Chuck Shute Podcast

Jizzy Pearl (Quiet Riot)

July 27, 2021 Jizzy Pearl Season 3 Episode 161
Chuck Shute Podcast
Jizzy Pearl (Quiet Riot)
Show Notes Transcript

Episode 161- Jizzy Pearl! Jizzy started out on the sunset strip in a great band called Love/Hate. That band had success with videos on MTV as well as tours with Ozzy, AC/DC, Dio, and Skid Row. After that band ended Jizzy went on to sing for L.A. Guns, Ratt, Adler’s Appetite and Quiet Riot. He has a new solo record coming out and also has two books available. We discuss all this in the episode plus fights with Sebastian Bach & Zakk Wylde, the music business, his friendship with Layne Staley and more! 

00:00 - Intro
01:12 - Jizzy's Books 
02:35 - Screenplays & "The Dirt" 
05:11 - The Fourth Book 
06:00 - Unhappy Endings & Ways to Die 
07:46 - Love/Hate & Blackout In the Red Room
10:11 - Success Early On & Record Label 
12:25 - Scuffle with Sebastian Bach 
16:18 - Fight with Zakk Wylde 
18:18 - End of Love/Hate 
19:50 - Drive, Perseverance & Music Business
23:18 - "Wasted America" Album & Record Company
26:18 - Friends with Layne Staley & Alice In Chains
27:45 - Weathering the Grunge Storm
30:00 - Getting the Call for L.A. Guns 
32:10 - L.A. Guns Album "Shrinking Violet" 
34:02 - Band Drama 
37:15 - Quiet Riot 
38:52 - New Jizzy Pearl Solo Record & Golden Robot 
40:50 - Unhappy Endings & Porn Writing 
43:10 - Mafia & Pimps at the Rainbow
44:40 - Dirty Humor & Jizzy's Writing Style 
46:00 - Salvation Army 
47:40 - Wrap Up 

Jizzy Pearl website:
https://jizzypearl.net

Salvation Army website:
https://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/

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Chuck Shute:

Hey, welcome to the show real quick if you're not already watching or listening in on YouTube, if you could bring up YouTube on your phone or computer, and make sure to subscribe to my channel, you can also tap the bell and that way you'll get notified when I release new videos. Now, if you're a fan of my show, you know that I love the bands of the Sunset Strip. And my guest today jersey pearl was definitely part of that scene. He started with a band called love hate, and they had a lot of success. They toured with AC DC, Ozzy do and Skid Row. And he has some good stories about a couple fights with some well known rock stars from those tours that you're going to hear about today. In my interview with him, that's exclusive as far as I know, I've never heard these stories before. Plus he is re releasing his books. One is currently sold out, but the other two are available. So we're going to talk about that. Plus, we'll talk about his days and rat and La guns. And what he's doing now with quiet Riot and his solo career, and so much more. So check it out. Please welcome jizzy Pearl, singer, author extraordinare How you doing? Good. Good. What's up? What's up? Yeah, let's uh, well, gosh, there's so much to talk about so many bands that have been in love hate rap, quiet riot. La guns, your solo career? And then you have these books. That's the main thing that you're promoting right now is the books correct? He's books. Yeah. unhappy? And is there a third one? my alma, what is it? There is a third one, but it's sold out. So Oh, it's totally sold out then. So what do you you can't make more how does that work? I can make more. It's just you know, go to the money tree. Are you you producing these yourself? Like printing them? Oh, wow. That's is that is it? You make more of a profit that way, though. Right? Well,

Jizzy Pearl:

you know, I, originally when I wrote these books, I tried to get a publishing deal. But the content was so incendiary that nobody wanted to touch it. And that this was before rock books really sort of took off. Like they are now. You know, I mean, so yeah, I just, you know, I call a printer and send him the specs and make it myself.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. So tell me this story that I heard that you had a deal with the independent movie channel for one of your books to be made into a movie. For this one. Yeah. Yeah. So then they gave you an early script of the dirt to kind of read to kind of have like a rough idea of what it would be like, well,

Jizzy Pearl:

they wanted me to write the screenplay. And to help me become a screenplay writer, which I wasn't. They gave me a bunch of scripts, they gave me Almost Famous, they gave me the dirt. They gave me you know, a couple of good scripts. And so I sort of had to learn, you know, try to figure out how to, to do that.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, cuz I had the screenwriter from the dirt on and he said that the written his version, it was a lot more gritty. And, you know, at the end of new movie, now, they kind of redeem themselves. At the end. He said in his version, it was like, there was no redemption. It was more like the book where there were assholes at the beginning. And there were assholes at the end.

Jizzy Pearl:

Yeah, the script that I had was a lot different than what came out on Netflix. I think Netflix, kind of gave it a gloss of lacquer, right? And kind of, you know, give it a nice sheen. But the original script was a little bit more harsh. It dealt a little bit more with the heroin. situation with Nicki and Ryan, you know, so

Chuck Shute:

yeah, so then you did you and you wrote, did you end up writing your your screenplay, and then they just changed their mind or something? or What happened?

Jizzy Pearl:

Um, pretty much Well, I had the deal. And then I like a million other screenwriters. It just didn't happen. It. It didn't happen in the logistics of, of the movie business. You know what I mean? So yeah, at the time, I was kind of bummed, but I realized that, that, you know, what, 99% of movies don't really get made anyway. So, you know,

Chuck Shute:

but do they, they pay you for the screenplay, and then they they like, what is it like option? Is that the word like where they buy it? And then they just didn't

Jizzy Pearl:

like that. Okay, they option it and then and then we go from there. So but I mean, that was a long time ago.

Chuck Shute:

Would you be trying to get any of these books made into movies now or?

Jizzy Pearl:

I hadn't even thought of it. I mean, I'm literally touring Every weekend with quiet riot, so most of my energy is being devoted to jumping around on stage.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, and then but there also maybe a fourth book coming out, too, right?

Jizzy Pearl:

There is a fourth book for sure. Oh, it's about I'm about 230 pages in so I need to write a couple of more horrible dark stories to sort of, to finish it, but it's, uh, it's pretty much done.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, that's, uh, so what is this one? The fourth one called? You have a title for you?

Jizzy Pearl:

I don't, okay, I don't. It's, it's, it's in the same vein. I mean, you read the one book, it's sort of in the same vein as all the rest of them. It's sort of 50% Hollywood, Sunset Strip, subject matter. And then the other half is sort of straight out Black Mirror. Fiction. Yeah, what

Chuck Shute:

was the one that I was I was reading some of it and it said, the worst ways the unhappy endings is the book I read. But then also, I think that chapter was called unhappy endings where you talk about the worst way to die. And he talks about this guy being backed up into a wall and then they build bricks around him and he's literally buried alive in a wall and just left to die. That would be a long dark way to go i three weeks or something? Just tell you starve to death. Two weeks?

Jizzy Pearl:

Yeah, yeah, this this. This protagonist was pretty pissed. And pretty crazy. So yeah, he he gave all his friends a big shellacking.

Chuck Shute:

Do you think that is the worst way to die? Is that like is that that's god, I can't think of much worse or what do you think's worse?

Jizzy Pearl:

I just I draw from my, my past. I mean, one of the guy one of the guys was scared of sharks, because we had seen jaws so many times that he refused to go on the water anymore. And we were all California body surfers. I mean, you know, pretty much every weekend, and he just stopped flat out because he was scared to death of going in the water because of the movie. I mean, I think a lot of people were, um, and then you know, the the buried alive thing comes from the Edgar Allan Poe story. And, and so on and so on.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, so is is the best way to die. Maybe just in your sleep at eight years old.

Jizzy Pearl:

I don't think there is a best way to die. But I'm thinking yeah, natural causes would be the

Chuck Shute:

least painful because like if you're in your sleep you wouldn't even notice right. Yeah. float away like like in ghost you just float away. Oh, let's Can we talk about love hate a little bit or your? Yeah, that's always a fun bit. That's how I first heard of you. It was I think it was on one of those compilations. I feel like it was a song rock queen. I think that's and that's one of my favorite love hate songs. But that's not the blackout in the Red Room is technically kind of a bigger hit right? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Is that what what is your favorite song off that first record blackout in the red room? Cuz that's kind of the biggest album for that band. Right?

Jizzy Pearl:

That was for sure. The biggest Yeah, I would say blackout in the red room or that song tumbleweed would be my favorites.

Chuck Shute:

I think that's cool. I noticed that I haven't seen quiet right with you guys in it. But I saw the setlist that you include blackout in the Red Room with quiet riot. Yeah. Oh, and we're doing blackout. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of cool. No,

Jizzy Pearl:

it's killer. Yeah, it's great. It's great that I mean, obviously quiet rights been around for 40 years. And their songs are iconic, you know, the hit songs. And it's nice for me to be able to you know, while I'm singing other people's songs it's nice for me to sing one of my own

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, and I'm sure the crowd reacts that and they recognize that till you can tell people that know it. You can tell Yeah, because you guys have a pretty big following I mean, you were on MTV and stuff but even more recently Steel Panther has used your song and I heard you say that warrant firehouse and a lot of these other guys are were big love hate fans.

Jizzy Pearl:

Yeah, that I found that out later on when I was touring with them in LA guns. I found out that these guys we're big love hate fans and and I my record was one of the records that was being played on the on their bus a lot. which is you know, which is great. I mean firehouse guys and warrant guys and a lot of bands because my band was unusual. You know what I mean? It wasn't your typical two dimensional rock band. It had a it had some some some substance in Some twists and turns to it. And, and and now 30 years later, you know, I think the record still stands up for sure.

Unknown:

Mm hmm.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. So back when that first record was released, and then you guys toured with do and AC DC, I mean, what was it like at that point, you must have felt like you've made it right. You're on top of the world. You've got videos on MTV turn with AC DC. It couldn't get any better than that, right?

Jizzy Pearl:

Yeah, little did I know. Well, that's when you get a record deal. And you're young, which I was. And I had no business sense. I had no sense of anything. Here's your record deal. You just immediately think about all the cliche, things that you're going to be rich, you're going to live in a mansion, and you're destined. And this is just the way it's going to be this is going to be your life, arenas. Gold records, MTV chicks. You know, I mean, you just figured that this is the way it's gonna be forever. And then, you know, reality hits you, in that the record companies extract their pound of flesh daily. You know what I mean? There's there, every every salami on that food tray, had a little barcode on it. And we all ever, and we had to pay it all back. You know, I mean,

Chuck Shute:

right? I've heard stories like this, where the record company takes you out to this really fancy dinner, and you're like, Oh, that's so nice of them. But then they charge you for the bill. It's like it's on this horse. Yeah.

Jizzy Pearl:

But I mean, tour support. The thing about it is that back then, bands were given tour support, which was absurd money. You know, I mean, it costs a lot of money. Buses are expensive. You know, what are the union hotels and flights, and especially if you're going to Europe, you know, the buses There are even more expensive. So, it, it adds up. We toured with Ozzy and Skid Row in Europe for months. You know, I mean, and yeah, at the end of the, at the end of that 10. year, there was a big old price tag.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, so tell me what happened with that too, or was Skid Row, is it? Is it true? You got into a fight with Sebastian Bach? Is that a true story? I got into a scuffle.... My problem was, I was drinking a lot. My band was sort of known that the songs were about drinking and, we were partiers. I mean, we were having a good time. And I was out there with those guys. And I just, I said the wrong thing to Sebastian, I just said something stupid. And it kind of got into a little bit of a TIFF. And, and then the next morning, I woke up, and I came downstairs in the hotel lobby, and one of my band guys said, congratulations, we're kicked off the tour now. Because of you and I just, I didn't want to believe it. So we had a long van ride. It was in England. So we've had a long van ride to the next show. And I was sitting up front, and I could feel the eyes of hatred from the other three guys burning into the back of my head. Because that's unacceptable. You just you are tour ruiner and that makes you a dick. You crossed the line. So when I got to the next gig, they were all in a dressing room. And I was pacing. There was this long hallway backstage, I think was an Edinburgh, Scotland. There was a long hallway backstage and the dressing rooms were situated, I guess Skid Row and LA Guns and then sort whatever. And I was pacing this hallway. And I was just thinking to myself, whatever I got to do, which might include kneepads to save the tour, and not go home in disgrace, you know what I mean? Okay, and I was I was sitting there and then the door opened. And Sebastian, who's a tall dude. He peeks his head through the door, and I look at him, and he looks at me, and it was like a two second thing, and then he just goes ahhh, fuck it off, okay, I'm sorry, dude. And I go"Oh, I'm sorry" and we're hugging. And I look over his shoulder, and all three of my band guys are peeking out through the door going like this. Like that, like many moments, you know. So you made up?

Unknown:

Yeah, the thing is, sometimes when you're on the road and you're on the road for a long time, and it's a different reality than real life. It's just, you're traveling a lot. You're never really rooted anywhere, because you're always into the next town. And people want a piece of you- always have to do a lot of interviews and photoshoots and you and it were, for me, I would like to just lay down and recover from last night's binge drinking. I have to sit there and tell everybody about my brand new record and how pleased I am to be out with, you know what I mean? And I'm fucking tired. And so things can get irritable. I'm just talking, not talking myself. I'm just talking. That's the nature of being on the road. So sometimes people get catty, and, and that's what happened to me. But then, the next day, or even an hour or two later.... I mean, I got into a fight with Zakk Wylde on the Ozzy tour, and which was a mistake.

Chuck Shute:

And what was that about?

Jizzy Pearl:

(Makes drinking sound effect). It was a booze again, it was not what he was drinking, because he doesn't drink anymore. But he was maybe back then he

Unknown:

He was drinking, but I was DRINKING. Okay. And I once again, did something stupid. And so we started throwing punches at each other. And, oh, he's a big dude. So obviously, I didn't win that scuffle. And then yeah, the next day, actually, within a half hour, we were the two of us were dancing on the dance floor, arms around each other. I was wearing his cowboy hat.

Chuck Shute:

And were you physically okay at that point? I was like his bitch. And I woke up the next morning and it was on the news. It was on The Real News. My girlfriend in LA called me. It was on the news in Los Angeles. She's going What the fuck? I'm hearing that you're, you're you're fighting people in Ozzy's ban, blah, blah, blah. I mean, you know, this was 1992 it was before the internet.

Jizzy Pearl:

And you could get away with a lot more. You know what I mean? When there's no internet, a lot of times, there's no consequences for what you can get into as far as shenanigans. And But yeah, I mean, it was a great time, we had a lot of fun, and got to play with Ozzy Osbourne every night. And, you know, it was cool times.

Chuck Shute:

Wow. Yeah. Those are some great memories. Like, even if that was the end. I feel like man, that's like some amazing memories that I mean, for the for the rest of your band, a lot of it. That was the end, right? I mean, they they're not in the music business anymore. Right. The other love hate guys

Jizzy Pearl:

know, they're, they're all moved on. Um, we sort of stopped playing in 1997. We tried to carry on. But what happened was, and this happens to a lot of bands, for sure. Is that at a certain point, the band stops being your priority. And which it was for a long time with us. I mean, it was it was nauseating. All we did was talk about the band, think about the band, come up with schemes to make the band better. You know, I mean, writing new songs writing it, it's, it was an all consuming thing. And it was all you did and all you thought about, and then people get married and they start having kids, and they start to you know, pull away. And it's like, kids that were best friends in high school. And then all of a sudden after graduation, you know what I mean? It's just it's just not the same. So in 1997 everyone sort of left and I was the only I was the like, in the movie. I Am Legend. Oh,

Chuck Shute:

yeah. Will Smith. Yeah, that was me. Okay. Me. Yeah. And you talk about you talk to about like jealousy though, and you're unhappy endings book and how you used to be in this cover band with your friend. And then obviously you went on and you know, you're you're doing tours with ACD You see an Aussie and stuff and? And he didn't? Why do you think that but you said at the time when you guys were on the cover man, you thought this guy is gonna take off. He's really smart, he can fix cars, he's musically talented, he gets all the girls. And for whatever reason you took off, and he didn't Why do you think that was?

Jizzy Pearl:

Um, well, one thing is that I was in a band with a bunch of guys who, whose sole mission in life was love hate. And when you have that sort of drive, and perseverance, you know, it's not to say that you're, you're going to be successful or have a record deal. But basically, there's no safety rope, no one really had jobs. It was, Do or die. And when you have that degree of commitment, um, it's, it's very powerful. And I did a podcast yesterday with a friend of mine, who was in a local band in LA at that same time that we were there. And he echoed that, that we were, we were like, a platoon of, of hardened, you know, Special Forces, guys. And when we went out, it was, those are those guys, you know what I mean? And that's a lot of people can't make that commitment. You know what I mean? He really can't, especially now. Yeah, because Facebook and social media is, so it doesn't allow you to, to, to. It doesn't allow you to not look at reality. You know what I mean? When you're, when we were on the Sunset Strip, and we were playing, and we were doing bands and stuff, you know what I mean? You can, you can basically comfort yourself with the idea that you're going to make it I'm destined to make it, nothing's gonna stop me. But I guess nowadays, all you have to do is go on Facebook, and everyone says, Oh, you suck. You'll never get your army, you your song stank. And that might influence you to maybe not be 100%. You know, I mean, well, maybe they're right. Or they maybe I do suck. Or maybe I'm too old to make it nowadays. They're signing bands in their teens. You know what I mean? They're signing bands in their teens, because they want to rip them off, basically. Well, it's the record business is a business. And they're very sneaky. And, you know, prince had a problem with his label. A lot of people have problems with their label. You know, I mean, if you're not successful, you're a dick. If you're extremely successful, they'll let you do whatever you want. I mean, yeah, so

Chuck Shute:

yeah, so tell me about that. Because your second album wasted in America with love hate? Wasn't the the record company originally did is it true, they rejected every song that you guys turned in for the record, and they they wanted you to have you wanted a more of a crossover sound, and they thought you guys were losing your edge?

Jizzy Pearl:

I think, well, how that happened was, um, we wrote a bunch of songs. And I think that when we went into the demo stage, we just assumed that they were just going to be okay. You know, because we're geniuses and the time well, you got to understand at the time, we blackout in the red room was best Record of the Year in the UK, and Metal Hammer and crane. We got a lot of accolades for that record. You know, I mean, it didn't sell millions of records, but I mean, best Record of the Year, you know what I mean? So we're thinking, we're going to make, you know, waste in America is going to be better and bigger and blah, blah, blah. And what happened was, we just we didn't take enough time. And then they just said, Well, look, why don't you go back and fix the songs or? And we did. You know, and we did you know, we weren't idiots about it. You know what I mean? We just kind of went back to the drawing board and fixed it.

Chuck Shute:

So do you think they're right and in hindsight, they

Jizzy Pearl:

right and wrong. They picked the wrong single for our first single they picked this song called Happy Hour, which is kind of like a chili peppers. Progressive, it was a weird Song. And maybe it was our fault for putting it in there because we just we like to have different songs. You know what I mean? We it's not like AC DC wherever song sounds similar, right? Like the variety. And so they pick that song, and then that song tanked. And when that song tanked we're to blame train, right? That's kind of I mean, that's

Chuck Shute:

what was your favorite song? What song do you think you should have had the as released as a single from that album?

Jizzy Pearl:

There was a song called Miss America that was sort of a radio friendly song. I don't know if it would have done any better. I just don't know. I just don't know. The thing about records and record deals and the music business is that it's all a crapshoot I, I told the story before Columbia Records was a very conservative label, and they didn't know what to do with us. They, they, we were different. We were these guys. You know what I mean? And what do you you know, when you have Barbra Streisand, and you have Bruce Springsteen, and then you have these guys, I mean, what do you do? How do you mark it? May didn't really know what to do. And I was friends with Allison chains, guys, they were on our label, right? And, and Layne told me, we were at a party. And he told me that this is when man in the box was huge. This is when they were just breaking. And he looks at me and he goes, he goes, dude, they didn't do anything. They man in the box had 80 radio stations and wouldn't go away. And it was that fucking song. And they're taking credit for it like they are the geniuses. But it was the song. And it was obviously it was grunge was sort of coming in. And the COC rock was sort of coming out. And it was they were at the right time. And it's a great record. And it's a great song. And he's telling me stories about Rolling Stone, went into his closet and tried to pick his clothes for him. And he's just going Fuck, he just he wasn't prepared to be a product. You know what I mean? He wasn't prepared for that. Maybe that's one of the reasons he kind of did what he did.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, so did you stay friends with him after that? Because it Allison chains took off, and they were just so big was it you kind of lose touch with people like that when you when you have that friendship? Um,

Jizzy Pearl:

well, we just, I was in LA and they were up there. You know, they were up there. And they had their I mean, it's just weird. When that whole grunge thing happened. You know, we our brand of Sunset Strip. Rock was was dead. I mean, it it was dead on arrival. And, and we were still making records, and we were still playing. But right. record companies were just not interested. Sorry, dude. You know, you got this weird name jersey. And, and you're, you know what I mean? And now we're all about, you know, Seattle and singing songs about being depressed and, and. And that's just what happens. You can it's almost like how disco became uncool, just immediately, right? Our brand of rock. And like the warrants and and the firehouses and stuff like that. We just all immediately became uncool. overnight.

Chuck Shute:

So how did you so what kick because you guys did I think, six or seven albums, you kept going well into the 90s? What kept you going then if that music wasn't cool? There must have been somebody that liked it? Or did you just do it for your own artistic integrity? Or

Jizzy Pearl:

we did it because we thought that we could weather the storm. You know what I mean? We thought that we're really good. And we'll survive this. And, and what happened is his his guys got married, and guys didn't want to, you know, commit, like they used to commit. I mean, it happens all the time. It happens all the time. And it was just, you know, that's just the way it was. And we did a couple more records and we did some tours, and we were still sort of big in Europe. So we could still go over there. And, and do okay. But you know, the writing was on the wall and these guys wanted to, you know, have regular lives and they couldn't pay mortgages with with music anymore. And so they all moved on, and then it was just me all by myself.

Chuck Shute:

And you kept going and then somebody How Tell me the story how did you get the job for LA guns? Did Tracy call you or do you have to audition? or How did that work out? Because that's that's a big break.

Jizzy Pearl:

I just got a phone call a booking agent called me and said that that they were looking to replace Phil and this that guy Jolla stay the bank Tango guy. He was originally gonna be the singer. Oh, I didn't know that and and but they said why don't you come down and just we'll see what happens and so I went down there. This was after a disastrous love hate tour that I did opening for do a one of the last times I opened for deal with love hate, and it was just a horrible crash and burn thing. And so I it was just I was really nice to be able to put love hate aside and all that acrimony. And, and so I went down there and just we ended up jamming Led Zeppelin songs turns out, you know, we're all Led Zeppelin fan, so I didn't even really do Galligan songs. We just sort of did Led Zeppelin songs. And then, after a week or so, I just got the gig. They had a tour. And it was it was crucial that they they know they have a guy. And so that's how I got it.

Chuck Shute:

That's amazing. That's got to feel pretty amazing too. Because you're playing 10,000 seat arenas or whatever. You got to feel like I'm back. I made it like, in some ways bigger than ever. I don't know if I did love hate ever. Play shows that big. And besides opening for AC DC and do well.

Jizzy Pearl:

We did I mean, we played well on that. When I was in LA guns. We were still openers. Okay, we were still first out of three or something like that. But yeah, I mean, I was on a bus and I was you know, playing big stages, and I didn't and it was all good. It was all good. I mean, I was working. Cool. Oh, yeah, it worked out and then

Chuck Shute:

you guys did that album shrinking violet. Do you? I don't think I've seen you do any songs. I don't see that like in your solo setlist? I haven't seen you. Do you ever play songs from that album? And your solo? days or anything? Or?

Jizzy Pearl:

No? Really? Really? I mean, we did it when we weren't when I was in the band. We played songs off surely. Yeah. But I have so many solo records that, you know, I would rather play songs that I like, more.

Chuck Shute:

Fair enough. Yeah. Do you? I mean, you're ever getting requests for that? Or? Because that's kind of gonna

Jizzy Pearl:

I sign a bunch of the records. Oh, okay. Like when I was in Mexico. I was in quiet Riot and Tracy guns and was opening up for us. And we went outside the hotel and him and I signed 20 or 30, shrinking violet records. It was just really odd. When you're in another country, and I was just kind of marveling at that.

Chuck Shute:

That's totally cool. See is kind of like a little bit of a cult following, I think. Yeah. But yeah, I think it's interesting, too, that Steve Riley called you for LA guns when he started doing his version. And he offered you to job to come sing for him?

Jizzy Pearl:

He did. Well, yeah. But again, I had already been in a situation where there were two la guns is and it was just, you know, I didn't want to deal with that. Again, this sort of this. He said, she said or he said he said, thing. You know what I mean? And I just didn't want to do it. I mean, I really liked the songs. I'm a big fan of their catalogue. Yeah. But I just I didn't want to

Chuck Shute:

do that again. For sure. Yeah. But then you join rat. And that's really cool. I had karate on. And he and I've talked to Steven piercey, too. I've had him on the show. But karate said like there was like so much dysfunction in that band that him and Robbie crane there'd be an argument and Robbie crane would leave and go get a sandwich and come back and they'd still be fighting. Did you see any of that when you were there? Or was it? Was it not as much because Pearcey wasn't obviously in the band when you were there?

Unknown:

Yeah, there was fighting there was fighting. A lot of arguments are over stupid shit. You know, I mean, like, when I in 2007, I got the love hate guys back together. And we did a small UK tour. And the argument started again between the bass player and drummer. And I noticed I was in the van. And I noticed that they were all old arguments. You know what I mean? They were all stuff that those guys were saying to each other 25 years. ago just the same dumb stuff. And that's kind of how the Ratt thing was is those guys had been together so long and didn't get along. And it was just kind of, bickering. A lot of that stuff. So yeah, I mean, it's just for me, it was a great gig. And it was fun. And so I just kind of stayed out of it. That's smart.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, I'd never been in a band so that's just pretty commonplace though. Is there a lot of bands that are like that where there's a lot of dysfunction and arguments and just bickering? Course course what is it about like, Is it about like, I think my drum should be louder or is it those kinds of things about the music is about totally things that are totally different.

Unknown:

That and 100 other stupid I mean, the setlist arguing over what song should be here on what song should be here and, and where's my coconut water? Who stole my ice tea? When you're on a tour bus, it's a very confined space. And sometimes, the way people brush their teeth can piss you off. I mean, especially when you're I mean, when I was in rehab, we went out for months. At a time we toured for months. And I wouldn't come home for three months from being on a bus. I mean, our I didn't even recognize my house anymore. No, I mean, so. So yeah, I mean, it's just it, but there were also a lot of really awesome times. And, Warren demartini, obviously, is a amazing guitar player. So I mean, yeah, I got to stand on stage with that dude every night and just look over and go, wow, you know what I mean? I'm on stage with this, this legendary dude.

Chuck Shute:

For sure. So it sounds like it's kind of like having three or four wives that you're having to deal with? In some ways,

Jizzy Pearl:

I suppose. I suppose. I mean, it's not all it's, it's a lot of good. But yeah, there's there's that bickering and the nonsense too?

Chuck Shute:

Sure. So tell me about you joined quiet riot in 2013. And then you quit to do solo work, then you rejoin now you're back in it. So tell me about quiet? Right? You're Alex grossie. I've had him on the show. He's great. And tell me what it's like working with quiet, right?

Jizzy Pearl:

Well, it's it's weird not having Frankie banally around. Obviously, you know, for the last year of his life, we were doing gigs. He had gotten enough strength to where he was doing gigs. And that was really awesome. But then, at a certain point, he couldn't do that. So I mean, you know, it's, it's the brand and it's the band carrying on, and the music in the catalog? are what people want to hear. Oh, you know, yeah, we just, we just try and do our best, you know, I mean, we don't, we don't. Like I said this in interviews before. It's just, you know, I'm not. I'm not the original guy. It was never my original band. You know what I mean? So I'm just trying to do the best I can with those songs that were written and have such you know, good. name recognition with fans. For sure. Yeah. And

Chuck Shute:

you guys have a new record coming out, though. With Frankie playing the drums on it. Correct? Yeah, there's some stuff being done. Some stuff we're working on. That's exciting. And then also tell me about your, your solo career now? Because you have I heard the new single. Oh, gosh, what soul Mama, I just listen, I've listened to a few times really catchy tune. And the new records called hell, California. It's gonna be out sometime in the next few months.

Jizzy Pearl:

Probably January or February of next year. Okay. And, yeah, I mean, it's a golden robot. Record, Australian label. And, yeah, you know, it's a good record. I mean, I'm proud of it. So yeah, there's another single coming out, I think a couple of weeks.

Chuck Shute:

Okay. So, yeah, so it's good. So what is golden robot? They've got some great artists that that I am a fan of Anyways, what did they provide in terms of support? I mean, obviously, it's not as big as Columbia, Sony, Sony back in the day, but they still do some marketing for you and help out. They provided the money to make the record. Okay, well, that's something right.

Jizzy Pearl:

That's a big thing. And, and, yeah, they're gonna do their thing. I mean, you know, the whole, the Spotify, the ads, the blah blah, blah. I mean, Just record labels aren't what they used to be, just like, musicians don't tour the way they used to. You know, I mean, they just now bands like us do fly out dates we leave on a Thursday and come home on a Sunday. You know, and that's, that's how you do it, you know, and and you show up and the gears already there you don't bring your own drums and amps and stuff. You just, you know, I mean, that's all provided for you. And you plug in and soundcheck and play.

Chuck Shute:

Is that kind of your main gig right now is doing quite right gigs or do you have other stuff going on too?

Jizzy Pearl:

Well, obviously the books but my other gig is this. Okay. d t, t t t t t t t.

Chuck Shute:

Let's talk about the books. Yeah, let's talk more about it. So that like I said, the one I got you sent me was unhappy endings. I mean, there's like so much random, like weird shitness book like, you talk about pharmaceutical companies. overmedicating people can trails. You tell talk about how you used to write reviews for porn magazines? I mean, there's so much What's your favorite part? I don't know. I mean, I just did the whole thing is just like, you're not you're definitely not bored reading this book.

Jizzy Pearl:

Well, like the whole point thing was just a fluke. I got a call when I when I wasn't in LA guns anymore. And I was looking for a gig and the guy, a guy called me out of the blue and knew that I was a writer and said, Would you like to be the editor of Aino magazine? And I mean, just How weird is that? You know what I mean? And

Chuck Shute:

even as a guy who played in a band, you're you got kind of eventually you got grossed out by this, right?

Jizzy Pearl:

I got into rat, and I was touring. And they were saying to me, well, you can bring this stuff on the road with a laptop, and you can still do this and sing. But it just it it reached the point where, I mean, literally, I'd be doing I'd had this horrible pictorials and guys would walk up to me and go, what the fuck is this? And you're like, I'm working. Yeah, it was a little embarrassing. And so I just thought, you know, maybe I'll just do the music thing again and, and put away the porn.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, cuz when you're in rad, that's probably paying the bills enough where you don't need to do that, right?

Jizzy Pearl:

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's other stories. There's other stories in there, too, where we're, I was a driver for strippers at night. You know, one of those guys that that waited until the bars led out. And then these guys would call the escort service like in a free press magazine. And you had to show up at their apartment or their hotel room and, and the woman would finagle money out of the guy and then, you know, you just run for your life when you've got his money.

Chuck Shute:

It sounds like Sir, there was some crazy stuff like I think was I think this might have been one of your other books. But I heard you talking about it, where you guys were the rainbow famous bar and the Sunset Strip. And there was like, a mafia guy tried to sell your ex wife into a white suit. He wanted to sell on the white slavery or something like that.

Jizzy Pearl:

Well, it's sort of facetious. He had girls with him. And the girls that he had with him look like girls that were hostage, you know what I mean? He probably he probably had their passports. I mean, this is what pimps do. You know, they take women's passports, so they can and if they if they're from another country, they can't speak English too well, and they sort of forced them into prostitution or whatever. But I mean, he just his manner when he approached me was you must be a pimp, too, because you've got to ladies, you know what I mean? And so I'm weird. And so I just kind of you know, backed off because there are mafioso types that hang out at the rainbow. You know what I mean? And so I just backed off and I said it's time to get the fuck out of here.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, I guess that's the best thing to do in those situations. Unlike your your TV show ideas to that was another part of the unhappy endings. cannibal Island and Amber Alert. Like, I mean, people if you have a sick sense of humor, I do. So I understand where it's a joke, but do you are you ever worried about people canceling these books for being too dirty or too,

Jizzy Pearl:

I suppose. I mean, I should be so lucky that I should Be so damn popular

Chuck Shute:

that you could be cancelable

Jizzy Pearl:

that there's a cancel campaign directed against me. You know, I mean, I just, I think that a lot of people that know me know that I am sort of eccentric and not your usual cookie cutter, singer songwriter. So I think some some of this stuff is probably a little shocking. But it's just, it's just fun and games. You know what I mean? It's just, it's, I don't know, it's just the way I write it. You know, I mean, stuff i think is funny stuff, I think is shocking. You know what I mean? And that's kind of, I don't know, I mean, I guess I have to stand behind it. You know, so.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, no, it's great stuff. So there's a fourth book coming out. There's a new solo record. And then you got gigs with quiet, right. So you're gonna be pretty busy. Yeah, yeah. It's all good. It's all sounds great. We're doing good here. Yeah, awesome. Well, I do like to end each episode with a charity. Is there one that you want to give a shout out to or anything any cause that you

Jizzy Pearl:

want to tell people? One of the best charities that there is, and I mean, I'm not, you know, savvy on all charities. The style of the Salvation Army gives 93% of all the money that you know, the guys out front with the little red bucket, they give 93% of all the money to charity, whereas a thing like susan b komen, the breast cancer thing, I think they give less than 20%. Oh, is that sad? Yeah. And I heard bonobos, bonobos. Charity gave only 3% Oh, my God, I wasn't even legal. I don't know. So I mean, I just know that a lot of these charities don't really aren't very charitable. Yeah. So but I know the Salvation Army is and so around holiday time, I always give them a bunch of money. Okay, because, because I know that it's gonna go for homeless or Yeah,

Chuck Shute:

we're supposed to go exactly. Well, okay. I'll put that in the notes along with your website. People can order your books and keep an eye out for your music and obviously, for quiet Riot shows. Hopefully, you guys aren't coming to Phoenix. Oh, yeah. Sometime, I suppose. Okay. I didn't see the tour dates yet. But uh, if you come down here, I'll come check out I'd love to see you guys see Alex to be fun. Okay. All right, man. Well, thanks so much. I appreciate it. I'll talk to you later. Okay, man. All right. Bye. Bye. All right. jizzy Pearl, he's the man his website jizzy pearl dotnet. It's in the show notes. And it's got everything you need there. You can order the books, you can find all his social media links and more. So my website is in the show notes as well. And it's got all my social media and I don't even have anything to sell you at the moment. Everything there is for free. As always, I appreciate your support on social media and YouTube with likes, comments and shares. That really helps me out. Have a great rest of your day. Thank you for listening and remember, shoot for the moon.