Casandra Carson Talks New Project with George Lynch, Paralandra Tour with Tantric & more!

Casandra Carson is a singer, songwriter and guitarist for Paralandra & The L.I.F.E. Project.  In this episode she discussed her new project with George Lynch, "Cassandra's Crossing," set to release on October 25. She highlighted the creative process and the influence of Lynch's guitar tracks. Casandra also mentioned her upcoming tour with Tantric, Scotty Austin, and Lynch Mob, and her past experiences with bands like Seven Year Witch and Warrant. She emphasized the importance of live shows for building a fan base and the role of streaming platforms like Spotify in discovering new music. Casandra also touched on her ongoing project with Josh Rand from Stone Sour and the challenges of balancing multiple musical endeavors.

00:00 - Intro
00:12 - Blurred Background & Recording Setup
01:21 - Living in Rogersville, Missouri
02:42 - Touring & Entertainment Preferences
04:51 - Upcoming Performances & Touring Challenges
10:47 - Casandra's Crossing & Collaboration with George Lynch
15:20 - Drummer Jordan Cannata & Songwriting Influences
19:59 - Building a Fan Base & Social Media Strategy
26:20 - Future Projects & Live Performances
31:00 - Outro

Paralandra website:
https://paralandrarocks.com/

Casandra Carson Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialCasandraCarson/

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Transcript

Chuck Shute: 0:12

Music, awesome. I like the what do you call that? Like the blurred background. It looks cool.

Casandra Carson: 0:17

Yes, it's called blur. Thank you. Okay,

Chuck Shute: 0:20

it's not that clever of a name, I guess. But yeah, let's go for people who can't see who are listening on audio. Got to describe the setting here. It's like, yeah, you got the cool, blurred background. I think that's called,

Casandra Carson: 0:32

my room is messy. Oh, we're going for the blur effect. That's

Chuck Shute: 0:36

awesome. Yeah, I remember I interviewed Alice Cooper's daughter, Calico, and she was in her like, closet. It was so funny. There was, like, clothes all over. It's like, this is where I do podcasts. I was like, Okay, this is

Casandra Carson: 0:49

cool. It's fun. Yeah, probably good sound dampening in there. That makes sense, yeah? Well, I

Chuck Shute: 0:54

prefer that. I would rather have the good sound and a little mess or whatever. Then, like, people, they'll go outside and there'll be wind, or they'll be in an echoey bathroom, and, yeah, it's like,

Casandra Carson: 1:05

I've got like, seven dogs next door barking their

Chuck Shute: 1:07

heads. Oh, the dogs. That's annoying, and that's really hard. You can't control that. I mean, you know, like, you don't want to send you don't want to see them, like, yell at the dog. And if you're an animal lover, it's like, even if they're doing it properly. You're supposed to school dogs, I guess a little bit, but yeah, right,

Casandra Carson: 1:25

nobody around here does they just let them go. It's great.

Chuck Shute: 1:29

Where and where are you? Are you in Springfield? Now

Casandra Carson: 1:32

I'm in Rogersville, Missouri, so it's just a little town east of Springfield that is kind of out in the middle of nowhere. It's great. Yeah, okay, so

Chuck Shute: 1:42

you like living in the country,

Casandra Carson: 1:44

I do, yeah, it's like 15 minutes removed from the city, so I'm close enough where I can get where I need to go, and also have nice peace and quiet, you know, at the same time. That's perfect.

Chuck Shute: 1:58

So a Springfield, that's like the big city, I mean, like a band would come there and stuff and tour, yeah,

Casandra Carson: 2:03

yeah, it's like, they call it the Queen City of the Ozarks, but there's like, Kansas City, St Louis or the big Missouri cities, and then southwest Springfield is the big city.

Chuck Shute: 2:15

Okay, so that's near like Ozark. Like you ever watched that show? Ozark? That show's crazy.

Casandra Carson: 2:20

I never watched it, because I live it, dude, like there is a trailer park just like a couple streets down from me that was getting busted for meth every weekend. I mean, it's like, Dude, this is my life. Watch it.

Chuck Shute: 2:36

The stereotypes are true that it's

Casandra Carson: 2:39

I assume. So again, I never watched it, so I can't totally confirm, but yeah, um, you know, there's some pretty crazy stuff going on out here.

Chuck Shute: 2:48

I bet you do. You watch a lot of Netflix and stuff when you're touring, because I'm assuming there's a lot of downtime when you're touring and on the boat. Like, that's to me, I always think that, like back in the 80s, I think that's why they did so many drugs, because they're, like, kind of so bored. I'm just gonna do drugs. But now it's like, you can, you know, watch Netflix and so then you could do so many things on your phone and laptop while you're touring, right?

Casandra Carson: 3:09

It's true. Yeah, I, I've been watching Breaking Bad recently, which is funny

Chuck Shute: 3:14

that you I just rewatched the entire series, dude.

Casandra Carson: 3:17

I'm watching it for the first time. I'm like, halfway through the fourth season. And, yeah, it's, it's great. It's everything that everybody has hyped it up to be. I just took a long time to get on that wagon. That's

Chuck Shute: 3:31

so funny that, yeah, we literally just rewatched that, and now we're rewatching Better Call Saul. Have you seen that one yet?

Casandra Carson: 3:38

No, I haven't watched that yet, but I have a feeling I'm gonna have to jump on that train too. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 3:42

So that's the spin off. It's like the prequel of, I don't know if you've gotten to the seasons with, if you're season four, you probably have Saul Goodman as the lawyers and, yeah, okay, so yeah, those shows are so, I mean, I think I've rewatched Breaking Bad maybe five or six times, all through, all the way through, and every time it's still it's just like, you get addicted to it, even if you've seen it, like, I gotta see the next one. It's so good.

Casandra Carson: 4:06

Yeah, yeah, it's very addicting. I have to, like, limit myself to, like, three episodes a day. I feel like that's a good amount. Otherwise, I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing with my life. Start zoning out, like, I don't know what reality is. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 4:19

I mean, it is those distractions. That's, I guess that's the downside of having all this technology is, is a is all the distractions? Because I think we talked before just about how much work you have to do for your bands, like, you're kind of like the manager, right? I mean, you're doing everything. Yeah,

Casandra Carson: 4:35

I do a lot of it. Um, luckily, in the last few months I have not had to do so much in the booking area, we have had a lot of help, like in going on tour with tantric and Scotty Austin and lynch mob, like a lot of these shows, have been taken care of by the agents. So I have to say, I've been able to breathe a little bit more in that department. Well, that's

Chuck Shute: 4:55

so nice, yeah. So they just, it's like their tour, and they just say. Do you want this slot or whatever? And they've kind of already got it set up.

Casandra Carson: 5:03

Does this date work for you? Yes, check at it. Oh, it's amazing. Yeah, so good.

Chuck Shute: 5:11

That's awesome. So yeah, it's Scotty Austin from who was the former frontman from saving able, yes man trick. And then I think that goes up until November, and then it shifts. And then it's Scotty Austin and seven year witch, which I think I've had those guys on the podcast a while ago. They're really great band, too.

Casandra Carson: 5:26

Oh yeah, they were awesome. We played with them in Georgia last weekend. It was my first time seeing them, and they put on just like a wild show. It's it's so much fun to watch, but then the music is great, super groovy stuff. I mean, I loved it. I'm excited to do more shows with them. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 5:44

I wish that they were on that, because you're coming here to Arizona on November 10, I believe. But I think that is with, not with seven year. I wish it was all four bands. There's none of that. You're doing that with four of them, right? It's just,

Casandra Carson: 5:56

yeah, November 10 will be tantric sky, Austin, US, and then a local band called tricus, which we played with them last time we were at the 44 I think it was about a year ago, something like that, okay, or, wait, was it last summer, dude, I don't know. My perception of time is so so askew. I

Chuck Shute: 6:17

think last time too, you told me you were going to go to Winslow, Arizona, which right? Did

Casandra Carson: 6:22

you do that? Oh, right, stand on a corner in Winslow, Arizona? Yeah, I feel like probably

Chuck Shute: 6:31

does it start to blur together all the cities and everything. Just

Casandra Carson: 6:34

it kind of does sometimes. But we really like to sightsee and like, if we have time, like whenever we went to Roswell, we went to the alien Museum, like when we were in Albany, Georgia, we like, stopped by the little Ray Charles statue in the park, which was pretty cool, like the sidewalks were all piano like keys anyway, so that's Cool when we're just driving through it? Not so much, but

Chuck Shute: 7:04

yeah, so you guys do when you to the way you tour, I'm assuming you have a tour bus then, or we

Casandra Carson: 7:09

do van and trailer. Okay, not so bougie, but good for gas mileage.

Chuck Shute: 7:16

Yeah. I mean, it's still economical to you know, because it's just so hard to tour I feel like now with, I mean, you have to, like, figure all that stuff out that you're gonna make enough so that it makes sense to do it, right?

Casandra Carson: 7:29

Yeah, absolutely. Factor in the gas, hotels, food, you know, got to survive at the same time, yeah?

Chuck Shute: 7:37

Because I know, like, warrant and stuff, a lot of those bands, they'll just do like a fly in date, especially like casino I feel like those are, I just saw Brett Michaels at the casino here, and I mean those, I think those are good gigs for musicians. I think they pay well, and they always have a nice green room and stuff.

Casandra Carson: 7:53

Oh yeah, casinos, they're the best about taking care of their artists. It's always like five star accommodations, like great green room, they'll normally hook you up with, like, the buffet or something, which is like, oh, for a musician,

Chuck Shute: 8:09

right? And then the thing I like about casino shows too, is like, you know, like, if you're just going to see the band that you're going to see, you know, sometimes you go to these bars and there's like, 17 local opening bands, because they don't want you to leave, because they make all their money from the alcohol, right? But then the casino, they're like, We want you to we want people to come for the show and then get out and get back in the casino. So it's always like, there's usually no opening band, and it's like, get in, do the shows? Get out? Like, get back to the casino and gamble.

Casandra Carson: 8:36

Yes, that is totally and it's so weird compared to club shows, like you're saying, because, like, as soon as it's over, it's like, everybody out, we're done, no one in a theater. You know, we played with Warren and Lita Ford in Vegas this summer, and that was the same deal, just like, get in, get out. But it was amazing again, like 10 stars, the way that they treated us so much fun, and we got to play in like, Elvis's theater. The staff gave us a little tour of all the cool spots backstage, but all of a sudden, you froze, and then it kicked me out. But yeah, I

Chuck Shute: 9:14

just checked. I was like, Was it my internet? I think my internet is good, so it's your problem. I

Casandra Carson: 9:19

don't know. Mine still has full bars too. So maybe it's probably me, though I'm the one living out in the country. So, oh,

Chuck Shute: 9:27

I don't know. Well, whatever. Hopefully it doesn't do it again. But yeah, so you were saying that that's so cool. You played in Vegas with Warren. I should have drove up for that, because I'm not that. I'm only five hours away, but I didn't know Warren was like playing in Cottonwood, Arizona, like, this past weekend, I don't even know, so I should pay attention. But that sounds like a fun show, though.

Casandra Carson: 9:45

Oh yeah, it's awesome. And Warren, like, they're so freaking good, they kill it every night. It's just, it's a fun show. And I'm sure, you know, like, the nostalgia factor is probably way more for other people than me. But like, you. It's still just awesome to see, like, a bunch of guys, and it's like, pretty much all original members, except for Janie, um, but Robert Mason kills it every single night on the vocals. And like, they're just tight. They have that camaraderie, you know, um, yeah, they're great. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 10:15

I love one of my favorite bands I've had Eric and Joey on the show. I'd still have to get Jerry and Steven just to I just want every member just to tell it, because there's so many different stories and stuff to tell. But yeah, every time I see him, they're, they're great. And Robert Mason, amazing singer, and I love him in lynch mob too.

Casandra Carson: 10:34

Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 10:37

I just had oni Logan on the show. He doesn't, he doesn't do a lot of interviews, but he's really nice guy too.

Casandra Carson: 10:42

Oh, wow. I've only met oni once. I got to run into him on the MOS was a rock cruise a few years ago. That was really cool. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 10:50

so you're doing this talk about this project that you have with George Lynch. You've got the full album. I think two songs are out now. It's called Cassandra's crossing. And you said this is the favorite thing, your most favorite thing you've ever written, this album, honestly,

Casandra Carson: 11:04

yeah, I think so this is probably my, my favorite writing, or maybe my most accomplished that I've ever done. Um, George, like, laid down such an amazing foundation. Like, whenever I got the songs, it was just like all of his final guitar tracks with a very basic drum loop. So, like, I mean, just basic, basic bones of songs. But anyway, I got to, like, write all these lyrics, and I got to write all these melodies, and I felt like it really pushed me to be a better, you know, songwriter and a better creator. So some of it was a little scary. It was like, Oh my gosh, I don't know what the heck I'm supposed to sing over this. Like, what am I going to do? But I would just like listen to it while I was at the gym, on repeat, and just kind of like sing along. And every once in a while, melodies or lyrics would just pop out at me. And anyway, I ended up creating, yeah, some of my favorite music I've ever done. So

Chuck Shute: 12:02

a lot of times it does just come to you, because I, I just had this guy. I don't know if you ever watched, like, Celebrity Rehab, but Bob forest, he was a musician too, but then he's like, a drug counselor, but he was friends with, like, Red Hot Chili Peppers. And he said, See for him, like, when he's doing music, he said it just comes to him, but he said he's friends with Red Hot Chili Peppers. And Anthony Kiedis, he said he would have all these like, notebooks and, like, he would, like, have to piece it together. And it was really more of like an ex, like, he did a lot of work, basically, to create lyrics, whereas, for some people, just comes to them, yeah,

Casandra Carson: 12:32

it's, it's both for me for sure, like, I've got a note in my phone that's just, like, all random lyric ideas, and most of them will have like, some kind of melody to them that I can just, like, remember, by like, looking at the Lyric and I'm like, Oh yeah, there's another little idea or whatever. But then also sometimes, whenever I'm writing a song, I won't pull from that bank and I'll, like, create a whole separate bank of all these lyric ideas for like, one song. And so sometimes it is like piecing things together, like, oh well, this line kind of works here, and this one kind of works here. How do I connect that? How do I make this like a clear, concise story from beginning to end? So sometimes it is a little bit of like filling in the holes and and piecing it together. Other times, it kind of just flows out and it's natural. So, oh no.

Chuck Shute: 13:26

Like, the song impatient you talk about, like, something about, there's a line, like, never traveled to the Northern Lights, like, is that something that you've just wanted to do, and then it just kind of came to you as a lyric,

Casandra Carson: 13:37

yeah, uh, that's something I've always wanted to go see and, that line was just kind of talking about, I'm not going to go do it without you, without my significant significant other, without my boyfriend, but just kind of like holding off on those experiences that you really want to have in your life, but like wanting to experience them with your special person, too.

Chuck Shute: 14:01

Yeah. And then the song stranger, great singing on that great guitar work. But also you mentioned that the songs came in with just a basic drum loop, but I thought the drums were on that one stranger, really good. Who did? Who's the drummer on the track? Yeah,

Casandra Carson: 14:16

Jordan Cannata. Um, he's from slaughter, and he slaughtered the drums like every single song on this record. He obliterated in the best way, just amazing. Like, actually, have you been able to listen to any of the tracks besides the singles that have come out?

Chuck Shute: 14:35

No, they, I looked, and I think they only sent me the the two, and I didn't realize, like, Oh, it does. It's not the full album isn't out yet,

Casandra Carson: 14:42

right? Okay, it comes out on october 25 but, um, anyway, there's a song on the album called ring me around, and I never heard any of Jordan's final drum tracks until I was going into the studio to record my final vocals and litter. Really like the song that I had written to was a completely different feel than the one that he reported, and he hadn't heard my lyrics or my melodies whenever he wrote his drum parts. So like, anyway, somehow, like, we all had these different ideas that ended up just piecing together, like perfectly, and creating this really cool song that I was not expecting. So, yeah, anyway, Jordan did amazing work on this album and threw me for a loop on numerous occasions, in a very good way,

Chuck Shute: 15:34

interesting. So the drums, I mean that can be part of the songwriting, because I know with Metallica, a lot of the songs are written by James and Lars, and I don't know, I'd be curious to have them on the podcast, because I'm just curious, like, how they write with with drums, like, how so that sometimes that does play a part in the actual song, and the melody of the song and the rhythm, I guess you would start with the drums, or change things through the drums, yeah?

Casandra Carson: 15:58

Like, if I had heard Jordan's drums on this track ring me around. Before I had written my lyrics and melodies, I absolutely would have done something different, because it just like kind of swings in a very odd but like cool way, nothing that I would ever anticipate or expect. So yeah, yeah, drums can be a pretty big part of songwriting, and it just happened to work out really well in this one instance that it was kind of crazy.

Chuck Shute: 16:29

That's cool. I didn't know slaughter had a different drummer, because I know they used to have Zoltan Chaney, who I loved. I thought he was one of my favorite drummers, just just from, like, watching him, like, how he's such a performer, like he would do all these, like, crazy stunts and, like, jump off his drum school. Have you ever seen him?

Casandra Carson: 16:46

No, I haven't, but that's funny, because Jordan does a lot of the same stuff. Oh, okay. He learned, like, charismatic drummer, yeah, entertainer, okay,

Chuck Shute: 16:57

yeah. That's very I like those kind of drummers. I mean, I like all kinds of musicians, guitars, singing and everybody you know. Like, when you can do things that stand out, especially as a drummer, you're not just doing the same old playing the beat. You're actually like doing something that stands out. Like, drum I love drum solos. I had a drummer, I think was David Lee Ross drummer, and he goes, Oh, I don't, I don't like doing drum solos. Like, really, how do you not love doing a drum so if you're a drummer, yeah,

Casandra Carson: 17:21

for real. Like, that's your one opportunity to go crazy. Isn't that? Like, what every drummer wants to do,

Chuck Shute: 17:26

yeah, I guess some don't. They just want to kind of hang out in the background and just play the beat.

Casandra Carson: 17:32

Wow. Well, I mean, I don't get that, but All right, I'm not a drummer.

Chuck Shute: 17:36

Yeah, that's why you're the singer. You get to be in the front and

Casandra Carson: 17:40

yeah, I guess, I guess so, yeah, these solos too.

Chuck Shute: 17:43

I mean, George's solo is, like, it's crazy that he can it's almost like he sounds like he got better, you know what? I mean, like, he's always amazed me. But kind of, I listen to these souls, I'm like, he really is an amazing guitar player. Because people like, I've had him on my show, and like, you know, I've interviewed Don dawkin and people, so people will talk about him and rave how great he is. And I don't think I really appreciated it until I, you know, started listening to these songs. I was like, God, yeah, he really is amazing. Yeah,

Casandra Carson: 18:11

it's super inspiring, too. Because, like, I mean, I was thinking the same thing, and I showed the tracks to my dad, and he said the same thing, like, this is just like, I mean, it's George Lynch to a T but it's fresh, like, this guy has not stopped advancing and getting better, and that makes me just, like, super inspired, you know, in every aspect of being a musician. Just like to continue getting better and, you know, striving to do something that I haven't done before, you know, like, somehow George is still cranking out awesome, unique, you know, guitar solos and riffs and stuff. So, yeah,

Chuck Shute: 18:52

I think that's the path of a lot of musicians, is that they do get better with time. It's just the problem is, like, the music business, or at least the way it used to be, it was like, you had this window, and then it was like, okay, that that band is too old now they're not cool. And then it was like they wouldn't give people a chance to listen to their newest music, like, Warren's a perfect example. Like, a lot of the stuff that they did that, you know, in the 90s, that when warrant wasn't, you know, fashionable or whatever. Like, I love that stuff. So I think it was like Jamie Lane wrote some of his best songs after the band's peak of popularity. Yeah,

Casandra Carson: 19:26

it's crazy how that happens. But you know, with the development of a band, I feel like if you just keep being together after all those years, you're just going to keep growing together. I mean, sometimes people don't like the band's later albums, and they should just play the old stuff. But you know, like, I think the goal is to just always be getting better. And like, you know, it's just a competition with yourself just trying to outdo yourself every day. I guess at least that's how I look at it. No,

Chuck Shute: 19:52

that's perfect, yeah. And, I mean, and you guys are still growing as a band, and so, like, when you open for, like, a warrant and an elite afford, and that. Kind of stuff, or like this tour with tantric and stuff, are you, I'm assuming that you're building a fan base, like you're building up new exposing the band to people who had never seen it before? Absolutely,

Casandra Carson: 20:11

yeah, that's why it's so important to get out there and tour. I mean, you know, like you were saying it's like, financially, sometimes it makes no sense to go on tour, but then you go out there, and you get in front of these people that may have never heard of you or seen you before, and now they're fans for life. So for me, there's a huge value that goes into that, and that's why it's all worth it. For me,

Chuck Shute: 20:35

I agree. I think even if, like, you break even on a tour, or even if maybe you lose a little bit. I think in the long run, if you're trying to build a brand and build fans, you kind of have to do that for a little bit. I mean, it's like a lot of businesses, what do they say? Like, most businesses lose money in the first five years, or whatever it's like, you gotta build up the brand. Build up I think Amazon, which is a perfect example. I remember, like, watching an interview years ago with Bezos, and he was saying how much money they were losing, because they just, they it was more important for them to get customers to then to make a profit. And of course, now, I mean, they're making a huge profit. So I think that's kind of the way you've got to build a brand up and build fans, which you're obviously doing with the touring. And then also the other part, I think, is social media, right,

Casandra Carson: 21:17

right? Exactly, interacting with people responding to comments like you wouldn't even realize how far that goes, just to say thank you, you know. And then you're acknowledging someone, and they feel special, and now they have a connection with you, and maybe they come back for some more connection later. Maybe they listen to your song because they're like, Wow, that was really cool. Um, so yeah, you know, little droplets at a time, yeah. And

Chuck Shute: 21:43

then what about and then also getting on radio. And I feel like even bigger than radio is the playlist? Do you have a strategy for for doing that? Or is that, just like, if people like it, they put it on the playlist? We

Casandra Carson: 21:55

have used, like, um, through our management or through legend recordings, they have, like, done promotions to try and get us on playlists and stuff. I'm not really sure how all those inner workings like, how that works, but I know that we have gotten on a few pretty large playlists and gotten, like, I don't even know, a few 100,000 streams on some songs by being added to these playlists. So there's something to it, I guess. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 22:26

I mean, that is a huge thing. Is that the playlist, because I feel like if the playlist has a bunch of followers, then people will just listen to it and you'll get the streams, whether they become a fan or not, you still get the streams, right. But, I mean, I think you do end up getting a lot of new people discovering your band and following you.

Casandra Carson: 22:42

Yeah, yeah. I have had a lot of people say, like, I was listening to, you know, my pretty reckless playlist, or in this moment, like, you guys popped up and I couldn't believe it. And, you know, so that's, like, really cool that we would even become, like, you know, a suggested artist for people. Like, that's just weird to think about,

Chuck Shute: 23:01

right? No. I mean, I do, because I see that you're, you're building up the followers on Spotify too. And you do you follow, like, the new music, because I know you're big. Miles Kennedy fan. I think he just released a new album.

Casandra Carson: 23:13

Yeah, I've listened to miles new album. I think it's really cool that he decided to do his own rock album, because normally his stuff is kind of like more on the full piece side of things. So it was cool hearing him go a little bit harder. Um, I've also really enjoyed listening to Dino jalusik new projects. Um, just his jalusik band had album release, I think it was earlier this year, and then whom Gods destroy anyway. He had a couple releases recently that were awesome. Honestly, though I'm not like, totally in the loop with new music, like I I listen to artists as people recommend them to me, but I'm not like, seeking it out typically. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 23:57

it is crazy. Like I heard of this guy Hardy, which I think they said, was country. But then I listened, I was like, Oh, this is actually more like rock. And then I saw he has like, 5 million followers. I'm like, How have I never heard of this guy? And he was like, he had, like, Oh, her two songs, but they were really good, like, really well written. And I was like, it's crazy how there's so many bands out now. There's so much good I think there's a lot of good music. I know people say there's nothing good. I think there's a lot of good stuff out there. Personally, yes,

Casandra Carson: 24:25

yes, there is a ton of good music actually. You know what? Now that I'm thinking about it. Um, unknown, really good music that's out right now. Uh, band called The mini color death out of Columbia, Missouri. Um, they are just a three piece, and it's like, very Prague, like, kind of King's X inspired, type metal slash rock, but amazing. Anyway, they just released an album, like last month, and I mean, sadly to say, kind of unknown, like some people in Missouri know about it, and we've taken. Them on tour with us once before. So they've got a little bit of a fan base, but they need more. That's

Chuck Shute: 25:08

cool. So that I'll have to check out all these recommendations. I love getting recommendations of bands, comedians and TV shows and movies all that. So I love all those things. So yeah, I'll have to check all that stuff out. That's great. And so see, that's what's so cool. I know people, I know artists hate Spotify and stuff, but I love it because I love discovering new music, and I just can't afford to buy, like, every CD back, like, back in the day, and now you can listen to anything, and then when you become a fan, I think you support the band by going to shows, buying merch and all those things,

Casandra Carson: 25:37

right? Exactly. Yeah, that's the big way to support or

Chuck Shute: 25:41

have them on your podcast, if you have a podcast like me, right, right?

Casandra Carson: 25:45

But it's pretty like, it's great to be able to be discovered on a platform like that, yeah. So it's kind of one of those just necessary evils, but I don't see it as, like, you know, I need to get streamed so that I can make a living. Like, I know that that's not the case. So right,

Chuck Shute: 26:02

the streaming helps bring in the fans That'll buy a ticket and buy a t shirt and all those, and then don't you guys also get you get some money for streams and some money for, like, YouTube and stuff. Because, I mean, that's how I get money off YouTube from my podcast. So I'm assuming that you guys probably get way more than I do, just for people are going to listen to songs more than podcasts.

Casandra Carson: 26:23

Maybe, I just don't know about it. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 26:27

it's so that's not the big piece of the pie there. But, right, yeah,

Casandra Carson: 26:32

yeah. But, uh, for sure, we just try to get people to come to live shows. You know, it's, that's where the magic happens anyway. That's what it's all about. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 26:41

I want to see you guys live. It sounds like it would be a really fun show, especially. And then you got the couple other bands, Scotty Austin and tantric. I don't think I've seen either one of them, either. So that would be,

Casandra Carson: 26:52

oh my gosh. Scotty Austin is a hoot. He is really like, I mean, literally, the definition of an entertainer. He is so funny, and he's a great performer. He's got a great voice. I mean, the music is there, but, like, he's just, he's really fun and tantric, we've toured with them multiple times. They're just solid musicians, and they've got great, great songs, like, they've got such a huge catalog of great music. So, yeah, didn't

Chuck Shute: 27:20

John korobi son play drums for them? I don't know if you don't think he does anymore, but he

Casandra Carson: 27:25

did for a short time. Yeah, he had, I think he's playing with rehab now. Oh, or maybe he left them recently. He was playing with rehab for a little

Chuck Shute: 27:36

while. Yeah, it's, it's cool that you know there's, there's so many opportunities, opportunities out there for all these other musicians and, and, you know, again, I think that's what's so great about music now, is it's not like, Oh, you have to be on this record label and, and then if you're not on a record label, your shit, it's like, everybody can just, you know, anybody can start a band, which I guess is good and bad, but you can grow it. And there's so many projects, so many concerts, like every weekend, I'm like, I have to choose who do I want to go see, because there's so many concerts going on.

Casandra Carson: 28:05

Oh yeah, for sure. I love it.

Chuck Shute: 28:07

Yeah. Are you guys? You're not going to tour with the George Lynch project, the Cassandra's crossing? Are you? No, that's

Casandra Carson: 28:14

not in the plans. I wish that it was. And you know, if I can twist George's arm hard enough, maybe we will. But would

Chuck Shute: 28:21

you do like a, like a one off, like, if you guys were both playing a festival or something, just do a few songs, right?

Casandra Carson: 28:28

So paralandra will be opening for lynch mob once in November later this year, and then we're doing a handful of dates between January and March with them as well. So I'm hoping that at some point, during some of these dates, like, we could at least work up a song like, yeah, yeah. I feel like it would be easy enough, but, you know, we'll see.

Chuck Shute: 28:53

And then you do you still have, is the life project? Is that still active, the one with stone sour guitarist, Josh Rand, yeah,

Casandra Carson: 29:00

actually, I leave Sunday to go up to Des Moines to record three more tracks for our next album. So, yes, very much. Still active. Um, we're probably looking at 2025, before we release anything. But yeah,

Chuck Shute: 29:18

does that one do live shows as well? Or is that only just recorded music,

Casandra Carson: 29:22

the plan is to do live shows. And of course, we did a tour with like Allison chains and Breaking Benjamin and Bush back in 2022 so like our whole intention was always to be a live band, but Josh had back surgery that he had to get that was pretty extensive. And so between then and now, he's just been recovering and getting back into the swing of things. Being able to play guitar was something that took a while to even get to so it's been kind of baby steps, but we're finally at the point where we're able to be like back in the studio. Josh has reported all. All of his guitar tracks at this point, and, yeah, hoping to get back on stage. You know, sometime relative Revit, relatively soon. Wow, I cannot talk.

Chuck Shute: 30:12

Well, you're so busy, that's awesome. Well, yeah, just stay busy and keep doing what you're doing. I'll try to come see that paraland paralandra show in November here, that would be fun. Otherwise a life project or one of the if you start a fourth band, maybe I'll go see that.

Casandra Carson: 30:30

Oh my gosh. If I start a fourth band, I will be dead, but I'll see you there.

Chuck Shute: 30:35

Okay, all right. Well, thanks so much for doing this. Anything else to promote?

Casandra Carson: 30:39

Oh my gosh, um, I don't know. I feel like we hit everything paralandras on the road and Cassandra crossing album out on october 25 like, Yep, perfect, yeah.

Chuck Shute: 30:51

I'll put the website in the show notes, and people can follow you guys on social media. Of course,

Casandra Carson: 30:55

we thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Thanks

Chuck Shute: 30:57

for coming back See you later. Yeah. Bye. Bye, you.