't have social media and so that the posters, but do they have similar kind of strategies? Because here, I mean, if you look at the terminology they're using, is it's really smart, like Black Lives Matter. So if you're, if you're against that, then then you, then you don't think Black Lives Matter, and you're racist or Anti Fascist. If you're against that, then you're pro fascist. Did they do similar kinds of things? Of course. So
Xi Van Fleet:those people that they are, they are go, they went after they were not called racist. They're called counter revolutionaries and or for the those in power, like an upper level, they were called capitalist voters, capitalist voters. I know it's a stupid term. Well, what it means those those people want to take China back to capitalism, to the road of capitalism. So those are bad people. So yeah, of course, there's a ratio of racism was not a thing in China. Yeah, it was more about class, right? Yes, class and the class was over. Because by then everyone supposedly, by then it was supposedly a classless society, because all the people that own land, on property, own factory, they were eliminated by at that time. So now it is a black class versus red class. Black is the people that have wrong thoughts and have condemned as thought criminals, and then the people with in the red. Class, the people who are supporters or followers of the revolution. It's the same thing. It's just substitute the real class. Yeah, you have to have stuff by then. Nobody had stuff. Everything was taken away by the state. Yeah,
Chuck Shute:and you said Mao was from a rich family himself. I think your quote was, only these elite people have time to start a revolution everyone else.
Xi Van Fleet:Just think about the revolution. It's the same thing. You think Bernie Sanders was a proletarian and you think he was a working class person. No, he is a multi millionaires. And so it's always the case. You know that's here. You have a better word, and it's called buy it. Have you heard about that word, white liberals? And so those are the It's a Chinese word that is the Chinese people in China gave the called the white liberals, Bai Cho, which means white lefties,
Chuck Shute:interesting. No, I never heard that. I've heard limousine, oh, this, become this,
Xi Van Fleet:become into this, get into the American vocabulary. And even Tucker Carlson had a little program when it was student Fox, and they talk about this word bite. So I thought it was funny. Yeah,
Chuck Shute:did they know? What did they when you were a kid? What did they teach people in China about America, that Americans was evil, evil capitalists? And, yeah,
Xi Van Fleet:of course, it's and so starting in the very beginning, um, the Chinese Communist Party, not just Chinese Communist Party, the Soviet Union. They had a trinity of enemies, and so among them is Christianity, capitalism and United States, because United States happen to be the strongest capitalist country. So they always, always, so we're taught that it's an evil country. It's a country that is for the for the rich and the poor. Had no saying they were oppressed. Yeah, there's just like a living hells for working class people, yeah,
Chuck Shute:and it sounds like, like you said they use the peasants, and they would promise them land. And then you said they ended up getting being worse off than when they started. And then the people,
Xi Van Fleet:yeah, that is something I try to tell American people, because right now we are on the Phase One of the revolution, which is a woke revolution, and with all the promises, just like the Phase One of Chinese communist revolution, promise, what? Free land, fairness, justice, and so you follow me, we're going to build this society that is classless. That is that everyone has to share, share the same thing, which is like neighbors, just like a team, Team. Watts said socialism is labor neighborliness. That's what they believed and what happened. Okay, so they got the land because after the revolution in 1949 after they got power, and they started this campaign called land reform, all the peasants were organized to take land from the landlord. Not only that, they have to go through class struggle. You can't just like a water from central government, that you have to get the land. No, they don't want that. They want bloody conflict, because through that, they believe the peasants will will gain consciousness class consciousness, because class was not a thing in China. It's not something you're born with, and you can get rich or you can lose your fortune. So it's not but through this bloody conflict, they hope that the peasants will gain the class consciousness. And during that campaign, it took like a three years, 2 million landlord were killed, killed by who by peasants. So they turned peasants into stocks and killers, and that's what the revolution was about. So that's how they got the land. So they were happy. Okay, okay, I killed the landlord, but, you know, I'm okay with it because they got land. Mm. Uh, three years later, maybe four, the government said, you know, now everybody has a little bit land, but that's not very efficient. Let's share. Let's just put land all together. So it's called people's commune. So your land is mine, mine is yours. That's just a happy, big family. So within four years, they lost their land. Everyone, everyone so it's even today, there's no land. Every inch of land in China belong to the state. Belong to the party.
Chuck Shute:That's so yeah. And didn't you say, see, one of your biggest things about this book is, and your advice to Americans is to understand what's going on. You can't fight back if you don't understand. And that's one of the things that you mentioned, is that that's a big clue. Whenever they use the word peoples the People's Republic, the People's commune, the people's minds, a huge
Xi Van Fleet:red flag, yes, absolutely, it's not the way the people it's people's and and so this is a very important for Americans to understand, but they don't, because we lived the phase two of the communist promise. We are right now in phase one right. We still Promise, Promise, Promise, this promise that the human rights we're going to have a society that we all entitled of everything, not just life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. By the way, are entitled of housing, we're entitled, well, health care, we're entitled. Of, how about food? How about everything else? Sounds so good. And if you know history, you know what are going to happen? Really happen. But people don't know history because it's not taught, and that is by by design. When you don't know history, you thought you engaged something just just just new. And I think a lot of times in 2020 people just like shocked, what is going on, what happened to our country. And I'm sure this is shocking to a lot of people, but to people like me. Oh, seen this before, down that know what is? What the end result is? That's why, yeah, my book is really just to educate people, to let people know that this is history repeating.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, because if you make a good point about how everyone, majority of people, agree Nazis are bad, right? We agree with that. But it's like there's this now, this, this sudden resurgence of communism and socialism, or democratic socialism, or they call it different things. That's basically communism and that it's not bad. We don't, they don't talk about the history, the famines and Stalin and all these people that are communist leaders, that people have suffered under their reign, and that's people like, there's a lot of young people that want this. They are pushing, oh,
Xi Van Fleet:they want it absolutely. And the new party, you know that there is a Communist Party USA that founded in 1919 and two years before the founding of Chinese Communist Party, which was 1921 so it's called CP USA, Communist Party USA. And in recent it's kind of like a outdated and it's there, but But recently, their membership is increasing like crazy, yeah. And now we have a new party called the revolutionary Communist Party USA. And we saw them. I saw the videos of them having demonstration in Philadelphia with a flag, you know, the sickle and hammer flag. It they absolutely think this is the greatest thing. Why here? There's just so many things happened, so many things happened that history was rewritten, erased, or you or created. So why people condemn Nazi and after the World War, two laws were passed, especially in Germany. You cannot defend Nazism. You cannot even question it. You cannot even question it. If you even question a certain event during Nazi time, you can be prison, jailed. Lot of people were jailed by asking questions. And how about communism? This is the real problem, because during the World War Two, FDR and American policy makers still. Decided that somehow it is a good idea to ally with a communist regime, a totalitarian communist regime against Nazi and after the World War Two, it was the communist that put the Nazi on trial. So after World War Two was thinking like a communism, okay, even today, you can ask a lot of young people if they know any history at all, they are grateful that Soviet Union helped to defeat Nazi. How many people Nazi killed, I think it's about 20 million. How many people communist killed? Hundreds of million, right? People don't know. People don't know because it's deliberately hidden from the from the public.
Chuck Shute:Yeah. And then the whole idea is to divide people into the oppressor or the oppressed. And so, like you said, in China, they didn't, they didn't have the race thing because most people were Chinese, so that they use class, but here they're using race. But there does seem to be the class thing too. There's a lot of like, hatred towards billionaires and absolutely rich people, yeah, but yeah, right, billionaires that are on the left side, which that's what I find. Like you said, Bernie Sanders, he has three houses. He's flying private jets, but they don't call him out. He's okay to have my I don't understand it.
Xi Van Fleet:Okay, you, you. This is what happened. Okay? So, classic. Marxism is based on class class struggle. It's all everything, whatever happened. They call it class struggle. And that was a mouse model. Um, we will talk about class struggle every year, every month, every day. It is the thing, you know, we have, okay, but that did not really work in the classic Marxism did not work in industrialized country. It never worked. It's supposed the the his the revolution is supposed to take place in UK, Germany and France. Back then, in the mid, mid 1800 United States was not even that much industrialized. So Mark Karl Marx think, thought that those are the countries that will see the the uprising of the working class and then the Communist revolution that did not happen, and because coming capitalism somehow able to generate enough wealth that created a middle class, right? So no one having a okay life, if not great, would join your revolution, and which might mean that you lose everything you live in your life. So, so the first communist revolution that took place, that successfully took place was in the backwarded country of Russia, and then China was even less developed. So, but okay, it was successful. But in order to take down the west, you have to do something different, because they just won't work. And so that is why we have cultural Marxism, right?
Chuck Shute:Yeah. Do you think I wanted to get your take on immigration and that whole thing, because I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime where the border was just so open. Were they bringing these immigrants in to help with the revolution? Or because, yeah, it was under the guise of, oh, we care about these people. Give them help and,
Xi Van Fleet:okay, help me to stay on track. So I'm getting somewhere. So because the Cultural Marxism is tailor made for the West, so you still have class, because that's the the Bernie Sanders breed, right? They still talk about rich against the poor, but that's just not enough. If that's all they talk about, it's just not enough, so they have to go broaden it. And in America, what you do, of course, race. So it's a black against the white. Now it is non white against white. They're now against brown people, black people, brown and whatever. And then sex, women against men, and then it is, and it is sexuality, gay against whatever they call cis people, cisgender. They made it up. And then it's the absolute. They just expand, expand, expand. Why to divide? Okay, so when you talk about, when you talk about immigration, okay, there's a lot of things going on about immigration. One to me, the easiest way to understand it is to import proletarians. You is proletarians, the word that you know, Marx. Marxists use proletarians against the Bucha. That was the terms that I grew up with. Proletarians are the pressed. Bourgeois was the oppressor. Okay, so the reason they want to import so many, we know that they want import voters. They also want to import enough proletarian to change the markup of the population, right? So, so if you look at that way, it's just easy to understand. And where do these people go? They don't go to the rural areas. They all pretty much go to the city, and then they can make stronghold for the Democrats and keep those states blue, because the more underclass, the bigger it is. It's easier for them because they promise them. They always promise them free stuff. So in a way, this is how I look at it. The the open border is really a way for them to import the poor people so that they can have a better way to have class struggle. The Marxist, the classic Marx doctrine, class struggle that you create, you can expand the underclass, because those people mostly come here and get into what cities and and join on, join the underclass, right, right. Yeah. That's how I look at and of course, they don't. And the people that come in is another way to divide them the American society, because those people, most of them, do not share the same value. And then you created tribes, and that's what they want, and all the things they do is create more tribes. That tribes with some kind of identity. We are not short of any identity if you don't have one, created one, because that is what they do. They create tribes. When we have tribes everywhere, we don't have a United States of America. We have a divided States of America. And then that's how they control. And then you one of the biggest questions, why they do that? Why Mao would divide all the people and state them against each other? We know why. Mao, right. You want power. Yeah, I control, and he got power. Same thing here, same thing here. They want to divide. And through division, they take control because they want power. So,
Chuck Shute:yeah, in your mind, in your view, seeing this play out in real time if things continued, and it did go to the phase two or the next levels. These, these, some of these elites, like, there's a lot of celebrities you mentioned your book, like Don Lemon, you know, he's considered oppressed. You know, Bruce Springsteen recently spoke out against Trump, you know, and you say in the book that fancy clothes and hairstyles are banned. How would these like Hollywood elites and the rich liberals? How would they? How would it work out for them? Like, are they getting screwed over?
Xi Van Fleet:Yes, this is the I'm glad we need to keep on track, because if, if, sometimes I just go off track, just go back to the mouse revolution. So I said in his first revolution, it was poor peasants. And poor peasants is the majority, majority of the population. And then they have the radicalized intellectuals. So the intellectuals actually are where to do people you can't be in lecture if you're third poor right, usually from rich family. And they kind of like today's white liberals. They feel like they know what's the best way for people to live. They want to liberate the marginalized people. They want to help the marginalized people. So that's there, because in the West, it's even worse. Why? Because the Cultural Marxism have indoctrinated so many people they absolutely believe in the. Original Sin, the white guilt, and the sin of the white sin, which is slavery, Jim Crow, they absolutely believe that they are responsible for it. And so Cultural Marxism, give your way out, give you a redemption you can attempt by what, by join the revolution, by become, you know, become a part of the the woke of revolution, because yours now you stand for the oppressed. Now you stand for the marginalized, and you become part of the revolution. But again, what happened in China? That is why it's just so important for people to understand what happened, what happened to those intellectuals after the Cultural and after the the communist took over power. They did land reform. II described already, right? They also did something called thought reform,
Chuck Shute:right? Yeah, those are the same thought right? Isn't that what you said? Thought
Xi Van Fleet:reform? Yeah. So those are for those intellectuals that helped with the revolution, the same people that helped the revolution now become a danger, because they think right. The peasants don't think they gave them land. They will be happy, supposedly, right? But the intellectuals, they think so. They have this thought reform that took place. But the same time. So they are the target is the intellectuals, and after that they have the anti right campaign. So it's like a non stop. And during that campaign, millions of intellectuals, or the so called liberals, they persecuted and some sent to the labor camp. Many died there, and that is what happened to the liberals.
Chuck Shute:And what about how did China deal with the I want to know how they helped dealt with this problem in the past, and how they deal with it now, because here we have a big thing with drug addicts, homeless people, vagrants, people on disability, a lot of people that just want to do nothing, and they want to do their drugs and and just be free or whatever. Like, how would that work? How does that work? In China, if someone's just, I want to be homeless and I'm just going to smoke pot or drink, like, because don't they see you as like, kind of an employee of the state, like you need to be producing, and if you're not producing, then they don't want to, they want them to get rid
Xi Van Fleet:of you, right? The key is to understand whether homeless will be helpful for those who want power here too, right? It's helpful. Okay,
Chuck Shute:one power, but then once they have the power, then what do they do? They don't get okay?
Xi Van Fleet:Now let me go back to China. Okay, that's kind of a that's what I try to tell people. We have to compare what happened in China is that, before the they when they took power and the government, they then the China, the Chinese Communist Party, actually were cultivating opium for money because they have, they don't have enough money to sustain themselves, so they actually began to cultivate opium and then traffic that out to the government controlled areas, which Is the nationalist so because they want money, so they don't care, because they're all Chinese, right? Yeah. Some is under their rule in in certain parts of China, and the others are under the government of Republic of China. They traffic, they, they traffic the opium to the government controlled area in exchange for money to sustain their base. Okay? So after and they did not allow the to be distributed within their area, tightly controlled, you can't, okay, so once the the two call the took over China. They want people to obey. They want people to be productive. They almost right away the banned drug use, the banned prostitution, the. Banned everything that's supposed to be bad, but before they they encourage that, because that become a disabled, a way to disable the destabilize the society. Yeah, so and so. You think those rioters today, they can just go into the store and loot and there's no problem. Now once, if Kamala and the Democrats had total power, they would not like that. They would send all those looters and whatever to concentration camp or to a labor camp, not concentration camp, to labor camp.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, is that where you went? You said you went to the countryside? Yeah, yeah, they do the what is it's like brainwashing or re education, like, what is that? It sounds scary.
Xi Van Fleet:Okay, that is another story that is a after the we're everywhere. Okay, so after the Red Guards took, took the power for Mao, they become a problem. They were absolutely become a become a thugs, and that's how they did everything for Mao. But after their job is finished, they become a threat to Mao. So Mao send them all to the countryside and to get so called RE education from the peasants and so. And also, the other reason is that the there's no jobs, and Mao destroyed everything. There's no jobs in city, and he did not want to have a lot of unemployed youth, you know, roaming around the city, so he sent all high school kids to the countryside, and that's what happened to me. But also, I mentioned about the the labor camp for the intellectuals, for thought reform. So that is always a way for them to get rid of people they don't want and send them to labor camp.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, because they you think like, if you're, if you're really good, you're on the side, you're you're on mouse side, and you're high up. But then he you think like you're doing really good, right? But then he looks at you and he sees a threat, and he wants to remove the threat, because he wants absolute power.
Xi Van Fleet:That's what I'm trying to tell American people. AOC, you think you're on the rise. And a lot of those are like a like a Mark Cuban thought that they were on the right side, right? That is on the winning side. And then whatever. Now none, none of them is it's communism is not safe for anyone. Even Mao turned seems to be a winner. But as soon as he died, his widow was put on trial, at a show trial, and sentenced to death. Okay, so there's like there were just no winner, and people don't understand why there's no winner, because with even if you get into the winning side, you climb up the power structure, because the power is never stable, and there is a Non stop power, strong struggle and the most ruthless main way. But you know that Xi Jinping now may lose power. There is a very fierce game fight going on in in within the CCP, we may learn soon that he's out of power and that, I don't know how brutal this time he is, he may just disappear. We don't know, but no one is safe. You, when you have communism, totalitarianism, this totalitarian power structure, structure, no one is safe, no one. So
Chuck Shute:how can they? Can they can just take power. They can just kind of bully their way in and just take him out and just take it.
Xi Van Fleet:I don't even know, because I'm never there. It's you cannot trust anyone, right? You You look for an old for opponent or attackers. It is not a way to live, but that's what a totalitarian system is, is about. So here, you know, sometimes I would just thinking why they would want to do this. We finally figured out a way, in countries like the United States, everyone can have power, right? If you you're power hungry, you can have power. What you need to do? You need to convince the voters, right, that you have a good idea and that somehow you convince them that you you are the one people were put to power. But the problem with that is the power is limited, not only limited in power, but you cannot. Be in power forever. So there's a lot of limitation for people like the communists that's just not good enough. They want not just power. They want permanent and absolute power, and that's what the communist here want to achieve. The same thing they want, like one party system that they choose who will be the leader. So where, this is what I imagine, if Kamala succeeded, succeeded and and they have permanent power, will still have the election. We're still have two candidates, one Republican and what? But we know that it is a woman for show. They pick who will be the press, the president and the president, and God knows how they get there through the power struggle. And so that is the thing they don't want to power through the democratic process. They want power just like you know what happened in Russia and in China permanent
Chuck Shute:Who do you think is? Yeah, who do you think is pulling the strings behind a lot of this stuff? Do you know who is kind of behind the scenes? Because the Democrats raised, I think, a billion dollars for this campaign. There's a lot of money being thrown to the left to stay in power. Do you know who, like you have theories as to who it is that's perfectly
Xi Van Fleet:I don't. Oh, you know we can only, we can only guess. And my guess is that it's not, it's the globalist it's a group of people, yeah, so they want control and of not just United States or not just the West, they want to control the entire world. And so they are the ones behind all this. They say Obama's third term. I think Obama's first two terms was also controlled by those people so and I think a lot of this presidents that we had were controlled by those people. That's why they hate Trump so much. That's why Trump posed such a threat, because no one can control him, and that's all, I think, yeah, what?
Chuck Shute:No, what do you think? Because there's like, a meme I saw that was like, it said something about, like, why doesn't, why don't they care about climate change in China? And it's because, well, they already have communism there. Do you feel like climate change?
Xi Van Fleet:It's Paul, it's, yeah, it's excuse. It's absolute excuse. Climate crisis and what they are really after gave me more power, I will solve the problem power. Give me more power everything they do, you know, so I would, you know, sometimes I think I'm just probably need to be a little subtle, more subtle, but I'm not subtle. You cannot give them benefit of doubt. Every intention they have is driven by power. That means all their intention, their intention is evil. It's never, never about the marginalized people. It's never about the black people. It's never about the gays and and trans it's all about power,
Chuck Shute:right? Because they don't have the trans thing in China, it's kind of interesting. There's a billion I think his name is Roy Singham, and he's from he's a member of the Chinese Communist Party, and he donates a lot of money to the trans movement here in America, but he doesn't donate any money to to it for China. So it's kind of
Xi Van Fleet:wants chaos here. Everything they do is for power, and everything they do is for division and chaos. What
Chuck Shute:about education in China? Because that does seem to be an area that, I mean on paper, at least it's, you know, China, kids in China, their test scores and things are much higher than America. They have, I know, tick tock and what
Xi Van Fleet:had an ex. He had a tweet, and I think I can't find it anymore. He said, you know, China is doing a great job, and we, we can't be left behind. China is not doing a great job now they have total control of the educational system, and then they really, really treat the kids as slaves. It is not a desirable place to be as a kid, so the Mother's Day just just a few weeks ago, and then there is something when went viral. So there's a lot of kids went to social media said, A Mother's Day, I wish I was never born so that I don't have to put up. Life with this kind of like a this life as a student. As a little kid, you work from the moment you woke up, more work, more work, and and then, then the homework, homework until bedtime. And then we can you have to go to get tutored and some kind of extra classes, and the goal is to get to college, get to the best college, and then when you get out of college, two thirds of the people can't find jobs. Nowadays, it is not it's not about creativity, it's about memorizing. It is about Absolutely. It's about control. So I don't think that that's true. Do in that process, in that system, you create some very, very good students with like, a math skills and but overall, that system is so rotten that really treat kids as resources for the party. Because before Mao wants those kids to be revolutionaries, today, Xi Jinping want those kids to be his slaves to build his empire. You know, it's all about power, power in different faiths and the different stages. Now he he did not want those people, the kids, to be revolutionary, to make trouble, because he's in power. He had power. He just want them to obey and serve, not for themselves, but for the party and for him, and, yeah, for the government. I hope that makes sense.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, no, it does, I think, because, I mean, you talk about that, like, how the one thought it's just everybody must think the same. And you mentioned that in your book about how when you got to Western Kentucky, you're like, oh, like, I'm supposed to, like, think for myself. No one's ever asked me what I thought about things. I was always just supposed to think the same thing that the the Chinese Communist Party thought. So I thought, No,
Xi Van Fleet:I just told you. I was saying, yeah. So, yeah, exactly. So I we have a problem. Here we are experienced Mao's Cultural Revolution, and then when Mao want to use the kids as revolutionaries to overthrow the government so that he can took power, right? Can consolidate power. That's why we're now. Now they don't care about learning academics or improve your skills. Now they won't turn them into activists, or another word, revolutionaries, because right now, they want the kids to be their army of rebellion, and just like Mao did during the Cultural Revolution, so different stages called for different strategies. So Mao use different strategies for power. And right now, here they are doing. Everything they do, everything they do is about how to get power, how to get more power, how to get to this to the states that they have control of everything, and just like a one party and one group that make decisions and take over the entire world.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, well, you've written the book. You're doing interviews. You're doing your part. I'm trying to do my part by sharing this information. Hopefully people will listen, and again, the book is available now people, I'll put the show or the link in the show notes. And thank you so much for doing this. It's It's two o'clock, so I want to let you get out of here, but I appreciate you taking the time to do this. I really do
Xi Van Fleet:well. Thank you so much. Okay, it's a great conversation. All right, yes,
Chuck Shute:absolutely. Thank you so much. Goodbye. Bye.
