Liz Glazer (comedian, actress, writer)

Liz Glazer is a comedian, actress, writer and former law professor.  She has a new stand up special titled "A Very Particular Experience" out May 12th and available for pre-order now.  We discuss the new special plus writing comedy material, social media and comedy clips, her twitter getting hacked and so much more!  

0:00:00 - Intro
0:00:38 - Coffee & Energy
0:01:46 - Twitter Hacked
0:04:01 - Social Media & Clips
0:07:20 - Heckler Clip
0:12:40 - Why Clips Are Great
0:14:58 - New Material & Energy
0:16:10 - Comedy Competitions
0:25:40 - New Special & Difficult Material
0:40:25 - People Experiencing Loss
0:46:35 - Shiva
0:49:57-  Comedy Special Audience & Making Of
0:58:02 - Emotional Roller Coaster
0:59:35 -  Comedy Connections, Success  & Genuine
1:09:00 - March of Dimes
1:09:45 - TV Show
1:10:43 - Outro

Liz Glazer website:
http://www.dearlizglazer.com/

March of Dimes website:
https://www.marchofdimes.org/

Chuck Shute website:
https://chuckshute.com/

Transcript

Chuck Shute: 0:00

Comedian Liz Glazer is back on the program and if you remember her from Episode 21, she is the former law professor turn stand up comedian, very smart and kind woman and she has a new standard special out May 12, titled a very particular experience that is very funny and also emotional and very powerful. So we're going to talk about the special her Twitter getting hacked, winning comedy, competition, social media success, and much much more. Coming right up.

Liz Glazer: 0:40

Hi, oh, how are you?

Chuck Shute: 0:44

Good. How are you?

Liz Glazer: 0:45

Good. This is nice. I remember the first time we did a podcast it was on the phone. And that's what I thought it was that and then I you know, didn't see the zoom.

Chuck Shute: 0:57

Yeah. Wow. This is the most low energy I've ever seen you okay. Yeah. Usually, you're just like bouncing off the walls like, Hey, how's it going? Like, oh, yeah,

Liz Glazer: 1:07

no, I mean, I'm fine. I haven't had coffee yet. I don't know. Coffee is like, the reason for my energy. Maybe it's possible.

Chuck Shute: 1:19

I just remember that story of you doing the 18 shots of espresso.

Liz Glazer: 1:23

Yes. I mean, that's, that's accurate. Yeah, thank you for reminding me of that. I needed to be reminded of that.

Chuck Shute: 1:33

Yeah. Well, I listen. I was listening to a podcast and I heard that story. And I was like, Wow, that's crazy. And then I was like, Wait, that sounds kind of familiar. I was like, I think we talked about this. On the other Sunday, I listened to our first podcast, I was like, oh, yeah, we didn't talk about that. I was like, Yeah, that was a cool story. I was gonna ask you that. I was looking at your Twitter. Is your Twitter hacked?

Liz Glazer: 1:49

Yeah. I mean, so it's like, I was told that I've been tweeting about cryptocurrency, like once an hour, and I'm like, anyone who knows me would know, I would only do that once a day. But

Chuck Shute: 2:04

it was like saw one. I was like, this doesn't sit and then I kept looking. Okay, she got hacked. Like, I was like, I should tweet crypto like what?

Liz Glazer: 2:13

Okay, oh, no, I don't know anything about crypto. I imagine I probably will never know anything about crypto. But I tried to, like, do the steps of fixing it. But it takes it seems a while if ever. Yeah. But I I've been like going through the email steps to fix it.

Chuck Shute: 2:35

Do you know how that happened? I feel like that's been happening to more and more people.

Liz Glazer: 2:40

Yeah, I mean, I don't exactly but from what I can understand, from my end, I got a notification that someone in Lithuania was on my Twitter. And then they changed whoever that might have been changed the email address associated with the Twitter, so then I couldn't get in to fix it or anything like that. So yeah, it's, I mean, I was never much of a tweeter. So it's not a huge loss. But you know, I'm trying to get it back.

Chuck Shute: 3:18

Yeah, I feel like that's huge. For comedians. That's a huge thing. Even for me with a podcast, because if you can get the guest to retweet the episode, like that's how a lot of them get a lot more exposure. See if

Liz Glazer: 3:29

this person in Lithuania will retweet the episode. You never know. Yeah. And then maybe, crypto,

Chuck Shute: 3:37

if I mentioned something about like, and also you could get this cool crypto with your profile pictures, like a robot to like to hide it. Like I'm surprised I haven't changed your name or whatever.

Liz Glazer: 3:48

Yeah, I mean, and it's like, I don't like I care. Kind of, but I think I would care a little bit more. If I used Twitter more.

Chuck Shute: 4:01

Yeah, yeah. Well, no Instagram and YouTube. I know. I've seen clips on there. A little bit Facebook. I think you're on Tik Tok, too, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's like, is that a big one for? That's like, I feel like that's for most comedians. Yeah.

Liz Glazer: 4:15

I mean, I, I don't know that I'm any kind of model in terms of online presence. I kind of just, you know, do enough. That, like, I feel like I did something and I've tried to be a little more on the ball about it, because it's like, okay, well, this is, you know, I'm not trying to like deny the future. I just don't love being online. Really? Why? Um, I don't know. I don't know that I've ever really perceived it to be a connective environment for me. But it's a good question. You know, it's just like I that was Never my thing as a kid really, or anything, so, yeah, I guess maybe that's why but I get I'm not, I, I'm trying to, you know what it is like, for me with being online, I recognize that it's like the necessary thing for my career, right. So to a degree, I can care about stuff like that. But I'm weird in terms of how I perceive my career. Because if it gets to be something where I'm so focused on success, I feel almost allergic to it. Because it reminds me too much of what things were like when I was in law. Because when I was in law, everything was so goal oriented, and it was like, Okay, we got to get tenure, we got to get the paper placed in this journal, we got, you know, and all this stuff. And I was very good at that. Because I was trained to be like, the incentives were like, Okay, this is how people think you're smart, or whatever. And for a time, that was motivating to me until I quit, everything started doing this. And it's not that I'm trying to not be successful, because I'm not I want to be successful. But more. I did this, because I wanted to do something that felt free. That felt like I could express myself, you know, and without any kind of, like, need to do anything, right. Like, like, I didn't have to cover any material in the way that I did for the bar exam or something like that. And so anything that smells of requirements, is like, I hate it.

Chuck Shute: 6:50

That's interesting. Yeah. It's like, oh, I think I kind of feel the same way with the podcast, but I just, it's like the same thing with like reels, and some will do. I'll post clips of the podcast. And I feel like I almost have to though I feel like I'm like forced, I don't really enjoy editing it and like putting up but then it's like, it is cool to see people's reactions if they actually like it. And then when I when I get the clip ready. I'm like, Oh, that's a cool clip. I'm excited to share this with the world. I would assume you feel the same way about a clip of your comedy?

Liz Glazer: 7:16

Yes, sometimes. I mean, there are times when, like, I had a heckler hug me.

Chuck Shute: 7:24

I saw that I was gonna ask you about that. Yeah. So

Liz Glazer: 7:27

that clip, I was excited to post it because I edited it. Because I wanted to construct for story. Right? Because there was like, the moment that he did this. There were actually a few other moments that didn't make the cut. Because I needed to show a specific arc. But he got up again, we're also have a really like, Yeah, but it's not that he was threatening exactly like I suppose like, you know, and for anybody listening, you know, there's a clip on my Instagram, I'm at Liz Glaser. I think it is also on my Twitter. And that was right before I got hacked, but you'll you gotta sift through a lot of crypto, which, you know, maybe is enlightening for you. But basically, I was doing a show. And there was a guy heckler from the audience. About a heckler though because, yeah, fair, like an assaulter a bit in the sense that he I said I was gay, I was about to do you know, a bunch of gay jokes, which I did some of. and a version of the clip had a little bit more of the jokes. But in any event, all I needed for the clip was to set up oh, I'm a lesbian or something. To which this guy responded, Well, you haven't met me yet. And gets up, hugs me. And then I didn't know that was going to happen. I didn't feel exactly threatened by him, other than it's a person coming to stage. He's a man. That's those things are inherently threatening to me. I think it's fair to say. But other than that, like his energy didn't seem he seemed very high and slower as a result of drugs. And even though there was an element of like, What's this guy doing? For sure. I don't know that I was literally scared. You know, and I think that that helped, because then I was able to really get some zingers in which make it into the clip. Which I guess I won't spoil if you want to watch the clip.

Chuck Shute: 9:40

No, no response was perfect. But it was like it was really funny. But then like, yeah, it was obviously you were creeped out. But yeah, wasn't he kind of like hitting on you? Isn't that basically what he was? So

Liz Glazer: 9:49

I think he knew he was kidding. Right. I think he wanted to be a part of the show. And so yeah, I guess he was sitting out he did. his tummy later in the night, he came up from behind me and kissed me. But I didn't want to make Oh, the post or the story about it to like, I don't know, I'm not trying to suggest that, like, he should really own up to that I like I don't care, you know, from my perspective, because I didn't feel great in response. And I also get that it's a systemic issue with like, toxic masculinity. And in a moment like that, I think it's fair to say that, and also for my own life, I was like, Okay, this guy sucks. I don't love it. But let me do something with my creativity, edit this clip, I sent it to a friend who does captions that I like, you know, for this purpose. There are a lot of people who do great captions. And I feel like some of them are better for some projects, and some are better for other projects. This, I knew I wanted this one friend to edit it. And and then I put it up and to your point, yes, it was, it was great to see the responses. And, and that's like a fun moment. And also the moment of creativity of actually like editing together. Pieces. That's something that I want to do more of, because so much of my onstage sets, not in the album because the album is like a through line and whatever. But but also in the album, because in the album, I do a lot of crowd work specifically with that crowd that's in that audience. But normally, I don't have specifically that. But like, a lot of times I'll have a through line where I'm talking to one person in a crowd. And then something comes out as a joke. And I call back to it a few times and make that person almost, I don't know, incidentally, a part of the show because of the way that my brain is processing everything that's going on in the room. And I've been thinking to edit better, similar to how I did with the assaulter guy. Although there I knew I wanted to show certain moments. But basically, the way that I started with editing that clip was, let's do a cut of the set with every moment that has anything to do with him. And then we'll cut around, you know, okay, well, we want to make it to 59 seconds. So is that joke worth it now? Not really. Right, et cetera. And so, you know, I don't know that they would be as shocking as that specific clip. But they could be fun. You know, because I love I love fun clips, like Jeff Arcuri, who's a wonderful comedian, who I don't I don't think I know him personally. But I love his clips online, because he's such a master crowd work comedian. But he really does a lot with crowd work. That's like, almost like first story. And so there's a series on his Instagram, where he was doing a show. And there was a woman who had a dolphin laugh. I think her name was Connie. And so there's like, a three part series of clips with Connie and her dolphin laugh. And it's like really funny, because then you can engage a community that's following along. And you almost breathed new life into a show, in addition to you know, and honestly, Chuck, I have now been monologuing for at least two and a half on why the internet is amazing. After saying that I don't listen in saying my son. You know what, I need to get my Twitter back. I have a lot to say.

Chuck Shute: 13:43

Well, the Instagram Yeah, I said Greg Warren, I don't know if you're familiar with him comedian, but he was telling me like, because I followed him on Instagram a few years ago, and I had him on my show. And like he said, he didn't do any clips. And he's like, now he's like, no, no, I'm doing the clips. I'm doing the TIC TOCs. And he has some tic TOCs that have like over like a couple million views, which is insane. And I think it has helped him blow up. I feel like that's unfortunately like Love it or hate it. That's part of the game. No, no, I

Liz Glazer: 14:06

get it. I don't. I mean, that's why I'm sort of I've remained a little bit neutral on it. I'm not saying I hate it. I'm not saying love it. And it just like, I think that maybe some of it is like if it happens for you that something goes super viral. I've had like in the hundreds of 1000s before on a Tiktok Yeah, but like, it's, you know, I would say it's the kind of thing where it's like, it's not super common that said, you know, I'm not funny. No, I'm kidding. But, um, that said, I don't like do it enough to reap the benefits or I haven't. And so I think that that's also part of the game is the consistency such that, you know, people know that you're posting and so then whatever. I don't know.

Chuck Shute: 14:58

Yeah, like you fall for him. Have you know, he posts a weekly these things like he marks on stuff every week. And as the 10 minutes and it's all brand new material. And he's like, although I'm like workshopping this, I'm like, This is gold. This is like, this could be your special right here. And it's like every I'm like, how does he come up with so much material? That's gotta be hard as a comedian to come up with new stuff all the time. Right.

Liz Glazer: 15:22

Right. Well, yeah, I mean, it is. And also, I think there's a flow with it. And I think that there's something to put it out, and you'll replenish, you know, whereas if you're holding on, I don't know, I don't think this is about comedy. I think this is about literally, energy. Right? If you hold all your energy, then I think that that can prohibit you from having more energy. Whereas if you give away stuff, you can get more. I do believe that. So yeah, which isn't to discredit for him or anybody else in terms of generating material. I think it's amazing. But I also think like in terms of a principle of the universe or whatever, that that's potentially one.

Chuck Shute: 16:11

Well, yeah, so what else kind of a lot of stuff happened since we last talked to you? You've? You did some comedy competitions.

Liz Glazer: 16:18

That was before. Wow. You won

Chuck Shute: 16:21

the Boston one. And then talking about how you, you were did the Seattle one and you didn't win, but you made a bunch of connection? So that's basically a win, right?

Liz Glazer: 16:30

Well, yeah, I mean, but but but it wasn't, you know, but yes, I've been back to Seattle. I have first, right. I headlined my first club ever in Seattle. Recently. One because I'm from Seattle, if you remember that, Oh, yeah. Club comedy, Seattle. Oh, that must be new. Yeah, I don't think that was there. It's great. It's a great club. I really love it. And my vision has not been to tour like a ton. I've never desired that exactly. I like traveling. But if I could have it my way, I would be writing for television, and doing stand up in where I live, which is the New York area. And I would travel like a few times a year. So let's say 10 to 15 trips a year, where I'm like, because I do clubs. But I also this has been since we talked I do a lot of law schools and law firms and synagogues. Yeah, those shows are super interesting and fun for me, because I really have like, you know, a pretty big part of myself, that's a former lawyer and law professor, and an equally big part of myself, which is Jewish, because I not only am Jewish, but I also I'm married to a rabbi, I went to Orthodox Jewish Day School, so I have a lot of it in me. And so it's fun, because at those shows, I'm able to really go hard on topics like that. And then to see what of those topics is translatable to general audiences, but it's like through, you know, talking about having been a lawyer for 45 minutes at the shows that I can then glean, like, okay, you know, I actually think that that story could be framed slightly differently, but it's really about anxiety, right? Or something like that. Or it's really about, like, I talk. I mean, my North Star when I do law school shows and law firm shows is, what was I too ashamed and afraid to say? When I was in that world? That's like, really where I start from, and it's not that different from how I start writing for anything, because I really talk very confessional and personally and about you no shame, and stuff. That's hard. That's the stuff that I like to bring out, you know, for comedy, but like, yeah, as the reason I'm hesitating is I'm like, Oh, what have you been up to? That's something that I wonder, too, because it has been a while, but I get that that's like a different topic. So what have you been up to? Oh, me? Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 19:20

Oh, nobody cares about me. I've just been doing the pie. That's the Yeah, you're like, I've done like, 340 these guests. You know, it's funny. So, you know, one of the few people who was interested in me was David to company. I was like, Dude, he's this huge star. And I had him on and he's he's asking me about stuff on my wall. He's like, Oh, what do you got? I'm like, what you're interested in me. I was like, You're David Duke money. And it's like, then you realize like, that's how these people make it is because they're just so inquisitive. They're smart. They're so personable. Like, he's so likable. You're like, you could see why he became a big star. He's like, I mean, yeah, he's a good looking guy, too. I'm sure he can act. He's really Mark. Oh, yeah, he's just so likable. But yeah, what have I been up to? I mean, gosh, the whole like, it's funny. Last we talked, it was right before the pandemic, right. So then that shit went down. So

Liz Glazer: 20:10

we caused it. We did. Yeah. By talking.

Chuck Shute: 20:14

Probably it was the Yeah, it's possible. I mean, anything's didn't you signal because I heard you say you, you caused it because you were wishing the universe for like, some downtime or something, you got some downtime. So yeah, that's what I mean, I just there was like a pandemic happened. And then I was like, Okay, I guess I'll just focus on my podcast. And then I just started, because I think when I had you on, I was doing like, one a week. And then I started doing like, two or three a week, and I've just been really trying to focus and give it like a real like, Okay, I'm really gonna put all my energy into this and see what happens. And so, yeah,

Liz Glazer: 20:52

that's wonderful. I'm glad to hear that. And you know that I'm a huge fan of everything your father taught you about doing your homework. So I really appreciate that interview. And now this interview, and then just to answer the rest of the question that you asked, like, Yeah, after Seattle, literally a loss in terms of competition, but I think it did teach me a lot about how to compete in comedy contests, because I won Boston. And then I also won ladies of laughter, which is like another big one for women, obviously, really, in short succession, one after another. And it, you know, that really helped my life in a variety of ways. It's probably, I mean, arguably, still one of my biggest credits, you know, a lot of times like when someone's like, Oh, what do you want me to say? I'll say, you know, one, one of those or whatever. So it's no small thing, in terms of that. And in terms of my personal achievement with it, I think like after doing Seattle, you're right, that I did well, in some ways, and I made friends, and have been able to go back to Seattle, on the basis of the friends that I made and what they think of me and my comedy, and that's great. And it was also a real eye opener in terms of like, okay, this kind of thing, these like competitions where you do five minutes. This is strategy, right? This is, what jokes can I get out as quickly as possible, with as little setup, but I have to seem like a person and I have to be, you know, not a robot that's hacking my Twitter, right? Like, I can just be. I mean, I suppose you could be sort of a joke robot, if that's like your persona. But I've never been that way. I've always been more conversational. And so the trick is to like, figure out how to take all that and smush it into a set that's not only short, but that has to like, win. Like you're being graded, right? Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 23:05

No, I remember I was. I used to go to a lot of Seattle comedy clubs, and there was this comedian, and he did this joke. And I loved it. It was so funny. He said, he was like talking about how he had hit. He's like, Oh, he's like, I'm trying to make the red light when I'm driving, or trying to hit the green lights when I'm driving is like, oh, no, I hit the red light. And now I gotta now I got to stop and stare at the homeless guy and feel bad. And I was like, Oh, that is so funny. And I and so I saw him at a comedy competition. I said, are you doing that joke about the homeless guy? And he goes, he's like, he got his notes. He goes, No, maybe I should. And then he did it. And it didn't do well. And I was like, I felt so bad. But isn't that part of it? It's just like, you don't know what's gonna do well with one audience?

Liz Glazer: 23:45

Right? Yeah, totally. And some of it is about like, Yeah, I mean, that's definitely true. And sometimes jokes just don't hit. And also, you know, obviously, there's like a lot of work that can be done around like putting it in the right order that it gives it the highest chance of success. And, you know, there's also something to being in an environment where people are ready to hear joke joke joke, like they are in a five minutes competition. And I think the same is true, you know, for late night set. A lot of people who do late night, obviously are practicing before and what I've heard, I've never done late night, I would love to do late night. And now I'm in a phase of like, kind of trying to think of okay, well, which of my jokes would I do, were I to get on late night. And I you know, I don't know I'm sure I've overthought it a million different ways. But what I've heard people say is that when they're practicing, when they're running their staff that they know they're going to do on the television show that tapes in three days, let's say and they're going around and doing it. A lot of times they bomb because those audience CES are not thinking, Oh, I'm gonna hear five minutes that's like semi autobiographical or, you know, whatever the audience for a late night set is primed to hear. So I think that in addition, it's like sometimes people can just not relate. But sometimes it's like, they're just looking for different stuff right there. They're ready to hear something that's a little bit different from the kind of thing that uh, when you the Seattle International Comedy competition, or the Boston Comedy Festival, or ladies of laughter or, you know, Tonight Show set, like they're just different things, right?

Chuck Shute: 25:39

Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, obviously, like, I mean, you're your new special. It's really interesting, because it's a, I liked it. But there is some stuff in there that is very dark. I don't think some of those jokes would work on late night.

Liz Glazer: 25:53

Oh, yeah. No, it definitely wouldn't work on late night. Yeah. So

Chuck Shute: 25:56

how do you shop that? Those kinds of jokes like? Obviously, you didn't just get up there and do I mean, you've been workshopping these jokes for a long time. But when you're writing a dark joke about, you know, the stillbirth of your child? Is it something where you're like, Oh, that's too dark? Or do you just let everything go and try it in the open mic and just see what hits?

Liz Glazer: 26:17

Well, if I were doing an open mic, I definitely wouldn't care. But in Show Settings, and it's an interesting, it's a good question for this album, in particular, because I knew that I wanted to do an album about grief, we had experienced the stillbirth of our first daughter, Leo, in November of 2021, my wife and I experienced that in real life. And as a result of that experience, I didn't like that happened November 10, of 2021. I canceled everything through the end of that year. Because it was an extremely shocking, jarring moment, except for one set that I taped, where I had, like a lot of jokes that I had written in the hospital, basically, because I didn't know what else to do, you know, and it was like, a couple days after it happened. I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna, like, say, write this stuff down. And, and then when I got back into doing stand up, you know, like, a stand up comedian with regularity, whatever. Yeah, it was hard to not only get back from grieving, which I think was part of it. But also, to get those jokes to a place where people were ready to hear about them. It didn't always work, for sure. But I knew that I wanted to make something about that moment. And so I, you know, like, I didn't do any of that material. For example, when I was like, auditioning for the seller, right, which was like something that happened between the stillbirth and the album recording. And so it's not like, in every situation, I would use those jokes, because those were the jokes that I was working on. I was also working kind of concurrently on other stuff, which I think I'm quite happy with how that ended up in the album. Because I think that one of the things that I really like about it is my own propensity for distraction, I think, is an asset on the album, because it ends up being a lot of comedic relief, because I end up talking about other stuff that's autobiographical, and that has nothing to do with grief or stillbirth. As a way, not to I didn't even do it consciously, but it was kind of like everybody knew why they were there. So number one, that helps. And number two, I was doing an hour for the recording. And so I wanted to do other stuff, but also other stuff kind of felt relevant to say in the moment, right. And that has nothing to do with death and nothing to do with, you know, the death of my first child. Like it. Yeah, so. So I guess like, at the time that I was working on this material, this material comprised the difficult material and also the very benign not having anything to do with death, let alone stillbirth. Right. The other thing is, I was doing a lot of like, synagogues. And so I had some of the stuff about my dad's staff that I workshopped in those settings, which I think is like, I mean, my dad was a 73 year old man. It's never death is never something that's easy to process or talk about. But I think when you're comparing the death of a baby To the death of a 73 year old man with heart disease, there is something that's like easier to talk about, like your dad dying, as opposed to a baby dying, God forbid. And so I was happy to have had some of those like synagogue shows to thought to do some of those jokes about my dad dying, which at the time, were more difficult and then once I was doing stillbirth jokes, I was like, Oh, these are nothing like in terms of difficulty, right? Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 30:30

yeah, no, I wanted my condolences for your stillbirth your father and then I think I also your cat died. Mona. Mona. Yeah. It's all kind of like in a bunched.

Liz Glazer: 30:41

Right. And thank you. And the purpose of having those in the album recording was really the through line being that the way that if somebody God forbid, has a stillbirth, the grief of that is very confusing. Because yeah, it's really sad. It's super shocking. It's medically scary. And also, you didn't know this person, necessarily, like they didn't live, but they did exist. And there's also this like death of hope. Right? It's sort of this abstract grief. And so I knew that I wanted to bring in Mona and my dad, because I had some things to say about them. And also because I wanted to contrast those types of grieving with the grief that attends stillbirth, because I think there's something interesting to say about grief in comparing and contrasting those different types.

Chuck Shute: 31:47

Yeah, know how I don't know, like, or if you're a Howard Stern fan, but if you saw that movie, right parts were and his wife had a miscarriage, and then talks about it on the radio. Right? Then she gets pissed. She's like, that was private. So do you have to, like run these kinds of jokes, but through your wife or like, kind of like, Is this okay to do? Like, how does that work?

Liz Glazer: 32:07

Yeah, I mean, you know, first of all, I love Howard and I saw private parts many times in the theater. I saw it many times. And I've seen it many times since I I'm a big fan of Howard. I don't know. Yeah, I have it on

Chuck Shute: 32:19

my show. And if you really, yeah, he's a fan of my show, which I was like, Wow, that's crazy.

Liz Glazer: 32:24

That's awesome. Yeah, I love him. So. Okay. In terms of that with my wife, it hasn't been an issue, I think, because, you know, and for people who may listen to the album, like, I think the jokes are pretty tasteful. Like, and I'm pretty clear to, to very much be talking about my own experience. And, and there's like, kind of one joke that, like, one could argue is distasteful, and I even have a tag for it. I won't do the joke, but I will do the tag right now. And you'll get it. And if somebody listens to the album, then they can get it. Which is that if you're offended by that joke, I just want to remind you that it happened to me, not you. And you don't understand how good I looked in this photo. Oh, yeah. So I'm not setting it up. But I'm not setting it up on purpose, in case somebody listens to it. So that's really the only joke that's like, at all, like, potentially offensive. I think everything else

Chuck Shute: 33:35

opening joke was like, I was like, I laughed, but I was like, oh, gosh, that was that was, it was great. I mean, I loved it. But I can you know, I can see how some, but it's like you say it's like, yeah, this is your experience. So and you're not making light of it. I heard your time talking to Mike Kaplan. It was interesting how you guys talked about not making light of things, but shining? What are what was the expression of

Liz Glazer: 33:58

adding light on something? And, you know, that was something that Mike said to me when I was doing some of this material? Because I was like, Well, how am I going to do it? It's so dark. And he's like, Yeah, but you're shedding light on it. And I, I really appreciated that. And it was very encouraging. Because it's not that like, I mean, you know, not that you're saying this, I feel like I'm debating someone who is fictional in this moment, but like, like, to the person potentially the interlocutor who's like, you shouldn't joke about stillbirth. And by the way, that's not a hypothetical. Like, it's literally happened to me. And also, by the way, for me, the people who've come to me and been like, you really shouldn't joke about it, are people who experienced it. And we're like, well, I experienced it, and I didn't say anything for 10 years. And I'm like, how did that work out for you? And now you're like, you know, coming at As someone who is saying something about it, and being like, this is bad to say I, like for me, I'm always like, I think it's better to talk about something. And I think that's true for literally everything. And for me, I mean, I talk a lot about the Holocaust in the album, because I do think that like, you know, I mean, the sort of argumentative reason that it's on the album, is because I have such inherited trauma, four out of four of my grandparents survived the Holocaust. That's true. And I talk about like the, you know, intricacies of some of that trauma in funny stories and some jokes on the album. But the reason that I think it's, it's relevant to this set of topics for me, is because I've always been so preoccupied with death. And I really had this catch me off guard and by surprise, and so I think that that's one of the elements of stillbirth is like that it is like this, it's supposed to be the happiest moment of your life, and then it's the saddest, and how confusing is that. And those are ways in which are that is a way that it's different from, like, regular death in some way, like, and again, I mean, God forbid, death is horrible, surprising, death is really horrible. And also, there's something unique, I think about the moment of having a baby, which are like, Oh, my God, life, and I'm gonna believe in God, and everything's beautiful. It's sort of like being on drugs in real life kind of thing. And you're expecting this overflowing of happiness. And then you're that specific moment is shattered by this surprise, grief. And so. So that's really all I'm trying to express. It's not this is worse than that. It's not an oppression Olympics thing. It's just the reality that it is really different, right, and sad, and tragic, and systemic, problematic in the healthcare system, et cetera, all of those things. And also emotionally, these are the things that have made me think and feel. And so I have had people who are like, you really shouldn't joke about it. And I, I say to those people, like, Listen, if I was doing jokes that were belittling it, or making a joke out of it, I get it, but I'm not. And so because of that, what I hope is not I mean, for me, I knew I wanted to do this, because it happened to me, and this is how I process stuff. And also, in terms of your question about my wife, she was totally fine with it. She was, you know, I mean, my wife is a rabbi, she did her Yom Kippur War sermon about the experience. And so this is like, collectively as a family, I think how we process stuff, we're writers and performers, essentially, a rabbi is and a comedian is, and so, you know, I think that like both of us to each other, or just like, Go forth, and like, make something expressive and hopefully helpful out of this terrible experience, because the experience is what it is, you know, and the other thing on the Holocaust is, like, I grew up in a family because of the background with the Holocaust, like my grandparents hid. So it was a lot of secrets and hiding that were necessary in order to stay alive. You know, that's like, literally what my ancestry is about. And my parents, and this is it. You know, I think that this is reasonable for them. really did a lot of that in their life. They're like, listen, we don't want to air our dirty laundry like that was very much kind of like the way I grew up is like, keep things a secret. You never know who's listening who might come out to get you. Right, which makes sense, given their ancestry, where they were hiding from literal Nazis. Yeah. But for me, the next generation, I take it in a really different way. I'm like, listen, mommy, Papa, I get it. And I get what Grandma and Grandpa, you know, and Bubba Gagnon did Ameesha were like kind of working with and I don't feel that way, like scared of spilling secrets. And I think that that's an asset because it's kind of like, what did they hide for? If only for me to be secretive? I want to be loud. I want to, you know, spill secrets that eat me up, because I don't have to hide for my literal survival. Right. And so recognizing that I don't have to hide for my survival is an invitation I take it as one to process out loud.

Chuck Shute: 40:22

Wow, yeah, there's a lot to unpack there. That's, yeah. It's you're basically saying that it's helping you to talk about and expressing?

Liz Glazer: 40:32

Yeah. And I, what I hope is that it can be that for other people, you know, who have experienced loss of all kinds, but pregnancy loss, perhaps in particular. And I've heard from people who have who have said that I imagine I'll hear from people who've experienced it, who think differently, which is, you know, just the, the reality of putting out something that's like, risky in some way.

Chuck Shute: 41:04

Yeah, no, my brother and his wife, they that I think it was their fourth or fifth child that it wasn't a stillbirth. Like, they had the baby and some sort of issue. And the baby was like an ICU for like, I don't know, a month or something. Then it passed. And I mean, it's just a terrible, terrible tragedy. But my sister in law, I mean, she kind of like took your, I mean, she's not a comedian, but she posted a lot of things on Instagram about that. And I know there was like hashtags and things, and I think she was trying to go other people cope with that by talking about it, because it is a hard thing to talk about. It's interesting. You say, there's some people that said I didn't talk about it for 10 years. I'm like, wow, that's like the other end of the extreme. I think so.

Liz Glazer: 41:46

Yeah. And I mean, you know, I really don't think that there's like, a right way and a wrong way. I guess the only thing I perceive to be kind of wrong in those situations is I don't, I know that I wouldn't come at someone and be like, Hi, I think you're doing it wrong. I wouldn't do that. But her point. Yeah. But I mean, you know, everybody has a right to say whatever. You know, that's the beauty of it. But

Chuck Shute: 42:21

yeah, so like for somebody because this was my thing, like, and I think I feel this way about Most Greek, but especially something like that, is that I was just like, as a person, like, Okay, this is my brother, how do I, what do I do? Like, how do I support him? Do I, you know, this is the thing, like where I go, I play it out in my head. I'm like, okay, maybe I need to give them space. And then it's like, no, maybe, like, I shouldn't give them space. Maybe I should reach out and then, like, play all these scenarios. I'm like, I don't know what the right move is.

Liz Glazer: 42:49

Yeah. And I don't know that I do either. And I think you know, different people are different, you know. And first of all, I'm very sorry for your brother and sister in law in your family. That's a terrible loss. Yeah. So. And yeah, I don't I don't know that there's anything that is the way in grief. I'm certainly no expert on this or much else. But I guess like, I, for a time in my life. I feel like when I was still practicing, not that this has anything to do with law, but like, for whatever. I think I was just a little less comfortable in myself, that I was always worried about saying the wrong thing. And I stopped worrying about that. Like,

Chuck Shute: 43:42

how do you do that? This is gonna be gold right here. This is what I know.

Liz Glazer: 43:45

Yeah, I mean, just because, like, I really trust that I am a good person and a nice person. You are and thanks and you chalk truly

Chuck Shute: 43:58

trying trying to be.

Liz Glazer: 44:01

But like, I, I don't I guess maybe in the old days when I was trying to say the right thing. I think rather than just say something, expressing love. I tried to put it through a filter of like, well, what should I say in this moment, and I stopped, I just I'm like, This is my friend. This is my family member. This is my loved one. I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna like, I don't know. Just say what's honest for me, in this moment, and like, listen, you're a great listener, you know, like, I think I'm a good listener too. And I think that I turn that on, when someone's grieving for sure. And then, you know, like, I share, I try to about what's happening for me Usually, because I feel like sometimes people are like, Oh, well, I should just like keep, I either shouldn't talk about the grief at all. Or I should only talk about the grief. And it's like, well, what if you just like said something innocuous that happened to you earlier today, and the person will interrupt you with stories of their loved one or whatever, because it's really just, I think creating an environment where someone's like, comfortable and something feels a little bit normal. Like I remember from tigs live album, that it was like when she had the cancer diagnosis. People were like, afraid to say what was happening in their day. Because they will be like, oh, there was such traffic. And it's like, oh, well, I was wasn't cancer. And she's like, just tell me about your dumb day. Like, that's what I want, you know? And I think, I mean, everybody's different. Like that said, somebody could be like, Why were you doing this? And it's like, I don't know, I think that that person is probably like, gonna get mad at you, no matter what. If that's like, the attitude, that's fine. But like, you know, I really try not to worry about saying the wrong thing.

Chuck Shute: 46:10

Is that are you saying for grief? Are you saying for everything life?

Liz Glazer: 46:14

No, no. For grief. Okay. And like hard moments? Like, how do you how are you going to be there for someone in a hard moment? And I think the answer is really so simple, which is just be there.

Chuck Shute: 46:27

Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah.

Liz Glazer: 46:28

I think,

Chuck Shute: 46:30

yeah, I was gonna ask you this about the special too, because one of the things you mentioned is Shiva. And I had to google that. I was like, Oh, I dated a Jewish girl for like a year, but I didn't know. So the Shiva is it just so people know. So they get the joke. It's a week long. This is a week long mourning period. In Judaism for first degree relatives. There's like a ritual.

Liz Glazer: 46:55

Yeah, yeah. So Shiva, is it? Sorry, not? Oh, no, it's fine. translates to the word seven. And yeah, it's a week of sitting and kind of getting people who are expressing their condolences. At over the pandemic, there was like zoom Shiva. Jessica Kirson, has like really funny jokes about zoom Shiva, for I believe it's her father's death. And that happened during the pandemic. We also my dad died during the pandemic, and we also had zoom Shiva. But I didn't have specific jokes about it, but But yeah, it's just sitting in like being with the person. And in terms of like, the commandments, about the rituals, which, you know, because it's a religious thing. It's like, there are people who, well, this is funny, this isn't my story, but it's a funny story. So there's a thing you're supposed to say, especially if you're Orthodox Jewish, to someone at a Shiva, which it starts with Hamas calm, you're not same. And it's like this, this Hebrew phrase, that basically means like, you should become further comforted, rather among the mourners of Zion, and whatever you're supposed to say this and so people who are really observant, sometimes we'll like hunt you down to like, be like, I'm not gonna be a contender, or whatever. And like, then you're like, so, but my friend, Robin told me this story, and I don't even know if it happened to her or whatever. But it was like someone who went to a Shiva, and it was like an orthodox Shiva. There. People were saying that phrase at people, right, who were mourners, and the person was like, Oh, I don't I don't know the phrase. When somebody says to this person, well, they have a sign behind the mourners, you know, so let's say they're sitting near the fireplace on the mantel. That's a sign that said, just read the side, just do that. And I guess in addition to the sign that says the phrase, there was also another sign right behind. And so this not as observant person goes up to a mourner and says, if anybody has left a tan coat, or an umbrella, please get in the parking lot. And you know, I don't even know it's such a good story that I also have a real story I feel like it sounds like a dream job from from the Catskills. Like it's so good. And I can't even remember if it if it's something that happens to you know, a person that she knows, or if it was like lore, but it's amazing regardless.

Chuck Shute: 49:54

Yeah, no, that's great. Um, now the specials funny. I love the Facebook joke. As the details of the people in the audience, you the lesbian jokes are funny. But now this is interesting. I want to ask you about this, you use a derogatory slur of lesbians I do. Now, how does that sound like black people using the N word? Like, how do you get away with that? Or like, do some people get mad at that for you saying that? Or?

Liz Glazer: 50:19

Um, I think because it's a I'm a lesbian and B, it's directed at a literal cat in the joke. I think it's fine. I had a moment where I was like, should I take this out? And then I was like, now I'm not gonna. Because I don't it's a lot of a lot of that part. Like, I hadn't said, white? No, that that one I did say, but some of that stuff is really of the moment. Because it was like connected to literal people in the literal audience.

Chuck Shute: 50:56

Yeah, no, that's crazy. How many people that you knew? Were I mean, you did you like kind of like hound people, or you just send out the invite. And these are the people that showed up.

Liz Glazer: 51:04

Yeah, these are the people that showed up. And so, you know, I think I did a good job of publicizing it. And also, you know, it was this momentous day. And so I think that I capitalized on that in the sense that people might have, you know, shown support, because it was the one year anniversary of when this happened. Right. And so, you know, maybe that helped to I mean, I think that like everybody in the audience might have also shown up because I was taping no matter what, what else what also happened, but I think that like the elements of like, okay, this is a day, we would have taken you out to dinner, or we would have done something anyway. And then we're doing this like kind of made sense.

Chuck Shute: 51:54

Yeah. That's cool. So is it. So I listen to the album? Is there going to be sock clips online, though? Is there going to be a full video of release as well,

Liz Glazer: 52:03

there's not going to be yet a full video of the set. That is the album what there will be is a documentary about the making of this and the year of the well, it's a little bit more than that, actually. Because so basically, I was supposed to tape an hour with the same company that recorded me for this, before we had the stillbirth. Because Karen was pregnant. That's my wife. And I was under contract with blonde medicine, who's a great album recorded like comedy record label. And I was going to do an hour of jokes about my wife is pregnant, and I'm expecting to be a parent. And I was supposed to tape that on December 5 of 2021. It was called Born sorry, because that's a punchline of a joke. And then everything happened. We had the stillbirth, our life was up ended. And I was still not only under contract, because I mean, it's not about the contract. I adore blonde medicine, and I wanted to record with them. But I was like, Well, I want to tape an hour about this. Now that this has happened. But obviously it was different jokes, the whole, everything about it really was different. However, we're also I was like, when when we lost the baby, I was like, well do I have maybe three weeks after? I was like, do I have those my wife who's pregnant jokes that I'm never going to do again, on tape. And I did you know because either I was taping or you go to a show and somebody has a fancy camera, they're trying out whatever it is that I had footage of me doing most of those jokes. And I also had footage of doctor's appointments cuz I tape a lot like of my own life. I have footage of the actual transfer because we were on FaceTime because of COVID. So I have like the footage of like the embryo going in microscopically to my wife, and I also three weeks ish after the stillbirth. I had three camera people tape me doing the jokes that I wrote in the hospital three weeks after it happened. And it was a totally different vibe. Probably closer energetically to how I started this zoom. Okay, because I was deeply in mourning at that time. I'm not a morning person that's upon. I don't normally think of those. But um, but anyway, so So I taped that and then I have other live footage, whatever. And then I taped this hour and we have video of it. And so the goal is to have a documentary entitled stillborn sorry, which of course is another pawn, which is about how I was supposed to tape borns theory. And then it turned into this other album. And so for that, the goal is not to have like an hour set at the end, because it's part of a larger work that includes like live footage and other sets with other material. And then this right after the baby died, set, right, and then a year out. And also, hopefully, my wife is pregnant now and do very, congratulations. Wow, it's exciting. And so the baby, that's what they call it. Yes, it is. And so, you know, of course, we hope everything is very different and better, etc. And I also want to be clear that like, one of the things with stillbirth and rainbow babies that I find, it's, it's like, it all makes sense. And also, it's like, we don't replace people, right? Like, it's not like this baby replaces Leo. And I think in terms of like, the story, it's a nice, hopefully, you know, way to tell the story of our lives with respect to these events. Hopefully, you know, not not just for the purpose of the documentary, or the special or the album, but rather, you know, for just life reasons we want I mean, we wanted a baby, like, we got into this because we wanted a live one, like, you know, so. And again, I mean, there is this way that like, Leo, our first daughter, who knows why these things happen, I certainly don't. But, you know, she, she was perfect in her own way, in the way that we all are. And this was a terrible tragedy. And so, you know, I want to make this because it's like all of those babies. I don't, I just I want to speak for them. Almost. And I hope you know that through the album, and also the documentary that hopefully will come out, you know, a few months after the album comes out that I can do that, you know, or my best effort at doing that. But yeah, like, I just wanted to make something positive. That's

Chuck Shute: 57:53

awesome. Yeah. And probably probably cathartic to do a lot of this and to do the

Unknown: 57:58

jokes. Yeah. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 58:01

And especially, I feel like it's kind of like a roller coaster, which I think makes it better. Because you're like, oh, wow, you're like, you're feeling like sadness. And then all of a sudden, then you like, you break it up, and you make me laugh. And I think that's, like, so brilliant. I mean, that's what I loved about. I know he's canceled or kind of did some bad things. But Louis, like the show, I don't know if your watch that. But, of course, they talked about that shows. So it would be so serious. And you're like, Oh my God, and then he would just boom, make you laugh. And you're just like, Oh, my God, that's so brilliant. And I think that's just how life is. I like that kind of like art.

Liz Glazer: 58:36

I do, too. Yeah. And I mean, I don't know, Louis, personally. And, you know, yeah, I get he did that things. And also, I loved the show, Louis. So

Chuck Shute: 58:48

yeah, I tried to like kind of model my podcast after that, in the sense that I want to talk about things that are really serious, and really deep. And then also, like, really light and really funky things and just kind of be all over the place.

Liz Glazer: 59:00

I support it. And you know, truly, I think you're doing an amazing job. I've said it, you know, off the air many times, and I've meant it every time truly. Oh,

Chuck Shute: 59:11

thank you. That means a lot. I know it meant a lot when I like I listened back to that first interview and I cringed a little like not you just more of myself as like, oh, like, you know, listen to all it's probably the same, like if you watch old standard, so much better than this. But yeah, it's cool that when someone supports you early, like that means a lot.

Liz Glazer: 59:29

Oh, yeah. Well, same. Thank you. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 59:33

I mean, it's interesting, like you have a lot of, I was like looking at your followers on Instagram, like, wow, you have so many comedians, big comedians that that follow you, like, acted with over the years. It must be like, Yeah, cool.

Liz Glazer: 59:48

Yeah. I mean, I feel very lucky. I remember when I first got into it, all I wanted was a mentor. And that's how that Joan Rivers story that's on the album arose because I never meant to do comedy. And when I started doing comedy, I was like, Okay, well, I need to find somebody who can be my mentor. I know Joan Rivers from the Muppets. What about her? And but now, you know, I feel like the universe or you know, whatever, whoever has brought into my world, like, the fact that like, you know, Mike Kaplan, I mean, could anyone ask for a better mentor and friend than that Maria Bamford, same thing? And it's like, it's open for her. That's so cool. It is and reach

Chuck Shute: 1:00:30

out to her. How did that one come out? Oh, we've been

Liz Glazer: 1:00:33

friends for a while. And, and then she through comedy. And then she, like, you know, has been a real supporter and follower of my career. And then like, she was coming through Fairfield, Connecticut last June, like a year ago, June, and was like, Hey, are you anywhere near Fairfield, Connecticut. And I was like, thinking like, yeah, do you need a place to stay? Like, do you need a ride? You know? And then she was like, Oh, I'm fine. But do you want to do five minutes? And I was like, yeah, obviously. So then I did. And then she had me open for her for two dates that she was on the East Coast. And those were amazing. One of one of them was at so pack, which is the theater that's like, right near where I live, the South Orange Performing Arts Center, which is an amazing theater that I now like, because of that night, got to know the executive director, and I'm able to, like, do so many more things at that theater. So it's really amazing how, you know, kind of like, you just plot away and like this thing that leads to that thing leads to the other thing, hopefully, you know, but I think if you stay a course, than that, that reality allows is allowed for.

Chuck Shute: 1:01:49

Yeah, cuz. So you're in New York now? Because you weren't you were? And then Didn't you go to LA and that so now you're back to New York?

Liz Glazer: 1:01:55

Yeah, I'm in New Jersey. Being honest, which we don't have to be like, you could say New York, but no, I'm in New Jersey. And

Chuck Shute: 1:02:04

are you from like Manhattan? Like if you wanted to do like the comedy cellar or something?

Liz Glazer: 1:02:08

Oh, yeah. It's like 33 minutes. It's pretty. It's very easy. Yeah. So and I grew up living in a suburb of New York, that is in New Jersey. So I am familiar with that, like way. But, but yeah, I was in LA. I was in LA for three years. And I knew that because my thing with with going to LA was I was like, if I can go to law school for three years, I can go to Los Angeles for three years. And so I knew that I was leaving after three years, and I left during the pandemic, but that was also when my lease was up. So it was like, you know, whatever. I mean, I left a week before I thought I was gonna, because my dad died. And so you know, and my dad dying obviously affected my life a lot, but not my travel plans as much. So yeah,

Chuck Shute: 1:02:59

so did you meet people? You met people from New York and LA then because I mean, like, like Scott. Never had to know how to say his last name. Is it sys or Cece? Oh, yeah. He does this IKEA tiktoks I love that guy. And that guy follows you. And then this guy that I found on Tik Tok Austin, NASA who does amazing impressions. I don't know why he's not on SNL. I think he's better than us. He falls you some like WWE, CJ, CJ Perry.

Liz Glazer: 1:03:29

Yeah, he follows you. So CJ, I met an acting class. SCOTT I met on a show at Caroline's when it still existed. Rip. Austin. I don't know that. I I will have to check because I'm not sure where we met.

Chuck Shute: 1:03:49

You know him though.

Liz Glazer: 1:03:52

I do. He does. Great. And I believe I'll have to get to know him.

Chuck Shute: 1:03:57

Yeah, he does a great he does Trump and Biden and like, he does like a bunch like in there. Like I said, they're I think they're better than like people on SNL. Yeah, amazing about tick tock and all this stuff. Yeah,

Liz Glazer: 1:04:10

totally. Yeah. I mean, and that's like, it's inspiring to see people who really make use of the media that way.

Chuck Shute: 1:04:18

Yeah, that's crazy. Dylan Mulvaney follows you. Oh, Dylan.

Liz Glazer: 1:04:21

Yes. I know. From acting.

Chuck Shute: 1:04:24

Yeah. Cuz she's like, she's a big name, right. I don't think two months ago. anybody knew she was now it's like, right. She's in the news. Oh, yeah. She's

Liz Glazer: 1:04:33

very much in the news. And she's a very wonderful person.

Chuck Shute: 1:04:39

Yeah. And then who's this? Yellowstone actress hassy. Harrison. Oh, yeah,

Liz Glazer: 1:04:45

yeah, we know each other through a mutual friend in LA, who had a party. And there. It was, like we met at the party we got along, but also There was this picture of like her and another friend who was also like, you know, a very blonde like Hollywood, like, looks like they're supposed to be there. And then I was in the background of the photo. And I was just like, you know, going like, looking at my friend who took the photo. And I think and then I posted that photo. And I think I wrote the caption of like, invite me to your Hollywood party, this is my vibe or something silly like that. Because it was just so like, that would be me is like lurking in the background like, Hey, I'm also here. And I think that she and I became internet friends after I posted that because we met at that party, and we're in the same photo.

Chuck Shute: 1:05:44

That's super cool. Do you think that stuff helps you like making these connections? Like, I mean, Maria Bamford reached out to you and asked me open like,

Liz Glazer: 1:05:53

Yeah, I think I mean, I think, you know, ultimately, I really am just trying to like, be the best not only comedian, because yeah, but I'm really trying to express the most mean thing in the way that allows people in front of me to get it and me the most. That's really what I'm trying to do. And it seems that comedy is the medium through which to do that. But I guess and by the way, I have a heart out at 1215. I should have mentioned that before. Sorry. Sorry. No, no, I'm sorry. But, but I think like, whenever something is all about, like, Oh, this is the craft, it's like, it's yes, it is like I am trying to be the best comedian. But it's like, I'm not trying to put together a string of my best jokes, just because I want to showcase that I can be the best at comedy. Because to me, that's kind of like what I was talking about at the beginning, the sort of addiction and obsession with skill and craft, to the exclusion of the person. And to me, it smells too much like what I did in law. And so I don't like it as much, because I'm just like, Yeah, well, when I was a law professor, I was trying to write an article to get to the highest place journal, I was trying to, I was visiting at another law school trying to, like, get up the rankings, like anything that's like that. I, I kind of, it's hard for me to really get into it, you know, because it's just too similar. And I'm just like, I want to, you know, be? I don't know, I mean, maybe it sounds dumb and idealistic. But like, I really want to be me in front of people who I don't know yet. But who feel like they know me. And if I met them, I probably want to be best friends with them. That's what I want. That's super

Chuck Shute: 1:08:05

genuine. And I think that's the whole point of life is just to be happy. So why not do what makes you happy and try to do less of the stuff that doesn't make you? I guess my thing is, I always just try to balance it with like, like the like that we were talking about earlier. Like things like the editing and the video and audio clips. I hate this crap. But I'm trying to just do it. Because I know it's important because I know it's going to help me get where I really want to where I can hire someone to do it for me, because I hate it so much.

Liz Glazer: 1:08:32

Yeah, right. And I believe that you'll get there. And soon because you're doing a fantastic job track truly. So appreciate that.

Chuck Shute: 1:08:41

Yes. How are you? I love the special. I hope it blows up. People should check it out. And I want to make sure I say the right name. It's called a very particular experience. Yep. It's gonna come out on is it may 12. Is that you're right. Yes. Got it. So as you remember, I always promote ending a chip from an end promoting a charity. I think last time we talked about donating to the ACLU. Do you want people to donate to that? Or is there another one?

Liz Glazer: 1:09:07

I mean, so So I gave all of the proceeds from the album recording to March of Dimes. 100% of them?

Chuck Shute: 1:09:16

Oh, that's generous. Yeah. Well, I

Liz Glazer: 1:09:19

really, I mean, March of Dimes does great work on pregnancy loss, among other things. So yeah, that's what I'm gonna

Chuck Shute: 1:09:28

promote. Okay, awesome. Well, I'll let you get back to your heart out. And thank you so much for doing this. Yeah, people should follow you on Instagram, preorder the album, especially if it's money is going to March of Dimes. That's amazing. And I look forward to seeing this TV show that you're gonna be writing. That's Thanks, Jack. Is that you're still working on that?

Liz Glazer: 1:09:50

Yeah, yeah. And the scene of the 18 espresso shots is helpful, because I'm gonna, I'm gonna write that one today.

Chuck Shute: 1:09:59

Okay, are you Now, you know, we got to two minutes but real quick like, would you now obviously you want to star in it or would you be open open to having someone else turn it? Or is it kind of like, we'd like Rocky I don't know story with that semester Salone wrote it and he's like, he I think he had to like take a pay cut or something to star in it like, how do you you have a?

Liz Glazer: 1:10:17

Yeah, I want to be in it. To me, that is the most fun if I would take a pay cut. Yeah, sure. I mean, what am I getting paid right now to be in my own show? Nothing. So yeah, I'm happy to take a pay cut.

Chuck Shute: 1:10:32

Okay. Well, I hope it happens. And thank you so much and come back on time.

Liz Glazer: 1:10:37

All right. Love you. Thank you. Yep.

Chuck Shute: 1:10:40

Great stuff from Liz Glaser. Make sure to preorder her stand up album, a very particular experience out May 12. And the proceeds go to the March of Dimes, which is very cool and very generous of Liz. So make sure to support her also by following her on social media. She has some very funny clips on there for stand up. And of course, as always liking sharing, commenting on social media and YouTube for the guest and this episode can help us both out so I appreciate all your support for my guests in my show. Have a great day. Shoot for the moon.