Landon Milbourn (Goodbye June)

Landon Milbourn is a singer-songwriter and frontman of the rock band Goodbye June.  The band’s latest album “Deep in the Trouble” comes out June 28th and is available for preorder now. We discuss the new album, upcoming shows, the band’s whiskey, life on the road and more!

00:00 - Intro
00:13 - New Music 
01:38 - New Record "Deep in the Trouble" 
04:36 - New Single & Video "The Hard Way" 
08:30 - Photo Shoot & Stage Moves 
11:35 - Vocal Techniques 
13:55 - Upcoming Shows & Badflower 
16:25 - Moon Fever 
17:40 - Upcoming Music Videos & Songs 
25:05 - Promoting Music 
28:40 - Three Chord Whiskey 
31:40 - Drugs & Alcohol & The Road 
34:00 - Sports & Injuries 
40:40 - Promotions 
41:45 - Outro 

Goodbye June website:
https://www.goodbyejune.com/

Chuck Shute linktree:
https://linktr.ee/chuck_shute

Transcript

Chuck Shute: 0:13

It's very exciting to I don't think I talked to you since you've even released another album. Since the last time we talked. Yeah. And that one did pretty well. Right?

Landon Milbourn: 0:22

Yeah. See what the night goes before? Before this one which deep in the trouble? Yeah, yeah, we loved it. We it was a great great record and a great I don't know, we tried something new on that record. Same Same with this one, which I believe you've been sent that record.

Chuck Shute: 0:43

I just got I've only got the single. Okay. Was it in the email? Maybe I didn't read closely. Honestly.

Landon Milbourn: 0:49

I'm not sure. But I might have gotten it but but if not, and you do have and you don't know it? Check it out?

Chuck Shute: 0:59

No, I definitely well, yeah. Cuz I was listening to the I listened to the single last night a couple of times and watch the video and stuff. And I was like, Oh, this is really good. And then I heard you guys talking about the the new songs, I was very intrigued. And then like you're saying like this, the single is kind of more old school. Goodbye, June, but some of the other songs are going to be more of a departure. Yeah,

Landon Milbourn: 1:21

you know, I think it's kind of you know, see where the night goes was kind of a little more very loosely, you know, cohesive as far as just stylistically. And I think, I think, you know, this records it's kind of all over the place again, like other records we've done in the past and you know, there's, there's something for everybody, but at the same time, I feel like it, it all has kind of a similar vibe to it as far as fitting the theme of the record. And so that's cool. And you know, I think we all kind of got, you know, different outlets and you know, put on this record, essentially between the three of us so,

Chuck Shute: 2:07

what is the theme is I know it's called deepen the trouble which I when I think I first heard you guys talking about I thought it was deep in the treble. I thought it was like a play on words and then I read it I was like, Oh no, it's just even the treble so

Landon Milbourn: 2:19

yeah, yeah, no, it's it's that's kind of the theme I mean, it's it's just kind of going through life situations then you know, it's not all it's not all like like negative per se but it's all definitely walk of life based stuff and you know, we've got plenty of that type of stuff to talk about so just you know, kind of worked then lead off with the hard way as far as putting the first song out it's pretty cool man. I mean, like it was the first song we did for the record actually that we recorded so

Chuck Shute: 2:58

yeah, what is that song? I mean, the lyrics are pretty self explanatory you know you learned the hard way but what are you referencing in that lyric?

Landon Milbourn: 3:07

I think that Psalms probably it gets like a good way to capture the entire album because it's very basic there is not much behind it I honestly we we started jamming that song like two or three years ago maybe longer at soundchecks and it was in no way shape or form the version that it is now mind you. I think it was just like me like singing lyrics like the hard way and saying stuff when we had some guitar riffs. I think it greatly transform and every once in a while like soundcheck songs as we call them or soundcheck pieces they'll kind of eventually evolve into the song if they stick around long enough so

Chuck Shute: 3:51

you don't you can't reveal what you're referencing when you say learn the hard way or is it just general there's a lot of things

Landon Milbourn: 3:58

I think that song best like I said there's there's nothing behind it and I think it best describes the entire album like in a broader on like a broader picture. I think it best describes the entire album which there's a lot to dive into in that but I mean yeah, it's a deep it's a deep record it's a it's very sight we've never done a lot of the stuff that we've we did on this new record coming out so we're excited for everybody to hear it for sure.

Chuck Shute: 4:32

Yeah, well you the the hard way it's out the videos out. I thought it was interesting the video, I mean such a kick ass song. It's so it's like a bluesy hard rock very reminiscent to some of your other hard rock and songs like that. And if people haven't listened to your band at all, it's definitely they could start there. I feel like that's a great song to start with. But I noticed in the video you have an American flag. Now is that that's like kind of controversial right now like is that ironic in a way or Is that like pro America? Because I feel like right now it's very mainstream to hate America. And it's almost like punk rock if you like America, whereas it used to be the opposite. I don't know what it. Is that just a coincidence, you have American flag in the background.

Landon Milbourn: 5:13

That's Tyler's garage. Honestly, a lot of that stuff was just there. And we kind of set up a few other things, but honestly, you'd have to ask him that question. Okay, yeah. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 5:29

That one for ya. Video, because like, you guys are like, you're playing and then I don't know, like, that just was the director's idea to just have the people kind of, there's like switching positions where sometimes they're playing an instrument, and sometimes they're not, but the song is still going, but they're like, they're not playing their instrument.

Landon Milbourn: 5:47

Whoa, yeah, that was all on purpose. I mean, cuz I mean, us three, right, a lot of the music and the lyrics and everything, but live, we play with the full band, right? So we wanted to just record we wanted to capture a music video of how we write together. And that was a kind of a good way to do it, like me and Brando switch back and forth from the kid or, you know, Tyler, hop on base, or blah, blah, blah. And so we just kind of wanted to make a video like that. And it wasn't really, we wanted it to have that live performance aspect. But at the same time, not be so focused on it, that it had to be perfect. And, you know, basically from our, from our head, like our viewpoint, it was it was basically like, this is like a weird way to show how goodbye God, like, writes a song or jams out or like, you know, gets ready for the next record or whatever. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 6:44

is it now is it pretty cheap to film a video like that? Because you guys are doing this all by yourself? Right? You've cut ties with the label. And that's by choice, because you want to do it yourself. Because then obviously, you can get more of the profits or whatever, right. But I

Landon Milbourn: 6:59

think you know, I think it just it depends on every band. situation, obviously, I think we just wanted to kind of go for it and see what happened. And luckily, videos, I will say if you know the right people, and you have great friends like we do, you know, it is it is something that you can pull off. Especially comparative to like 1520 years ago. Oh, yeah, ever. It's so

Chuck Shute: 7:25

different now. Because back in the 80s and 90s, it would cost so much money to make a music

Landon Milbourn: 7:29

video, and then have like million dollar budgets or bigger for music videos. What's that, that people would have? Like, like a million plus, you know, music video budgets. That's

Chuck Shute: 7:40

crazy. No, but But I'm saying like the camerawork and stuff like you can't tell like we're in the 80s and 90s. If it was a low budget, music video, you could look like somebody just had a camcorder, you know, and set it up. Whereas your video, I mean, yeah, you don't have a lot of special effects or anything, but like the camera, I mean, it looks it's total HD, it looks completely professional. It looks like a totally professional video that I have, you know, that would have cost 1000s and 1000s of dollars, you know?

Landon Milbourn: 8:07

Well, I mean, the director who did that, you know, he had a number one active rock song that he did music videos for. He's with the bad flower camp. The Rock Band bad flower.

Chuck Shute: 8:18

Joe right, Joe, honey. anjeer No, that's sorry. That's your photographer.

Landon Milbourn: 8:23

Yeah. Now this guy's he's with bat flower, that he's in there that kind of group and shot several music videos. So he's, he is a pro. So he did a great job. Jordan, shout out to you, buddy. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 8:36

so he got him from bad phone. And then sorry, Joseph hailstorm, and he did the

Landon Milbourn: 8:40

he did he did a photoshoot for us one day and we ended up using it for the album cover. So it worked out really nice. Because he

Chuck Shute: 8:46

does like candid shots and which is better for you guys than doing like the stage like poses and stuff that

Landon Milbourn: 8:54

yeah, you know, it's somebody who like, you know, you know, and makes it comfortable as opposed to like stage like, kind of like you say, like, it's not, it's not so like, Hey, you ready to get your picture taken? You know, it's more just be you and hang out and we'll see what we come up with. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 9:16

but isn't there some of that in music like when you go on stage? Do you have to practice out your stage moves and try to do things that show the crowd or you just feel the music and then that stuff just comes naturally so it doesn't feel phony?

Landon Milbourn: 9:29

Oh man, I'm like, I'm the worst choreography and dancing. Just horrible rhythm in my body. So I don't really practice anything. I just go out there and kind of do it. I think if I practice, like stage stuff outside of like, you know, like actually practicing the songs and stuff. I'd probably end up making myself look like a really really big idiot because I probably end up falling or something. I don't know. Oh, which I've done before without even trying. So, really? Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 10:05

So I've never because I've never seen you guys live I don't think you've been Arizona at least in a while. And stuff or what?

Landon Milbourn: 10:13

It's been a minute since we've been there. So I think it's been shoot the last time we were there is probably two so on. And that was probably 28. Team. Okay,

Chuck Shute: 10:25

yeah, I don't think I discovered you guys here. But so when you're on stage, are you running around? Are you feeling the crowd? Are you just are you one of those more just like stand in place kind of guys and saying,

Landon Milbourn: 10:34

God chill for the most part, unless I kind of if I feel it, and then I'll kind of, you know, take off like tambourine and move around or whatever. But for the most part, I stay, I stay in my little bubble. I'm not too crazy.

Chuck Shute: 10:49

Does it change if you've had some substances? Perhaps if you've got a few some of the record whiskey that you guys have or whatever that does that make a difference?

Landon Milbourn: 10:59

Excellent burden, though. No, I mean, I think I kind of still just stay in my zone, like in my area. Because I, you know, I have to have to hit a lot of high notes. And if I start running around acting crazy, you know, that's just going to deplete those. Those and make me look, make them look bad. If I'm starting to hit flatten out, so I can't get too crazy, unfortunately. But after the show, you can always catch me run around, you know, sneaking a cigarette or two. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 11:33

So do you have like little routine and little tricks for your voice to keep it in shape and to be able to hit those notes on stage?

Landon Milbourn: 11:42

Man, I swear by just warm it up. Like even if it's 20 minutes before a show, just warm up and climb, climb the chain of command. If you're a vocalist, you kind of know what that means as far as like getting there. But and, yeah, as long as you do that, and then try to avoid dairy. It'll be fine. A lot of people swear by vocal warm downs after the show. And honestly, I've done that like two times in my entire career. So I can't really tell you if it works or not, because I've never really been good at remembering to do it. Typically, my vocal warm downs like a shot of whiskey and a cigarette or something. That's horrible. All right, I need to I need to try and do the vocal warm down. So

Chuck Shute: 12:29

yeah. Do you drink anything before? Because like I had the singer Buckcherry on and he said that he doesn't he'll drink water before. But he does not drink I think it was was the rule. I know. He doesn't drink during the show, which I thought was crazy. Because I thought between songs are between set like, you know, between a couple songs, you'd want to have something to drink if you especially if you're playing for like an hour, but he's like, No, I don't drink anything.

Landon Milbourn: 12:53

You know, I I try to keep it to like, just a few onstage. And that's about it. I mean, I don't get too crazy. You know, a few years ago is a different story when we were younger,

Chuck Shute: 13:08

but like even water because that's why I'm saying the Buckcherry guy. He's like you want otter?

Landon Milbourn: 13:13

Oh no, I'll definitely drink water. I'll always have water always have water. And typically some some bourbon or something, you know, up there if I need it, you know, for the vocals or whatever. Because I mean, if you're drinking, especially guitar type music if you're like, trying to you know, we're even, like trying to get drunk and all playing it Just Sweats right out of you. So nothing really matter.

Chuck Shute: 13:43

Gotcha. Yeah,

Landon Milbourn: 13:45

but typically, it's like throat related, like, you know if I want to like cut my throat a little bit or whatever.

Chuck Shute: 13:51

That's cool. Do you guys have some shows lined up? I think with Moon Fever, right? Are you going to be adding more with them or other shows? Gonna be like five shows booked or something? Yeah,

Landon Milbourn: 14:03

I think I think we've got let's see. It's like 123456789 shows. May 2 to the 17th kind of hidden all over the Southie like Texas, Memphis, Knoxville, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Ohio, St. Louis, Houston, Dallas, Baton Rouge, Louisiana Bowser city. And then yeah, I think I think we're actually already working on some more dates and stuff that we're going to be doing like starting in late June, and then moving on from there. So that could be a collaboration of stuff like Steven like a another tour to promote the album, but along with maybe some direct support stuff. So we'll see. Okay,

Chuck Shute: 14:47

anything. Another collaboration with bad flower because I thought I heard somebody saying that. The singer Joey's from bad florist playing bass for you or something.

Landon Milbourn: 14:57

Joey when he's not singer, he's the lead guitarist. And he is playing bass with us. Yeah. He's going to be on this tour coming up.

Chuck Shute: 15:06

That's just just for like a few shows just to fill in or yeah, he's

Landon Milbourn: 15:12

just filling in for us, man. And I we're stoked to have him. He's a great friend of ours. He lives here on the, on the east side of Nashville. We're family. So it worked out, man. He receives free. They aren't doing studio stuff right now and they're not touring. And he was happy to do it. So yeah,

Chuck Shute: 15:33

I think he popped it on. I was rewatching our old interview from like three years ago, or maybe was four years ago. But he I remember he like popped in. He was like, right next to you. It was so weird. I was like, what? He's just hanging out with you.

Landon Milbourn: 15:42

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because we were at the we were at the forum out there, I think. Okay. Yeah, that's right. It was New Year's right.

Chuck Shute: 15:53

I think so. Yeah. It was a long chat. I was

Landon Milbourn: 15:56

I was out there. I was actually, that was the lead singer of bad flower and joing. That was actually the whole band name. Yeah. Those guys that night. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, they're they're good dudes, man. Yeah, we're excited to have Joey on board. It's gonna be it'd be fun. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 16:16

That's awesome. So the one you have you have dates set up with Moon Fever. What's going on with them? Because like, I know, I had Cody on he was their singer, but now they've got a new singer. So what happened with all that? Like, are you What do you think of the new singers? He pretty good. Man.

Landon Milbourn: 16:34

I'd be lying to you and find if I knew I yeah, I don't know. I don't I you know what I just found out about those guys a few months ago, and I love their stuff. And I don't know in depth. Yeah, I don't I don't know

Chuck Shute: 16:51

that some of the new stuff because I just I was, I had Cody on. I loved that first or first or second out whatever the one would like cocaine. Oh, they handled these really bad songs. And they had the producer. He produced the band here called the Black moods. And he produces some other kind of more indie bands. But I think I found them through him. Because I'm a fan of his production work. And I was like, Wow, this band is amazing. I thought that was so cool. But then I was so sad that Cody left because I felt like Cody was a huge part of it. So yeah, yeah, honestly,

Landon Milbourn: 17:23

I'm not sure that's makes me look older. No,

Chuck Shute: 17:27

no, no, I mean that stuff. It's very common that the stuff you guys have so many things going on. Trying to get a record probably I haven't even looked at touring yet. I mean, that's not for a while you probably just trying to promote this album, right? Yeah,

Landon Milbourn: 17:41

just stay busy man. Honestly, it feels like we've been shooting music videos, like every weekend.

Chuck Shute: 17:48

Do you do for every song or

Landon Milbourn: 17:51

not every song just here lately? We've been doubling up I think I think probably when it's all said and done. We'll have I think five hopefully. So we actually have four in the bag right now, including Hardway, which is already out but uh, I think we're going to try and get one more in there. From one more sock, so we'll see. I'm hoping

Chuck Shute: 18:12

Yeah, so let's talk about some of the songs on the record because I just heard some rumblings about like what they are like very different like there's a song that's an acoustic guitar song that sounds like was described as a Metallica nothing else matters type of song. sounds intriguing.

Landon Milbourn: 18:31

It's a song called pile of bones, actually. And it's a very cool dark song. And Brando came up with a really cool guitar intro and Tyler as well. And it's got it's got its own vibe. For sure. It's yeah, it's like Southern, you know? Yeah. Nothing else matters, mate. Something I don't know. I don't know. But it's a very cool so we actually just showed a video for that two weeks ago. And it's a really I guess the best way I could say this without giving anything away. It's a very deep video. It's very, very, very deep video. And so yeah, I think people are really going to I think don't like it in a weird way. I think they'll really I think they'll really enjoy it. So

Chuck Shute: 19:28

nice. So I look forward to that's a cool title, pile of bones. And then there was a song was, I think was this one called good love. And that was like a Tom Petty kind of Roy Orbison joyous upbeat song. I was like, that sounds intriguing, too. Yeah,

Landon Milbourn: 19:41

I think so. Man. I think it's very it's like Roy Orbison, you know, meet us meet the killers. I don't know really, honestly, the best way to describe it. It's definitely out of our wheelhouse. I'll tell you that, but it works at all and I think I was I told the guys like, after I got to do my vocals for that trick, I was like, that's the most fun I've ever had ever singing. Like, just from a pure, like, joyous, I'm having a good time in the studio like vocally. Because a lot of times when you're in, you know, like in the vocal booth or like singing, like, you're just focusing on every note, like making sure that you know, you're doing your job, obviously. But at that time, I was just like, I don't care what I sound like, just go for it, if I'm flat, I'll do another take, you know, whatever. But it was a lot of fun. And that song is a lot of fun. And it's it's definitely out of our wheelhouse a little bit, but at the same time, it's it's in our wheelhouse. So yeah,

Chuck Shute: 20:48

I think that's cool when bands evolve. I know, because I'm Big Guns and Roses fan. And I love Appetite for Destruction. But I also really love the user illusions, albums, which are a huge departure, but I feel like the band grew. And so I feel like if you, I mean, there's nothing wrong with going the ACDC route to right, where it's just like, every album kind of sounds like the same album,

Landon Milbourn: 21:07

right? Yeah. No, I think I think, you know, for me, this this record, it's kind of what we've always done in the past, more or less, that's just, you know, more, more put together, because we're older and better musicians really. And we're able to, we've always been huge Beatles fans and bands that can kind of do everything, you know, and kind of hit every category. And so I think deep down, that's what we've always kind of wanted to do, because all three of us have different likes as well. And so trying to showcase that, and do it right, it's tough, but I think this record, you know, it all fits the vibe, and it's all there. And, you know, it's I think people are really gonna like it, there's really, it's a really proud of it, I think. I think there's more work that has been put into this record than probably any other record. So I think we're all very, very proud of it. And hope everybody out there that hears it loves it, you know, honestly, so,

Chuck Shute: 22:16

yeah, when you say so Beatles, are you saying some of you do you guys switch instruments and trade off vocals and things like that?

Landon Milbourn: 22:23

Yeah. Not not that quiet, like vocals and stuff. I mean, it's instrumentally in the studio, and then even sometimes translated this stage, it can kind of be a little, you know, this or that, especially in the studio, it can be you know, all bets are off. Anybody can do anything type thing. Live, it gets a little more syncopated, you know, so it's the, you know, it doesn't drag the show down at all, or anything like that. But yeah, I mean, if I, if I fill a piano part in the studio, I'll go give it a shot, you know, and if it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't, but at least, you know, you have the space to do that. And to kind of mess around with it. Because we chase down ideas in the past that took us three hours, and we never even kept what we were chasing down or or we've put some down real quick and we all you know, or somebody thought it was goofy and we put it down and everybody loved it. You know, it took a minute to put down so it's like, you never know what's going to happen. So yeah,

Chuck Shute: 23:24

that was one of the songs I think I heard you guys talking about was a old school country song. That sounds intriguing. Also, like you will style for that at all. Like you do, like a country twang kind of voice. Yeah.

Landon Milbourn: 23:41

I don't know. I don't know if there's I wouldn't call it country, but I would call it just stripped down acoustic. Okay. Just normal us. I mean, people have always called us Southern rock, country rock, whatever, our whole career. So it's like, you know, it's, it's nothing new, really, for us. But I mean, there is a lot of there is a lot of focus on on, like, my lower register of singing on this record, I would say, I would say I definitely got down lower than I normally would. So I guess you could say that's a little more country, I guess. But it's cool, man. It's fun, you know, doing things different. And in that regard. Yeah, it definitely was a little bit a little bit more. You know, something we haven't done before. Really? So that's

Chuck Shute: 24:33

cool. Is that which one is the next single? Or can you say?

Landon Milbourn: 24:37

Yeah, I can say the next one we put now it's called ridin through so like, we got a music video for that one as well. And it's another upbeat rock and roll great song a completely different vibe than the hard way and it's, I think people are really gonna like and it keeps you moving you know? So, yeah,

Chuck Shute: 25:01

how do you know you try to get the songs on radio? I know radio is not as big a thing, but it's still something so you try radio and then I know the bigger thing is the Spotify playlist, you are you attempting to get the music placed on either of those two things. Always,

Landon Milbourn: 25:17

always, we, we work with a company who helps us in every single type of digital outlet possible, whether it's, you know, stuff like that, or sinks or licensing stuff, you know, anything like that. So you know, that stuff, that stuff is really important. And radio unless you're talking like indie or like college radio, I mean, active rock radio, is basically classic rock radio for the most part. So I mean, I haven't really heard any bands remotely close to us on like, current rock radio for a long time. So it's kind of No, I guess it just depends on if they want to play it, we're happy to be on there. Because I love I love listening on the radio, but

Chuck Shute: 26:14

Well, you have other songs that have been on rock radio. I mean, how did you get this on the record company did because I don't understand music gets played on the radio anymore? I mean, isn't it all like you kind of have to like know, somebody or the record company has to like, pay to get the song played? I don't really understand how it works. Yeah, I

Landon Milbourn: 26:33

mean, I there's all kinds of metrics. And honestly, I would be lying to you if I told you I knew how exactly how it worked today. I'm not really sure. It's all it's all a lot I know that it's definitely pay to play is a thing.

Chuck Shute: 26:48

Yeah. You have the you have a company that's taking care of all that with the licensing. So with that also include stuff because I know you have that. I mean, that's how I found you guys was the bud light commercial. And then you were in like ESPN and video games and all this, you know, that stuff is is another huge part of recording music now, is that something that we're working on? as well? Yeah,

Landon Milbourn: 27:09

I think all things everything's on the table. I mean, everything, everything gets looked at and whatever we can get, we can get them will take. So it's just kind of Castleman that out there and see what happens, you know, yeah,

Chuck Shute: 27:25

it's just so it's such a flooded market. There's so many bands and there's so much music, and people always say like, oh, there's no good music anymore. And I'm like, No, there's a lot you just have to wade through all the other crap. Yeah, good band like yourself. And that flower and hailstorm and there's tons of great stuff out there lots of good but there's so much like I mean, even with the those Rock Charts like cuz I'll go through okay, this is the top 30 songs on radio. Let me go through okay. And some of them are just terrible and you gotta wait. Okay. Oh, wow, that one's really good. You know so I just seen about those playlists and things is trying to fight you steal and maybe it's just also my personal tastes so I don't know but I love the new song that you guys have. So I'm excited for more.

Landon Milbourn: 28:06

Thank you man. We're excited to get it out there and and to get you want to get you a bottle of our bourbon and if you partake of course,

Chuck Shute: 28:18

yeah, I mean I don't right now because I'm doing this like 75 day thing where I don't have alcohol. I don't have a cheat me. I'm like really trying to get in shape. But after that, then I usually I will take a little bit here and there. It'd be really a great way to celebrate ending this 75 days a hell a lot. I was like, a nice glass of whiskey. That sounds amazing. Absolutely, man. Yeah. How did that tell me about that? how that came about? It's because I saw the bottle. It's called Three chord whiskey. And it was made specially for you guys but I mean, obviously you you don't own the distillery yourself. No

Unknown: 28:53

three three chord

Landon Milbourn: 28:56

has been around for a while and Neil Gerardo. Great, great guy. Excellent bourbon. Master connoisseur. He's married to Pat Benatar, you know, hit me with your best shot and she's an amazing artist. Classic Rock. And yeah, I think honestly, I think it was just kind of random. I think some honestly, I don't remember exactly. I know somebody that I believe it was with their company came across our song, three chords. And it just kind of sparked a conversation between our camp and their camp. Because they were looking to do like artists, you know, Bourbon or whatever. Artists curated bourbon, I guess you'd say. And so it was just kind of perfect timing. Perfect fit that you know ours. Long in their company at the same name and, and it worked out and we started talking to him and, and had several conversations with them honestly. And we were sent several different batches of different blends and it was a long process honestly, to choose what we chose for our blend, we ended up kind of following Neil's advice with that, but it's actually it's a really good if you're if you're a bourbon drinker or a cigar smoker, it's great, man. I mean, it's it really is up there with a lot of, you know, some of my favorites anyways, so

Chuck Shute: 30:39

can you can you describe that you have like, you know, like the nutty aroma and the aftertaste. Do you have those kind of descriptions? Or yeah, it's,

Landon Milbourn: 30:47

it hits you harsh on the front end. And then that backends kind of got a little bit of that cherry nutty, I don't even know how to describe it. But it's definitely got kind of like that's a little bit sweet overtone at the end, but not too sweet. But I will say I did enjoy. I enjoyed it a lot with with the cigar after we played bourbon and beyond last year. So that was a lot of fun.

Chuck Shute: 31:18

So you just drink it straight? Or do you put it on the rocks or mix it with anything? Or? I

Landon Milbourn: 31:23

typically will do like one ice cube.

Chuck Shute: 31:28

giant ice cubes. Those are the best.

Landon Milbourn: 31:30

Yeah, I'll do I'll do typically one of those. If I have that or two regular if I don't, then yeah, that's the way to go. For sure.

Chuck Shute: 31:38

It's gotta be hard though. Being a rock band, like I just feel like it would be it'd be dangerous for me, because I would want to party I'd want a party every night. I feel like everyone's having a good time everyone's drinking. And you're on stage. And the energy's like, through the roof. I mean, do you have to kind of like, put yourself on probation a little bit like or do you just go, I'm doing a show. I'm gonna have fun.

Landon Milbourn: 32:00

I think once you get out to or get to a rhythm, you know, having a few drinks, every show is fine. Because we have obviously days off in between shows and stuff. As long as you don't get crazy and lose yourself. You can make it manageable. But yeah, I mean, it's obviously a it can be something that a lot of people struggle with. So as we've all seen in the past, so yeah,

Chuck Shute: 32:25

like that downward spiral where, you know, it's not just the drinking, and people get into the pills. And that's where it gets like crazy to me. Like, I'm scared of all that. I mean, even if I ever have like a surgery or anything, I'm like, I don't know if I even want the pain pills. I've just seen so many stories and documentaries on people taking a pain pill and then they get hooked and then they become like a fiend. It's scary.

Landon Milbourn: 32:45

Yeah. Well, I mean, that can happen anywhere you shoot. I mean, yeah. So many people that I've either known or friends of friends or whatever, that they you know, they have a work accident or something or a car wreck and they get on pills, and then you know, they're stuck. So yeah, that's, that's, that's great. But yeah, as far as like, being on the road and stuff, it's pretty manageable once once you get get your get your schedule and your system lined up and keep yourself in check, and you're good to go.

Chuck Shute: 33:17

It's gotta be so much easier being on the road now, then, like in the 80s and stuff, like because now everyone has a phone and tablets and all this stuff. And you can I mean, you can get like I mean, you got a baseball hat there so you could get like the MLB package and you could watch every game on your phone. You could if you guys have the betting apps down there, but oh God, those are so fun. You don't need to throw 10 bucks on a game you can bet on every game makes it more interesting. It's like there's so much more stuff to do to overcome the boredom of touring.

Landon Milbourn: 33:46

Absolutely 100% Yeah, I think that's hilarious you say betting apps are our bass player is like the kingdoms that really

Chuck Shute: 33:58

is it legal in Nashville in Tennessee? I don't I can't remember it is

Landon Milbourn: 34:01

now I think it's been legal for like maybe a year or a little longer. Okay. Yeah, so yeah, we've got that here for sure. I stay away from it man. I am a I am not good with gambling. So really? I mean honestly when I go to casinos I'm hit and miss like sometimes I'll win huge and and other times I'll lose you know a little bit I never lose a lot. I've definitely won I've won more than I've lost I will say that

Chuck Shute: 34:27

yeah, I mean that's a cool thing about the sports thing I was like I said like you can do like a $10 bet on a game and so $10 will last you whatever three hours however long the game is Yeah, and I mean you if you really wanted to be you could bet $1 If you really wanted to be and you can do like a long shot dollar bet that wins 100 You know something like crazy like that. It's it's fun. Makes Yeah, it

Landon Milbourn: 34:48

makes Yeah, it makes it way more interesting, especially if your team you know like sucks. Like your personal favorite sports team or whatever well then, then you can get you know, React Native or to get money on it?

Chuck Shute: 35:02

Is that your team is the angels. No

Landon Milbourn: 35:04

Atlanta, Atlanta. Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah, I was born. Actually, the

Chuck Shute: 35:10

Braves are really good this year, too.

Landon Milbourn: 35:14

We'll see man. We'll see the doctors are too. So.

Chuck Shute: 35:18

Yeah, baseball is tough because like, there's so many games that starts out like, oh, wow, my team's like really good or my team is really bad then. It's a totally different ballgame. No pun intended by October. It's like totally different.

Landon Milbourn: 35:30

Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's interesting. They're talking. There's been talks about a major league team coming to Nashville. So we'll see if that happens.

Chuck Shute: 35:39

Wow. So then would you switch in? Would you be a fan of that team? Or would you root for both?

Landon Milbourn: 35:44

They would be my number two team for sure. I'm always gonna be a bridge fan. So yeah, yeah, you can't can't jump jump. Jump the wagons, I guess. Is that the right yeah,

Chuck Shute: 35:57

I don't know. I agree. Yeah. Cuz like I'm from Seattle, but I have, like a big baseball fan, but I'm a mariners fan. But now I live in Arizona. I'm like, Well, I'm gonna root for the Diamondbacks, too. I feel like it's easy to root for two baseball teams. And it's just like something to do, like watch it, you know, bet on it. Go to games and stuff. But yeah, if the mariners, you know, I mean, that'd be still be my number one. Like if they're playing each other. I'm gonna try to root for the Mariners and hope that they beat them. But yeah, it's fun to like, I think it's just fun to watch sports like basketball, football, that stuff. It's like, just a good way to keep past the time. You know, especially I would imagine being on tour. There's a lot of downtime.

Landon Milbourn: 36:35

Yeah, there is a to your point, I think fine. Like I've never liked the Phillies, because they always they beat up on the Braves a bunch over the years. But if I had to move to Philly, I probably wouldn't start watching Phillies games. Unfortunately, you know, it's just because it's, you know, you live somewhere and you're around it. And it's like, might as well watch it. You know?

Chuck Shute: 36:58

The only thing I can't do that was like, I'm such a loyal Seahawks fan. Like I can't root for the Cardinals. I mean, I would if like it were like out of the playoffs or something in the Cardinals are in like when the cartels went to the Super Bowl. A long time ago, the Seahawks were done. It was like the Cardinals and Steelers. I was like, Well, I guess I'll root for the Cardinals. I mean, I don't have any ties to the Steelers or whatever. But yeah, I don't know. Sports are funny. It's yeah.

Landon Milbourn: 37:22

Definitely. That everybody reacts differently to sometimes. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 37:28

I did some rare that a lot of musicians do not do not care about sports at all though. There's a lot of the whenever I asked like, Oh, you're from the city, are you a fan of like a lot of musicians like oh, I don't watch sports like people that a lot of people that were in the music, didn't get into sports for some reason.

Landon Milbourn: 37:43

I couldn't help it, man. I loved it ever since I was a kid. Like I loved every sport. Like got the video games, you know, played the sports even though it wasn't that good. But yeah, again, there's a reason why I do music. But definitely, like, all have it, you know, right?

Chuck Shute: 38:01

Well, I think he says, I think we talked about that last time. I like you grew up in the South, and like the Pentecostal thing. And so like you couldn't, there was like, certain things that you weren't allowed to do, but I'm assuming sports was like that was okay.

Landon Milbourn: 38:15

Yeah, well, yeah. If we had access to it, you know, like basketball. I played basketball when I was a kid. And I think I played little league, like one year baseball. But yeah, that was that was kind of acceptable. So, you play as long as your long pants were short. Do you

Chuck Shute: 38:36

play any sports now or you do any exercise or anything?

Landon Milbourn: 38:40

I mean, I'll exercise and do stuff out playing sports now. I broke my ankle like four years ago. And so that really like kind of changed my whole workout. Sports.

Chuck Shute: 38:56

How did you do it? Playing

Landon Milbourn: 38:58

did play of the game. 500 You know, like with a football or whatever. It was with a Frisbee. And we're playing and I went to grab it and came down and just we were in the street. I should have known better but you know, yeah,

Chuck Shute: 39:15

shit. Like knock on wood. I gotta find wood to knock I've never broken a bone. I hope I never have to go through it sounds awful. Yeah, man. Oh, I've no I don't know how I avoided it. I feel like everyone I know. brokes like as kids especially, you know, you're just doing stupid stuff. You break your arm this kid you know, you always have the cast and you sign your friends cast, you know, in high school, middle school elementary, but somehow I didn't ever break a bone. It's a miracle.

Landon Milbourn: 39:43

Yeah, I always I was always hurting something not necessarily breaking bones but getting black eyes randomly or, you know, a lot of head injuries. You know? This is where I come up with all these crazy lyric ideas.

Chuck Shute: 39:59

Is there something to that though? I think wasn't it like Roseanne The comedian, she got in a car wreck and she hurt her, she hit her head. And like they said she was never the same since then. But that's how she became such a good comedian. Because like, I think it turned off her filter or whatever. And so she just said all these crazy things, and people were like, Oh, that's really funny. Like, yeah, I think if she didn't have that accident, she would have been too scared to do that. Right?

Landon Milbourn: 40:25

Yeah, yeah, who knows? But yeah, it's good, man. I'm glad you haven't broken any bones. So let's keep that keep that happening.

Chuck Shute: 40:34

Me too. Let's keep that streak. The new album comes out. June 28. And the singles The first singles out now the second singles coming out soon, I'm assuming.

Landon Milbourn: 40:45

Yeah. And the next few weeks, we'll have it out along with the music video. And I think the plan is to put like, three to four singles out before the album comes out. So there'll be a few you know, there'll be a few more that people can sample and preview before the full album comes out.

Chuck Shute: 41:00

Okay, and then hopefully, more tour dates to be added. Hopefully, you come through Phoenix, although I don't wish you to come here in the summer because it's it's how but you know, did you tell me about coming to Flagstaff? You should come to Flagstaff in the summer. That's it's really great.

Landon Milbourn: 41:15

Thank you Miss Flagstaff. Yeah, I would love I don't care what time of year it is. I want to get out west. So hopefully we see you sooner rather than later.

Chuck Shute: 41:25

Sounds good. Yeah, man. All right. Well, thanks so much for doing this and I'll get this episode up in a

Landon Milbourn: 41:30

bit. Hey, it was my pleasure. It's good to talk to you again, man.

Unknown: 41:34

Yeah, you to stay in touch. Hey, good luck with the cleaning no drink and brother. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 41:40

Thank you. I'm gonna need it. I've made it haven't given bro. Alright. See ya.