Chuck Shute Podcast

Diva Satanica (Nervosa, Bloodhunter)

August 18, 2021 Diva Satanica Season 3 Episode 166
Chuck Shute Podcast
Diva Satanica (Nervosa, Bloodhunter)
Show Notes Transcript

Episode 166 - Diva Satanica!!!  Diva is the lead singer or two great metal bands- Nervosa and Bloodhunter.  She grew up in Galicia, which is in Spain and has appeared on the Spanish version of The Voice which is called "La Voz."  She is a great example of "don't just a book by it's cover" because most people would not expect  her to be able to sing the way she does, but she is a phenomenal vocalist and front woman.  Learn all about her story and her bands in this episode! 

00:00 - Intro
01:45 - Growing Up in Galacia 
05:40 - Living in Madrid
08:10 - Growing Up Around Music 
09:42 - Bon Jovi & Heavy Metal 
12:02 - Learning How to Sing 
13:24 - Appearing on "La Voz" TV Show 
16:35 - Bands in Spain & Bloodhunter
19:41 - Working Through Doubts 
21:50 - Singing Style & Collaboration w/ Mantis
23:36 - Translating Emotions in to Music 
25:25 - Favorite Bloodhunter Song 
26:32 - Cover Of Helloween Song with Leo Jimenez 
28:25 - Playing in Rough Conditions 
29:50 - Joining Nervosa 
32:30 - Bloodhunter Vs Nervosa 
34:00 - Perpetual Chaos Album 
36:34 - Working with Men Vs Women 
37:50 - Inspiring Fans with Music 
39:13 - Becoming More Independent 
40:40 - Side Job & Nervosa Shows 
44:15 - Metal Against Coronavirus 
45:45 - Wrap Up 

Nervosa website:
https://www.nervosaofficial.com

Bloodhunter website:
http://www.bloodhunter.net

Metal Against Coronavirus - Purchase song to donate: 
https://metalagainstcoronavirus.bandcamp.com/track/loss?fbclid=IwAR2xl1-7pS6ZTuzFS-0EZlPfJ_CrjWLTA5C9rrJEJ871qQaBSaWw-RJikK0

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Chuck Shute:

Welcome to the show, it's good to be back. I've been gone. I was traveling across across the country, I was at this rock and pod event in Nashville for rock music podcasters. And if you're listening to this episode, then obviously enjoy rock music podcast. So definitely something to consider for next year. And I have some thoughts on this event in my podcast, but I'll save those for the end of the show. So let's just get right to it and talk about our guest today. diva say tanika she's an amazing woman, she sings for two different bands blood Hunter is her first band and she is still with them. But she also recently joined the band new vjosa. And these bands are heavy and there aren't many women out there who can sing like she does. So I think she's an inspiration not only to women who want to sing like her, but also to anyone who wants to do something outside of the box and what is expected of them. It's kinda like Rudy from Notre Dame remember that dude is a tiny little guy. But you know, through hard work and dedication, he joined the Notre Dame football team. So lots of cool stuff stories like that, that I love. And I think diva is just a really good person. She's great at what she does. And I really enjoyed this chat. I became more of a fan after chatting with her. And I think you will too. Check it out. Welcome diva. Say tanika to the chuck shoe podcast. How you doing? Fine. Thank you so much for having me. So yeah. Oh, really? It's your it's an honor for you. Well, it's an honor to have you absolutely. Absolutely. I've done a lot of research and found out a lot about you. So before we obviously want to talk about the music. But before we get into the music, Can I Can we talk about where you're from, because that like fascinates me almost as much as the music. So it's how do I say it is Galicia?

Diva Satanica:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Born in the northwest of Spain, you know, hearing has been we have like 17 different regions. And one of them it's very difficult. Very different from the others. We even speak different languages. Yeah. Between each other. Yeah, so that's pretty cool. I am. I was born in a place that it was like, the land of the Celtics. You know, it's like, land of magic of witches. Really like that? Yeah.

Chuck Shute:

Oh, you're gonna tell me about that land? So is that still? Is that stuff still going on? Or is that just like in the history you're saying?

Unknown:

Yeah, yeah. And popular culture, you know, and stuff like that people? Like, do people talking about this kind of secrets and occultism?

Chuck Shute:

Really so like, if I go there I can can I go to like a witch store or something and get like a ritual or something like that? Or is this something that's all like underground

Unknown:

stores? No, like a stores it's much more like small houses in the countryside where people just tell you about the traditions. Okay, like

Chuck Shute:

that. Yeah, because I was just in New Orleans. I don't know if you're familiar with that in Louisiana. And that's like, we're Voodoo is from I was just really fascinated by I'm always fascinated by the culture of anywhere I go or any other place in the world. So I was really fascinated with the Voodoo stuff. And so I was trying to find these Voodoo shops and stuff and there's just not a lot of, of going on, right? I mean, they sell like the, you know, the kitschy, touristy stuff, but I wanted like the real legit like guy with, you know, like the face painted and the bone in his head stuff. Like, I just wanted to see it. It's so fascinating to me. But yeah, so yeah, so that um, yeah, it's it's a it's a different language where you're from galatian. Is that what it's called? Yeah, yeah. So you speak an amazing research. Oh, we haven't even touched the surface. I just thought it was interesting, because I just thought you were from Spain. But then I was like, wait, I think it says like, golite, Galicia. And it's like, is it islands?

Unknown:

No, not exactly. But we are kind of isolated. Because we live just in the corner of the country and communications and if you want to travel there, it's kind of complicated. Sometimes it takes a lot of time because the highways are kind of Ron has a lot of interesting things on the other side, and it's embedded beautiful plays lots of green and forests. And yeah, beautiful. See,

Chuck Shute:

but is it so it's beaches? Right. But you said I think you said it was kind of see I'm from Seattle originally. I don't know if you're familiar with that part of the United States, but it's very it's a very similar weather like rainy grey, windy, cold theme. And so that that's hard to grow up like that, right?

Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. That's, it's a big problem for if you want to go to the beach or something. But yeah, the most beautiful forests live because of the constant rain.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, so it's really green, but then not a lot of blue skies and sunshine. No,

Unknown:

no. It's a lot of fog and gray skies and rainy days. It's kind of sad. Yeah, like that. Feeling that Bible their father from Porto, we absolutely agree with that.

Chuck Shute:

Okay. Yeah, I didn't realize how many famous people are from that part of the part of the world like the Martin and Charlie Sheen or from their or their population. Jerry Garcia from the Grateful Dead Enrique and Julio Iglesias and Fidel Castro. His parents are both from there too. I was like, wow, there's like a lot of famous people from I didn't realize it was such a big area.

Unknown:

No, it's not so big that there's a lot of talent, I think. Yeah.

Chuck Shute:

And you of course, too. Oh, well, I'm not the best example. No, are you? Yeah, but you're in Madrid. Now. Is that correct?

Unknown:

Yeah, I live. You know, Madrid is amazing. It's an amazing place, if you want to do anything in relation to culture and going to visit amazing places, museums, and stuff like that. But it's very stressful. It's full of people going everywhere, so fast that it's impossible to live like that. So I move to the countryside, like 40 kilometers from the city centre. That's much better.

Chuck Shute:

That sounds a lot better. So it's in my friend. He's engaged to somebody from Ecuador. And she was saying, This is so interesting to me. I don't know if this is the same in Spain. But she said that, like when she walks down the street men whistle at her and who, and she came to America, and she's like, she was that they were in Las Vegas and walking through casino. And she's like, Oh, this is weird. No one's like hollering at me. And whistling. Did they do the same thing in Spain?

Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah, we don't have many casinos. No, no, we have something similar where you can bet and play some games in. It's where you know, because they are like, small stores where you can come in and everything. It's dark, like in a pub, or something like that. And you can play there and beds and stuff like that. But the feeling in the streets is like, I don't know where to go. But everybody is running around you. And I'm kind of confused. I don't know what kind of public transportation because there's a lot of chances to go there and there. And it's like crazy is like the jungle really

Chuck Shute:

do. But is that true? So like when you're just like if you're just walking down the street, like to the store or the or like to work or whatever. Like there's men that will yell at you and whistles that's very common there. Yes. In Spain, everybody yells. So how do you how do you deal with that? do you what do you do? Just ignore the man or do you do way back or Tom to screw off?

Unknown:

It depends on the day. Sometimes it just did. We don't fuck yourself. Across the street, because you feel afraid. You know, there's some dangerous places here and you just have to go go go. Okay, never stop. All right.

Chuck Shute:

Well, okay, I should get into the music here. Enough of this culture side. It's fascinating to me, but I'm sure your fans like well, what is he gonna talk about the music this guy sucks. So let's, let's talk about music. So you had any music because I found this interesting. I just heard this today that you actually got into it. Because your father worked with some of these musicians. Not necessarily heavy metal, but you were exposed to these. It was like Spanish vocals and stuff at a young age. And you thought, Oh, that's kind of cool, right? Like you saw these different styles and Music and Musicians working. And I want to do that one day, right?

Unknown:

Yeah, that was fascinating. You know, it was like, every single weekend during my childhood, I went with my parents to some kind of show in the middle of the countryside as well with small bands, like, I don't know, six or seven people playing hits on the radio formulas and stuff like that. So there were like, a lot of songs that I've learned from the radio, and then you listen to them because they were like, performing a new version of the heat itself. And it was like, wow, all that production, the lining, all the outfits on stage, the movements, the choreographies stuff like that, it was like wow, that's very interesting. They can be performing a rock song and then go into flamenco. And it's okay. And yeah, that was like, why I love to do that someday. You know, like having the skill of jumping from one style to the other was amazing for me.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, so speaking of different styles, I thought it was interesting too that you you first got into metal and rock it was Bon Jovi, which is like probably going to shock a lot of fans because like you've listened to the stuff you're singing now and it doesn't sound like Bon Jovi, but you got to know what some of the hair metal right?

Unknown:

I know on the lyrics of Bon Jovi Have a nice day album I think okay. Yeah,

Chuck Shute:

that's a good time to quit. Yeah, stop. Yeah, that's good. Wow.

Unknown:

Yes, I think um, I remember, I was watching some TV show, like, tail end show or something like that. And there was a girl performing livin on a prayer. I've never heard that sound before. And to me it was like, Wow, what's that? That's not a pop song. That's not flamenco. That's no blues. What is that? And I was like, I need to find more stuff like this. So I went to the record shop every single week, just to buy any album of Bon Jovi. And when I when I was done, I started to research for another bands, like I was pretty much into the Hard Rock albums of the 80s. And I was a big fan of Guns and Roses, honey rocks, stuff like that.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, so Didn't you just because this is before the internet, or the use of the internet connection wasn't good. So you kind of just had to go to the record store and like take it you're like, well, these guys got long hair. I will try this out. You can just had to do by trial and error, right?

Unknown:

Yeah, that was the vibe. You know, it was like okay, they look very similar to Bon Jovi and bands like that. So yeah, I'll take it

Chuck Shute:

and then you just started going kind of getting doing a deep dive and got more into the heavier stuff right because then you got into the power metal, symphonic metal, Holy Moses, EMF and all those kinds of things, right?

Unknown:

The key for me, it was grunge metal and discover Nirvana, listen, chains, bands like that. And to me, it was like, wow, this is pretty heavy. You know, this is much more than singing very high. This is like, a broken heart and a lot of rage, and anger. And then I started to discover other bands more into the metal core or thrash metal. And yeah, that was like, my way of exploring different music genres. And it was, I think it's very good to just find different stuff to learn about a little bit.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, no, it's good. So then you decided that you wanted to try and go ahead and sing it, right. And that's when you started to practice. And you're watching YouTube videos and things. And just because you said you couldn't find a teacher, right? You kind of get yourself. You know, I

Unknown:

spent most of my teenage hood trying to find somebody to tell me how to sing properly. I started with clean vocals, but it was a nightmare. Teachers really,

Chuck Shute:

is it so it's easier to sing the growl in the in the hard voice than it is to sing clean?

Unknown:

Look, you don't have to find the right note to perform a role or a screen while when you're singing with clean vocals. Everything can be wrong. So to me, it was very difficult at that time. And I thought that was the main reason to start drying roles because I was a big fan of the extreme metal scene at that time, but to me, it was like, Okay, this could be the way this could be my place. And let's try because I tried to learn how to play guitar and it was another disaster. Oh, really?

Chuck Shute:

Do you try drums at all drums is like God. To me. That's the hardest thing I when I try to look at the drums and how many things are going on? I mean, it's so complicated.

Unknown:

No, no, I cannot even do two things at the same time. So to me drums are not my instrument for sure not

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. So then how did you get I saw your parents on the the Spanish version of The Voice love lavos? Is that how you said? Yeah, that was so cool. Because you guys are doing I have a tiger. And you just start growing and one of the judges looks so horrified. He's just like, or she's just like this like, like she did not see that coming.

Unknown:

Yeah, you know, I was like the first person in participating with this rolling style is rolling in approach. And the TV show asked me if I could just start singing for the first audition with some clean vocals because it was the first time in Spain in five auditions in happening something like that. So it was like a shock for everybody. For all the audience. This is a very traditional country and the metal scene it's kind of stigmatized still nowadays. So I thought it would be a good idea you know, because you cannot just simply go there and everybody will probably got scared so I just try my best with some kind of phrases and then I get into the to the role side. And for the eye of the tiger that was not one of my choices, like 10 songs. I love that song but it's impossible to sing for me with clean vocals. So we have to do some kind of battle with other participant of the TV show. And I have the tiger was the choice of my partner. So it was like, Okay, this is going to be interesting or Completely disaster. But it was fun. And I think it was a very nice choice. So yeah, I'm pretty happy with it.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, that was great. They must have given you good exposure, right?

Unknown:

Yeah, sure here, you know, it's crazy. There are a lot of people watching those kinds of TV shows like millions. And there was no other way for me to just go in and reach another different audiences. So it was very good for me and for my band below 100. So we we got a lot of offers from different festivals from the metal scene, and a lot of shows come in a lot of people, new people interested in what we were doing at that time. So that was pretty good.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, so you were actually in blood Hunter, when you when you did that you were kind of showcasing so that your followers and stuff go up a lot from after that appearance?

Unknown:

Yeah, it was like, there was a lot of people like all women and stuff like that, asking me where I can find more of your music. Do you sing in a band or something? And I was like, spamming everybody. These of my band, you know, and they were like, I want to see you on a live show. Where are you going to play in the following months? And it was like, Yeah, come in and have fun. It will be amazing. And yeah, there was a lot of people that have no idea of metal shows or about the extreme metal scene. And they were pretty interested in knowing much more about the scene. So that was very nice.

Chuck Shute:

That's That's good. Yeah, because But didn't you say that? That you the blood with blood Hunter, at least not with necessarily with Nervosa but with blood hunter? You guys have never toured outside of Spain and Portugal?

Unknown:

Yeah, yeah, it's very difficult from the bands here in Spain to get some attention from promoters and record labels from other countries, because they think that we are not very professional. And that's a big mistake, because we have amazing bands here in Spain. But it's very difficult to them. Just trust us. You know, yeah, I

Chuck Shute:

heard you talking about this. Yeah, there's like some sort of like, there's a reputation for the musicians, they're being flaky or lazy. And you say, sometimes that's true, because people will have other priorities, and they'll go on vacation and things. So how, I mean, is this is in any field. Yeah. But I mean, you think that if you're really driven, the lot of those musicians want the dream so bad, they'll work their ass off. So there's got to be a lot of bands like that as well.

Unknown:

Yeah, you know, if I start thinking about some names of this scene, we have amazing, amazing bands, and very young people that have developed amazing skills, playing instruments, and writing music, from many different music genres. It's not, they are not all thrash metal bands, or stuff like that. A lot of different styles and people doing amazing things. But it's very difficult for us just to jump to other two other scenes, you have to pay a lot of money, and invest in your own project to do so. And here, things are not very easy in terms of organizations and people that could help you to withhold money to do so, you know, like, managers, so, stuff like that. So it's very difficult for young people just to grab some money to invest in their projects, and then traveling and then recording an album, and then release it and filming a video clip. It's like a lot of money, you know, and very young people doesn't have the chance, or doing so. So then maybe when you will know that you have the money, then you change your priorities. So so there's not an answer like that.

Chuck Shute:

But you guys got some help. Right? You got it you got a manager or somebody to help with blood Hunter.

Unknown:

Yeah, we have a we work with a Spanish agency called Luca broke fewness that they've been working with a lot of very big bands here in Spain and in Latin America, and axolotl, and bands like that. And that helped us a lot because then promoters here in Spain start to take us seriously, and do some kind of bear offers to us just not to play on our own. You know, when you're in a small band, you just try to figure it out how to do it and you just look some Banier and try to play with another local band. When you have the support from an admin agency things change a lot. And that was a big step for us. Okay,

Chuck Shute:

yeah, that's that's usually like before you got to that point where you're on the voice and you're getting, you know, managers and things. Did you ever have doubts like that? You couldn't sing metal like, you know, maybe that's, you know, for manly men or, I mean, or did other people doubt you? There must have been peelers and you can't do that. Right? I mean, did you must obviously you push through that stuff though, right?

Unknown:

Every day, because I was blonde at that time Oh, really? dying like white. Yeah, that was awful.

Chuck Shute:

So it was something that wasn't your natural that was died. You said,

Unknown:

No, I was dying. Okay, this is my natural her call very Spanish. Yes. So I was very young, kind of being like, you know, you looking? Sweet and so people thought that Come on, you cannot do this. Yeah, when I was on stage, they changed their minds there was like, okay, you can do it. You're not perfect, obviously, because you have to learn a lot. But that's a good start. So that was the only way just to show him people that, yeah, I can demonstrate that I can be good enough. And I will keep on going. But yeah, I had a lot of doubts. And still nowadays, when somebody just asked me, Why don't you sing with clean vocals also like other bands, like gender or stuff like that? It's like, it's never enough. You have to be constantly doing more and more stuff just to prove that you're good enough? And it's like, No, I'm not a clean. I'm not a singer like that. You know, I'm a roller. My performance is based on that. And it's not a problem with male singers. That feel Yeah, nobody asks your corpse right there from Cannibal Corpse wait on us.

Chuck Shute:

Right,

Unknown:

that would be stupid. Yeah, we've women happens a lot. It's like, it's never enough. You have to be more strained all the time that you're better and then I'm there.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. So I mean, but I think the lesson too is, you know, don't judge a book by its cover. Because I think people still look at you and say, Oh, she can't she can't do that. She can't say can you? I know you haven't had a chance to warm up. Can you show my audience like what how you saying? It's amazing to me. I love it.

Unknown:

What do you want to hear anything? I don't care you you choose? Okay, so maybe one there was a song that I've been thinking about today? It's kind of visit from our new album, perpetual chaos. Okay, just the chorus. It's kind of cold right now. But

Chuck Shute:

that was Yeah, that's amazing. That that can come out of you. It's It's It's really impressive. I didn't know. I mean, it literally. So the first time I heard you was I had interviewed Mantis, and you did a collaboration. And I think I think it was Shawn Reed that sent me the clip of the collaboration. And I saw you and then like, I think I saw you about to sing and then you start singing and I was blown away. I was like, I didn't know. I didn't know. I mean, I'm an idiot, I guess cuz I didn't know girls could sing like I was like, That's amazing. Like, there's not a lot that can do it right.

Unknown:

To me, this cover with monsters was a dream come true. To me, it was one of the very first bands from the experimental scene that appeared and mantas To me, it's one of my first heroes in this industry. So it was like a huge thing for me to do. So I decided not to go with a normal approach of rolling style. But trying something kind of melodic, like a little bit into the model head by. And I just sent it to Shawn. And he was like, yeah, this is amazing. Do it this way. And that was the final result.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, no, it's great. So you say that when you write the music, you're translating your emotions into the song. So that's good. Is that really, that's got to be really cathartic? Or does that take a lot out of you to sing this stuff and write this music? I mean, is it are you exhausted afterwards?

Unknown:

You know, it's very different depending on the approach, you know, because for Bill Hunter, we are always trying to talk about, like, metaphorical stuff, in relation to philosophy or occultism. But everything hides, like, the real emotions from your normal life. I mean, it's like, we can be talking about doing them and bad or good and evil, that it's from a more deep feeling. You know, it's like more talking about the choices that we have to make and things like this. But winner Rosa, I had to learn how to talk more straight to the point you're not like you want to go and talk about religions or politics or stuff like that. Just go and do it. Those straight to the point, no poetry in this. So I had to change my mind a lot in relation to that. So in the beginning, to me writing lyrics was very exhausting, because I was like, I know what to talk about. You know, it was like, Okay, I'm listening to the song and I feel like anger or something like that, but anger in relation to what? What should I say in relation to the song? So it took me many years to try to develop some kind of style just to learn and let all the feelings flow,

Chuck Shute:

you know, huh? No, it's it's amazing like so with blood Hunter. The end of faith. I think that's that's your most popular song on Spotify for whatever that's worth. Yeah, but that song I mean, it comes at you like a fucking freight train the blazing guitars and the drums just go so fast. And of course, you're amazing vocals. So is that your favorite blood hunter song as well? Or why do you think that one is so popular? Oh, no, it's not at all.

Unknown:

I think it's because it's the title track of the album. Okay, it's the same title. And people just go and search for the faith. And that's the first one that appears. But I think one of my favorites could be with me horror, that was from our very first album. And it was a kind of black metal song. It's very mixed with some polar metal riffs, you know, because it's fast, but it has some melody, and maybe let the song come from the no faith album, that it's much more into a modern approach. And it has some groove in the main riff. So we start every single show with this song and people it's like, wow, this sounds heavy. This is good stuff.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, yeah, that's great. And then I love also the, it's funny. I'm listening to your music. And I'm like, I kind of recognize a song. I'm like, wait, this is this is the Halloween song I want out. You guys did a cover of that. It's amazing. Now, is that the was that the Halloween singer that sang with you on it too? Or who is who's? Who's doing the COVID?

Unknown:

Yeah, his name is Leo Jimenez. He is a very famous singer here in Spain is like, you know, like the first one in MCs, this high notes screaming so high with very deep roles sometimes. And there was a time like 10 years ago that every vocalist in the middle scene wanted to be like him. So he's like a real hero here in Spain. We are very big fans of him and of his career. And we just met him at one behemoth show here in Spain. We were attending the show both broke on during him. And he approached us just to introduce him himself. It was like, come on, I know who you are. And I started talking. Yeah. And he said that he has been listening to our album, the end of faith, and he was very impressed. So we was like, Okay, we have to do something together. And he was like, Yeah, but let's think about something different. And we thought about doing this cover of a classic song that has now grows in the original version. So he has been able to kind of controversial, not everybody likes to change the classics. Interesting. Yeah.

Chuck Shute:

I like it when when bands do covers if they do their own version, and make it theirs and make it I don't like the cover. That sounds the same. I don't see the point that you guys made it way heavier, and an updated version. So I like it. I think it's really cool. Oh, thank you. Nice. Yeah, so you said you had some really great shows with blood Hunter. You've played some festivals and things but you've also played in some of the worst conditions in the underground scene. So tell me a story about that. Like what are some of the bad times playing with blood hunter?

Unknown:

Man? I heard a lot of stories about that. I remember one of our shows plane like I know this is not too much for North American people but to us plane like five degrees under zero in the middle of the night like 3am close to the sea with a very windy night.

Chuck Shute:

It's horrible. We we couldn't move you know, we were you were in the corset and then you're in your short sleeves and stuff or you have like a ski park on at this point.

Unknown:

No, we went to the stage Yes, with a code. Okay. Everything that we started to play in it was like, Okay, I feel the vibe now. So this is this and we play like, for almost two hours with I don't know, maybe 10 people. But they were jumping like crazy. It was kind of awesome with like, maybe nobody is going to come tonight. But yeah, there was some people they're having fun. So it was like, let's do it. So

Chuck Shute:

you get so energized and you're worked up by the by the music that you don't even need your coats anymore. Yeah, absolutely. That's cool. That's actually kind of cool, though. So so then yeah, so nervosa, like you tell the story about how you were offered to audition during the lockdown, but you can't really audition in person so you got to send videos. Right? Yeah, that was insane.

Unknown:

I remember myself in the middle of their lockdown just sitting in the lightning in the sofa. It was not very late at night. But I was wearing my pajamas, you know, it was May or April, May 2020. And I just took my phone, and it was like, you have a message from pretty camera. And I was like, this has to be wrong. I start freaking out, like,

Chuck Shute:

how did she send you the message was an email or Instagram or how did she?

Unknown:

He wasn't used to Roman. Okay, I think she was asking me if I wanted to do an audition for novels. And to me, it was like, very shocking thing, because I didn't know that phenomenal wanna have with the band? And it was like, Okay, I think they're just part ways. And now, she's asking me if I want to try even to be the new singer of the band. So, to me, it was amazing. It was huge, because I've been a fan of novels, and there wasn't has been, like one of the main references for me in the extreme metal scene. There are not many all female form bands. And to me, they were like real heroes, you know. And that was a huge honor. So when I could just write something, I just say, yeah, let me know, what do you need me to sound or videos or something. And I remember she was asking me to send two videos performing the song death and kill the silence. And I just write like, I know, 100 different versions of them. I was not sure because my vocal register is completely different to the previous one of Fernanda. And I was like, me, and I'm not sure if they are going to like this. But yeah, try my best. And some weeks. I think it was like, one or two weeks before she called me. And we were discussing some things about how it was going to be my commitment with the project about the language, stuff like that, you know, like, will you be available to travel a lot the year you have a normal job and stuff like that. So once we just discuss everything, it was like, okay, you're in the band. Wow. Wow. And you're gonna

Chuck Shute:

stay with 102? You're gonna do both bands. Right? Is that the plan?

Unknown:

Yeah, yeah, you know, 100 it was my very first band ever. And I learned anything that I know. Thanks to this man. You know, my very first lyrics. The very first lyrics that I wrote the very first shows that I played the very first album that I've recorded the very first appearance in the studio. It was with blow 100. So yeah, I think that my heart belongs to bow hunter too. And it's a good thing for me to keep on trying and keep on trying to work for the banner with this band, too.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. So you'll just see. I mean, that's got to bring up some challenges, though, in terms of touring and recording. You're just kind of be there'll be flexible with you, though the bill able to help each other to be able to help each other out. Yeah.

Unknown:

Yeah. You know, we have like different visions. As I told you before, we know that it's very difficult for us Spanish man to go and do a worldwide tour just next month. Yeah, because we all have different projects besides me. And the other musicians have their own projects, too. And they have their jobs too. So it's okay, if we just play some shows every month. And that's all we are much more focused on recording albums, and writing new music. And that's the main theme for us.

Chuck Shute:

So yeah, the new album perpetual chaos, with Nervosa that that's, I mean, the thing that the song guided by evil thing has like over 300,000 listens on Spotify. But really, the whole album is just so intense from the title track to the opening track venomous I mean, it doesn't slow down. And I find myself just like, I'm just sitting here and I'm like, but I'm like, I feel like I need to move. You know what I mean? It's kind of dance music makes you want to dance like this album makes you want to like, move like I need to go work out or something like you can't just sit there and fold your hands and listen to this album. Like I dare you to try that. Like I dare anyone to try that. Like, this is what it's designed for. Right? I mean, that's why they have the mosh pits and stuff of these concerts.

Unknown:

It's a perfect album for quarantine because you can be your workout, trying to stay healthy and bang and keep your body active. Yeah.

Chuck Shute:

Maybe it reminds me like I when I was in high school, I was really into Panthera. And I'm like, Oh man, I need to get back into this kind of music because it's so energizing it really just like it's great like workout music and stuff. It makes you Like, you know, move, like I said, like, I think that's really that's really good stuff to listen to for that, like, it's definitely probably not good music to listen to if you want to relax, I wouldn't recommend them.

Unknown:

Yeah, yeah, it's just, you know, we didn't have idea or how this album is going to be in the end, you know, because we were like four people working without knowing each other, living all together for one month in one studio. And we were working on the songs, we have some pre production, we've been working from home the previous months. But when we enter the studio, things change a lot. Because sometimes we were like, you know, like, taking attention to other kind of stuff, different details that when you work alone, you just cannot find out. And we were just reading some lyrics. And it was like, No, we can do it better. And then we change everything at the same day. So it was an amazing experience, I learned a lot. They were all very open minded. So the very first weeks, it was like, changing a lot of stuff and trying new things. And being flexible with that. So that was the best thing of this album, I think, because it makes you feel all that energy, and all that positive vibe of being all together working for doing something just amazing, you know, just to show to the fans of nervosa, that we are still alive, we want to keep on going with this product for the best. That's great.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, so you like in blood Hunter. It's interesting, because it's it's an all male band, obviously, except for you. And then with nervosa, it's all female. So that's like you have like that you're able to experience both worlds, what is the differences? What do you Is there one that you like, better they like working with women or men are,

Unknown:

you know, I must confess that I always wanted to be in an all female band, you know, it's, I don't like to wear makeup and stuff like that. So to me, I know that it looks better, because it makes part of the whole performance. So to me, being alone, just trying to put my makeup on. It was like, I'm sad, you know, you don't have to do this. And when that goes, it's like everybody's trying just to do their thing. And we are all together. And we share stories while doing this. So it's like you feel home in some way. Because obviously, I always had much more friends being men than women. But in this case, I feel a lot of things in common with this girls. And this to me, it's amazing, because it's having like a soul mate,

Chuck Shute:

but informed. That's so cool. Well, so how has your music? I mean, you must you have so many fans, obviously, and followers have been from both bands, how has your music helped or inspired people, I mean, you must get a lot of positive feedback from fans.

Unknown:

You know, as a fan of other brands, I'm always searching for these kind of stories that encouraged me to keep on going in my normal life, you know, sometimes I just really need sounds to relax, as we were talking about before. But other times, you just need to release your anger and your anxiety and your fears. Just to find this safe place where you can just open your heart and feeling safe. You know, and sometimes songs about encouragement and being honest with yourself and doing what you want and feeling free are the most inspirational for me. So I'm always trying to find this equilibrium between stuff like serious stuff, like things that are happening in the world and worse and economical stuff and politics, but in relation to the normal life because at the end, we are only people you know, and we need to feel like that connection with the others.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, well, and I heard you say this is an interesting, it was kind of I'm probably butchering this quote, but that you've become happier over the years as you started to do what you want, like started to dress how you want you started listening to music that you like, and, you know, you're still interested in other people's thoughts and opinions, but ultimately, you need to make your own decisions. That's something that you kind of started to learn to realize over the years correct?

Unknown:

Yeah, you know, sometimes you just want to be the good girl. You know, like the person that everybody expects you to be like, The Good Wife, the good sister, the good daughter. And sometimes this is very difficult because if you don't feel to do something that probably will be wrong, and you won't be happy with that and if you weren't, if you are not happy with what you are doing if you are not happy As to yourself, you cannot be good and make feel good. The others, you know. So that was a very important theme for me since I was very young. And I had a lot of fights with my parents. Because of that, that. Yeah, they finally understood that I was just searching for my own way to do to live my life, you know, and now I feel very much more confident than when I was younger because of that, because I really know what I want. And I just going my way, that's great.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, you're on? I mean, if you're not there already, you're definitely on the way. Are you still working as a psychiatric nurse? As a side?

Unknown:

Yeah, maybe for this year, I will keep the job because, you know, we started to play some live shows, but it's like, four or five shows in a move. That's not too much to make a living, you know, and to me just quitting my job, it means that I will have something huge. And I still love my daily job as a psychiatric nurse. So yeah, I think it's going to be hard to me that way to say, Okay, see you

Chuck Shute:

but nervous. I mean, they they too, are worldwide, right? It's not like blood 100. were bought hundreds, just Spain Nervosa tours all over. Right. So that could that could turn into pretty much a full time job, right?

Unknown:

Yeah, maybe next year, maybe next year? That will be the point because we've just announced a two month tour around Europe. 2022. So yeah. Will

Chuck Shute:

you tour the states at all?

Unknown:

Yes, but after that, okay. Yeah, like maybe four months. Okay. Next year, so yeah, it's going to be quite intense. And that's very good. But yeah. I'm thinking about think about this before, you know, when we were discussing with Prager, these kind of things about commitment, and with the project and so on, she asked me, if we have to go on tour, will you do it? Are you available? Because you cannot say okay, I mean, and then not being available for events. So yeah, I've been thinking about this. And I think this is a perfect time. You know, I cannot wait to do this. Because maybe tomorrow, I won't have this chance, again, of becoming a professional musician. So I think I have to just grab the chance. Definitely have fun.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. And you're so good at it. So I'd love to see a show. If you do if you come to the States, if you're somewhere I'm in Arizona, so I don't know if there's if you go to Vegas, or LA it's not that far. But that'd be fun to see. I would just stay out of the mosh pit because I pray get murdered. I'll be in the back. But yeah, be fun to see no. find you. Okay, all right, drag me into the mosh pit and get me. I'll be fun is that? Tell me what is the show? Like, I've never seen you guys live. So what what do I expect if I go to come to a show?

Unknown:

You know, we've been blamed for the first time, one month ago. And with this situation of social distancing, and stuff, human has been this is pretty sweet. So we have a lot of rules about it. There's not a lot of things happening right now. But we played in Poland. And there was no social distancing. Nobody were on was wearing the face mask. So to me, it was like, this is a different universe. You know, this is like traveling in time. And I have this feeling of, I never felt like doing this. It will be so amazing. You know, you take for granted the planar live show with skill. And that's very nice and stuff like that. But that was like, like, the very first time that you play a show. It was like doing this all over again. But as it was the very first time and it was kind of strange. The very first songs I was like, is this real life? is this happening?

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, that's, that's exciting. For sure. Well, you know, we're hitting that 45 minute mark. So let's go ahead and wrap up. I'd like to end each episode with a charity. And I think you mentioned the metal against Coronavirus. That's a project that raises funds for research against Coronavirus. Right. Yeah,

Unknown:

yeah, it is like that. I thought this would be like a good stuff to share it with people, you know, because we are much better than in the beginning of this pandemic situation. But still people need a lot of help. Because there are a lot of people that I'm in countries that doesn't have a chance of going to a hospital for free. So there's a lot of people dying in the streets. And I think this is a very nice way of trying to help them just raising funds to send to all this. Patients are suffering and to their families. Just to help them To get some treatments, it's only that you know, that can cause a life. If you don't get your treatments and your support that can means that you will be dead. That's very heavy stuff.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, no need for. Yeah, for sure it is. Yeah. So yeah, I'll put that in the notes so people can throw a few bucks that way, and then definitely follow both your bands blood hunter and Nervosa on and your own personal Instagram too. I believe diva, say tanika. So all that stuff. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. Awesome. Well, it's been a lot of fun. Like I said, I'd love to see a show. And otherwise, I'll just be listening to music when I'm working out and it'll keep me going. I think it's good stuff. So all right. Thanks so much for doing this. All right. I'll talk to you later. Bye. Bye. diva, say tanika What an amazing woman. I love her music. And I love her. Make sure to follow her and her bands on social media again, blood hunter and reverse though the bands. And it sounds like Nervosa we'll be doing some shows. So that's exciting. And like I said earlier, I did want to talk about the rockin pod convention that I went to it was a lot of fun. And I did have a couple takeaways from that that I wanted to share. And I realized a lot, there's a ton of rock music podcasts out there. So I'm really trying to stand out. And I realized after that going this convention, I really need to up my game. So a couple things I'd like to do one is increased the production quality of my show. I think the audio quality is pretty solid. But I'd like to up the visuals for the YouTube audience. And I've upgraded my camera once, but I may need to upgrade it even again. And I'd also like to do more short clips for the YouTube channel to advertise the full episodes. I've talked about doing these more of these. I've done a couple. But I think it's time to try to, you know, really make that a priority and try to pump out one or two a week. Also, I think to stand out, I really need to continue to continue to branch out and do interviews with people in other fields other than music. And I really like having on authors, movie and TV people, comedians and other types of folks. But Lastly, I just want to ask for your input. If you're a regular listener of the show, what kind of guests Do you want to see on here? What changes would you make to the show? What do you like about it any input that you have is always appreciated, as well as your comments, likes and shares on YouTube and social media. That helps me out quite a bit. And also make sure to subscribe to my YouTube channel. We're inching up to 600 subscribers at the time of this recording. So getting a lot closer to that 1000 mark. I'm very excited for that. So thank you again for listening. Have a great rest of your day. And remember to shoot for the moon.