Chuck Shute Podcast

Violet Saturn

February 17, 2023 Violet Saturn Season 4 Episode 319
Chuck Shute Podcast
Violet Saturn
Show Notes Transcript

Violet Saturn is a young up and coming band consisting of siblings  Lauren Carr Reed (vocals) and Spencer Carr Reed (guitars).   The band makes melodic pop-punk songs in the vein of Paramore.  They recently released a new album titled "All The Cool Kids" on the Big Machine Label (Sheryl Crow, The Struts).  We discuss the new album, songwriting, visual style, the L.A. rock scene and more!

00:00 - Intro
00:39 - Welcome Violet Saturn!
01:05 - New Album "All The Cool Kids"
01:30 - Signed to Big Machine Label Group
04:28 - Writing Songs & Learning to Produce
05:11 - Sweetest Life & Early Songwriting
06:00 - Young & Dumb & Songwriting Process
07:31 - Learning Music
09:01 - All the Cool Kids
11:27 - Developing Style
12:24 - Nick Ruiz of Joyous Wolf & L.A. Bands
13:47 - Troubadour
14:36 - Love You Madly
15:47 - Who Is She? with Josh Freese & Chris Chaney
16:54 - Over Songwriting & Recording
17:54 - You Should Go & Guitar Solos
19:30 - Korn, Influences & Modern Music
21:17 - Paramore & Opening Bands
22:07 - Getting Along as Siblings
23:17 - Losing Things in Malibu Fire
24:25 - Future Live Shows Locally & Tour
27:58 - Humane Society & Pets
29:02 - Outro

Violet Saturn website:
https://www.violetsaturn.com/

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https://www.humanesociety.org/

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Chuck Shute:

violet Saturn is my guest for this episode. They are a band made up of brother sister team of Lauren Carr reed on vocals and Spencer Carr read on guitars, great music, it's in the vein of Paramore or no doubt, pop punk songs very catchy. I dare you to listen and not get hooked. And we're gonna talk about the new album all the cool kids possible tour plans that may have their style, songwriting, and more all coming up next. Welcome to the show, guys. I don't usually do a lot of indie, or like younger up and coming bands anymore, but I've had you guys on my radar for a while and then it's so funny. I was in LA. And I was like, I'm gonna go to see a show at the Viper Room because I thought they were closing and you guys were playing and I was like, Oh, I remember these guys and get a new album. I was like, Okay, I gotta have you back on the show. So, on the show for the first time, so welcome. Thanks for having me. Yeah. Yeah. So new album's called all the cool kids. I'm loving it. I mean, would you call it an album? Because it's only eight songs or is an EP?

Lauren Carr-Reed:

I guess? Yeah. I think it's technically an album album. Yeah.

Unknown:

Okay. I can't I mean, it's just a really

Spencer Carr-Reed:

long EP, maybe?

Chuck Shute:

Well, it's good because there's no filler. Like every song is good. That's what I liked about it. Yeah. So how did you guys get signed? Because you're on this. I didn't realize that like, you know, aside Viper Room. Like I said, I've followed your career for a couple of years now. But I didn't realize that the album was on this, like big label. What's it called the Big Machine label group. Like you have a bad flower, Aaron Lewis, Sheryl Crow, the struts. I mean, these are like some huge artists.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Yeah.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

It's very, very cool to be signed with them.

Chuck Shute:

So how did that happen? They discovered you too. They like see on a club or something. Or,

Lauren Carr-Reed:

well, our songs, young and dumb. And say goodbye. We're on rotation at KOLs. So the Program Director Keith Cunningham sort of referred us to big machine and that's how everything got started. We did two showcases one in LA and then one in Nashville. And then that's how we got signed.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, I heard about it though. So that's a showcase like we're a bunch of labels come out. And and then like, they kind of fight over you a little bit, or was there other labels interested?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

For this showcase? Yeah, it was a big machine came out. And we did. Yeah, we did. We did two one like because they're based out of Nashville. So we did one in LA they came and then we did another one. And Nashville. Yeah. COVID To

Chuck Shute:

okay. Yeah, that's that's word. But you guys have a late I mean, because so many artists are doing it just independently now. Because you don't have to really have a label. But I think if you're gonna, if you're gonna have a label, it's good to have a big one that has, you know, star power behind it, they must know what they're doing what, what have they done for you so far in terms of like marketing and things like that.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Um, they've just been like, really helpful with, like, for example, our PR packages that we've done for the album, we had this like, cool box that had like, is very like Galaxy theme, because all the cool kids is like, that was sort of the aesthetic for it. Yeah, just things like that. Just like,

Spencer Carr-Reed:

yeah, they help like, you have a vision and they help bring it to life. Like, in a lot of ways, like with a really great creative team. And they had really like how cool we it's like, it's cool to have like a team of people. It's really awesome.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, no, that's really so they helped set up like shows and things like that, or appearances or

Lauren Carr-Reed:

like, the Viper Room, the troubadour. Those sort of just like happened randomly, but yeah,

Spencer Carr-Reed:

yeah, those were kind of just like, on the fly kind of shows. Yeah. Okay. kind of random, but like good timing. Good time. Because yeah, because they one was like the Troubadour we played right before our album release, which was perfect timing. And the Viper Room was just like, super random. Just played those songs live for a long time. We I don't think we had our last show before that was literally the showcase. Yeah, that was like two years ago.

Chuck Shute:

Oh, really? It's been that long. Yeah, because of the pandemic and stuff. You guys couldn't do those because I know LA is a little more strict than other places.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

We were just writing a lot during the pandemic, like the entire pandemic writing and I like learn how to produce during that time, and like learn how because I didn't know how to do any of that before that time learning how to produce and like write and kind of just like bring the songs to life. So but we hadn't played them live. So it was our first time playing most almost all the songs live.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, so when you were doing the writing during the last two years, or any of those songs on this album are these all songs that We're already like pre made.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

No, like every song except for young and done and say goodbye was major in quarantine.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, gotcha. Yeah, cuz yeah. And then you guys had sweetest life that song didn't isn't on this album omegas you'd already released it or whatever. But that was kind of a cool song and video. different sound than what you're kind of doing now them.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Wait, yeah, way different. That was like 2017 we recorded that. And I think Lauren was like 13 Yeah, yeah, you're right that when you're like 11 or something. Yeah, that's it's pretty

Lauren Carr-Reed:

much. It's like a, it's like has a little special place in our heart. But

Spencer Carr-Reed:

I guess you're recorded. Yeah.

Chuck Shute:

So a lot of these songs were written when you were young, like for age 14 to 17 or something?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Yeah, on the new record. Yeah, I

Lauren Carr-Reed:

think it was actually like 13 to 16 or something. I can't remember the exact

Chuck Shute:

Okay, so your Yeah, your breakout song is young and dumb. Which again, that's, that was the most played song on K. What is it? Kela KOLs. The rock station in LA on 2020. And you have a remixed version of it on the album. Talk about that song. And how old were you when you wrote that one?

Lauren Carr-Reed:

I think I was 13 when I wrote them. Yeah. I love that song. It's it's I was, I think you can tell that I was 13 but not negative. Like, I just was like, young and dumb at the time when I wrote it. Yeah, I love that song.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, it's just but it's so catchy. So Spencer, do you help? Right? I mean, you must be writing the riffs for the music part of it. And she's writing the lyrics or how's it work?

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Yeah, so I come up with like, the lyrics and the melody, like sometimes at the same time, sometimes at separate times. But normally, it's like, at the same time, and then I'll bring it to Spencer. And then he'll come up with like, the riff and everything. Normally, we just like, end up making like a little demo at home.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, so then how do you do the melody? You just do it on a keyboard or something? Or?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

No, I just, yeah, jazz, like a whole folder on your voice memos. And it's just like her, like, half asleep. Or whatever, like 3am a lot of

Lauren Carr-Reed:

like, in the middle of the night or something or like really late and, you know, for me, I can understand what I'm singing but if anyone were to listen to them, they would be like, horrible. Like, this is so bad. But I I see my efficient one. I'm like, okay, yeah, I see what I was. I see what I was doing.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, so how did you guys learn how to play? How did you learn how to sing? How do you learn how to play guitar? Did you guys are you self taught or did you take lessons privately or

Lauren Carr-Reed:

with singing? I was just saying like, ever since I was little in like musical theater and stuff. And like every like little like talent show with Spencer and I. And I take vocal lessons now just to sort of sing like safely and sing properly. And I have preserved my voice. But yeah, I say ever since I was like really little.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, so you don't see. Does one of you play keyboards? Because I know this the other song you have. That's really catchy. Say goodbye. And that's that's also I think we did we talked about the no that one. Yeah, that one's a remix also, but it there's keyboards on that one, right?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Yeah, yeah, that. Yeah, that's like I played some keyboards. I don't actually know how to play keyboards. Yes, like, I can just like program stuff to make it sound okay. But for Yeah, for like the five new songs like the newer songs. Like I did all the programming on that, but I did it with me and another guy named Tim did the programming for those.

Chuck Shute:

Oh, cool. So does that what that is then you just can program it on your computer. Does he work? Yeah, yeah. Okay. No, I saw you guys live obviously. You don't have a keyboard player. So you have to just have that kind of like a track that you play or something?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Yeah, yeah, we have like a track rig.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, gotcha. Yeah, well so and then the single all the cool kids I love this song the song and that's the name of the album obviously. But the lyric all the cool kids grow up to be losers tell me how what inspired that? Because there's you You're You're still young, like your friends haven't grown up yet.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

I remember when I came up with that I just like seeing him I was like all the cool kids grow up to be losers and all the beggars cannot be choosers and I was like Spencer, this sounds so cool. Let's let's write this. But yeah, that song. It's just about like the irony of life. And sort of how, like nothing is really as it seems. It's just like, it's kind of like a very negative song about how like everything sucks in life, but has sort of like a positive twist to it. Okay, well, well, so.

Unknown:

I mean, you're Are you still in high school or do you graduate?

Lauren Carr-Reed:

I'm still high school.

Chuck Shute:

We're still in high school. So are you talking about the cool kids? Are you one of the cool kids? Like are you at enemies with the cool kids do kids like you?

Lauren Carr-Reed:

I'm not a cool kid. But that's okay. Um, but never enemies with cool kids either. I think good people don't grow up to be losers. So you just have to be like a good person, you can still be a cool kid and grow up to be successful. I think as long as you're a good person. Yeah. I, in that lyric, I'm referring to like the mean kids and bullies who are deemed cool, but are not.

Chuck Shute:

Right. So did you get bullied? Because I mean, you, you know you're in a rock band. So you're wearing kind of outrageous outfits and things like that, like you wear that to school to kids give you shit about it, or

Lauren Carr-Reed:

to my face, not to your face. But yeah, I think that's something that like every teen has to go through in high school, just like always feel like they're being judged. And, you know, always feeling insecure, because they're always thinking about what their peers think of them. And that's why I think that that song is very relatable because whether you are a cool kid or not everyone sort of goes through insecurities in high school.

Chuck Shute:

So then how do you get through that? Because like, I mean, like I said, you wear these sometimes outrageous outfits, which I love. I think that's part of your guys's style as a band. But I mean, it takes a part in the term but like, it takes like, some balls to go out there and be like, Oh, I'm gonna wear these like giant sunglasses and stuff like, and I'm not I don't care what people think. So, I mean, you're not really that worried about what other people think about you. Right? So you're kind of more secure?

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Yeah, I think so. I think so.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. That's cool. How did you develop all that style? Like, I mean, it's kind of like a mix of like punk and

Lauren Carr-Reed:

yeah, um, I always like loved fashion like, ever since I was really little. And I would love to like have like my own clothing brand one day like that's always been like, just interest of mine. In addition to music like I love it just as much in some ways.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, I saw you like designing bags and stuff like that and love

Lauren Carr-Reed:

making bags and shoes and like anything fluffy and love. Like, yeah,

Chuck Shute:

you make those shoes. Like you had the I feel like there was one pair of shoes that they were like giant they were so awesome, though. Whatever happened to those just off those?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Oh, yeah, I remember that. They're on the your tick tock, right.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Yeah. Are they the fluffy ones?

Chuck Shute:

I don't know. They were like huge. They're like cartoonishly big, but it like looks cool. I was like, I've never I think that's what first drew me to you. I I heard about you guys from Joyce Wolf. And I was like, okay, like, Nick Reese, or I think he's going by rows now. But he mentioned your name is like, Okay, I gotta check these guys out. And first thing I saw.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

I saw that podcast. I remember. That's a funny story. How we met him. We actually met him recording sweetest. Like yeah, in the studio like, Yeah, okay. Yeah, they're awesome.

Chuck Shute:

Where? Which studio? Is that? Was that a big studio? Was that more independent?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

US Valley? Yeah. Yeah. It Yeah, we were at that studio. And he was they were recording. I think they were recording like Mississippi queen. And all those songs. Okay. Yeah.

Chuck Shute:

Are you friends with a lot of the bands like in the LA area like in that scene? Like those joyous wolf I've had on of limbo? There's some other ones too.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Yeah. We've been like really lucky to play like a bunch of shows with like, a bunch of cool people. Like at The Troubadour. Yeah, definitely.

Chuck Shute:

What other ones besides, besides those ones I mentioned any other ones that you can mention?

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Slaves To humanity there. Oh, yeah.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Yeah, you're on KOF with us? Yeah.

Unknown:

Okay, I have to check them out.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Yeah, course. Now, but most definitely so many

Spencer Carr-Reed:

cool. One of my good friends is in a band called Auto. Oh, yeah. They're super cool. Okay.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. And he had to come back and yeah, I never I don't think I've ever seen a show at The Troubadour. That's that's the legendary place as well. Same as The Viper Room.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

So that was cool. Yeah.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Yeah. So that was like the week before when I was sick. And I was so nervous that I wasn't gonna be able to play it and like, because my voice just like wasn't that good? Because I was like, so sick. And of course like the literally the night before, like the day before, that's when I started getting better. So it's like okay, I'm gonna play it like I was determined like I needed to play it but I was so that week was just horrible because I didn't know if I was going to be able to play I didn't know if my voice would be ready yet but it was so so excited because I really really wanted to play this.

Unknown:

And how does it go went well.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

It was great. Yeah, it went amazing.

Chuck Shute:

Very cool. Let's talk more about the the other songs so love you madly I think that's your most popular song is that is that getting some airplay on kalo s or anything like that?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

That's been Yeah, that's been it's been getting like some attention on radio like we were we were played on underground garage like on Sirius XM. We had some really cool stuff on on that and just other other stations giving us love and then like you It just yeah, it just it was on some playlists on Spotify too. So that was pretty cool.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, that seems to be the way now is to get it on the playlists.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Yeah

Spencer Carr-Reed:

yeah those are those are super powerful definitely for for growing songs on on DSPs but yeah, so yeah that that was that was super cool like oh we got a billboard article

Lauren Carr-Reed:

yeah

Spencer Carr-Reed:

that was pretty crazy that's that's cool. Yeah

Unknown:

I don't know if I saw that

Spencer Carr-Reed:

that happened like a month ago best pop songs on like that

Lauren Carr-Reed:

is pop punk yeah Back pop punk song

Spencer Carr-Reed:

no pop song Oh was it? Yeah it was Yeah.

Chuck Shute:

Oh wow nice. Yeah. And then what about talking about the song Who is she? Because that's a cool song it's got like that fast punk guitar riff but then like a melodic chorus. How did you get Josh Freese on drums and Chris Chaney on bass like those are two pretty big names

Spencer Carr-Reed:

we just saw on the street we're like, hey,

Lauren Carr-Reed:

now, now we were so like, we're so grateful to have them like they're amazing. They're both so incredible. Like, watching Josh freeze like play drums is like insane because he's like a machine like he just like playing this. Like perfectly. It's like Raizy

Chuck Shute:

so he they just played on that one song the right who did the rest of the well, they played the whole record. Yeah, well not those two. Okay. Wow, that's amazing, then they're not going to tour with you though. Well, maybe how many days did it take for them to do all the tracks for the whole

Spencer Carr-Reed:

two days? One one day per each? Oh, one day each? Yeah.

Chuck Shute:

Wow, those guys are total pros. That's amazing. Yeah,

Lauren Carr-Reed:

they are amazing.

Chuck Shute:

That's great. And then tell me about the song over I thought that was like a really beautiful song seems like you're really growing as a songwriter as I'm assuming that was one that you wrote a little bit later because it seems like it's more complex.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

I was actually no that was one of the first

Chuck Shute:

that's amazing then that you could write that so because you're talking about like, insecurities and you hurt me and voices in your head and all this and I'm like, your complex song and seems like

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Yeah, fun fact about that. Some of the guitars were literally recorded in Spencer's closet.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Turned up an amp in a closet and miked it up and I was like, Cool.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

That was like our experimental days during quarantine with like, recording and stuff.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, so it was a lot of it recorded a lot of the album recorded just at your house.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

The demos but oh the vocals Yeah. Yeah,

Chuck Shute:

okay. What about Is it fun to play it's gotta be really fun to play the solos I know they're not as in fashion now but like the song you should go it's got a really the melodic harmonizing background vocals, which I love. Very catchy. And then it's got a guitar solo on there. So talk about that

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Spencer. It has a guitar solo. Those are hard to find.

Chuck Shute:

Right? Like yeah, so how do you decide which songs get a solo and which ones don't?

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Well, just depends on the vibe. We're like.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

I feel like solos I'm big fan of solos that are kind of like another part of the song. Or like that kind of help. Not a SharePoint read. So also, I can't trend so that's another thing. But I like like the melodic solos. Like, that's my so like, I don't know how we decide that it just like it's it's divine. Yeah, one it was fast.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Yeah, cuz you're sorry, go ahead. We were like, is this so low? Too long. And this song? I was like, No, I like it. But sometimes, like, Are you sure it's not too long? I feel like it takes up the whole song. And I was like, No, we're keeping it. We're keeping the whole thing.

Chuck Shute:

We can Spencer, aren't you your fan of like Hendrix and Led Zeppelin. And those those definitely have. I mean, I feel like every Hendrix song and Zeppelin song has a soul somewhere.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Yeah. And I think it's just like, this depends on the style of the song that we write. And that would just really fit a solo. Some of them don't like, like, Cool Kids has a solo too. But it's like not a solo. It's more of like a melodic section.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, well, it's interesting. You guys also both like corn, but I don't hear any corn in this record. Is that just something that maybe you listen to but doesn't really influence the music that you're making?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

I'd say that I think yeah, I listened to like we listened to a lot I at least I do. I listen to a lot of pop like rap and stuff and even like EDM and stuff. And I think you can pull little things or everything, like not the entire genre, obviously, but you can pull something from every because like, for example, like the vocal production and a lot of pop music is amazing. Like I like to kind of go off of that, or different parts. Yeah. How do you make

Chuck Shute:

music now that is like that fits into younger people music because you guys are young, but like, I feel like this music is almost more. It's kind of reminds me of like no doubt or like Paramore or something like kind of that era, which is like a little bit like, that's kind of like my era. And a lot of ways I like that kind of stuff. How do you make it for the contemporary kids? Because a lot of kids are listening to like you said, EDM, rap and those kinds of things.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

I think because we are young, and we do listen to all that stuff. Like, I I feel like you can hear it through our music, even though I think definitely there's like a pop punk like sort of like, throwback II vibe. But I feel that just because we are young, and we're surrounded by that it sort of seeps through, and that young people can can sort of still relate to it. I think also with my lyrics, I think that they're very appealing to young people, particularly like young girls. So I think there is still that sense of like, young Miss and like now Miss.

Chuck Shute:

No, definitely, especially with, like I said, the visual styles, I feel like that like and like you said, You guys are young. So it's like you're kind of making it cool by being young. And I'm surprised like I don't know if any bands have reached out to you like a Paramore or somebody to take you on the road as an opener.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

I love Paramore. Right, that Hayley Williams is the best singer ever of all time. Like, she's so good at that. I love her more.

Chuck Shute:

So is that something that the what's called Big Machine labels. That's something that they are they're trying to negotiate some sort of opening act for you guys. Because obviously you wouldn't headline with you only have like 10 songs, but you could do a really cool opening for a band like that.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

That would be really cool. Yeah. All right.

Unknown:

We're putting it out there into the universe

Spencer Carr-Reed:

we are putting in.

Chuck Shute:

So how do you This is another question I have for you guys. How do you get along with each other? Because I had three siblings. I could not even like share a bathroom with them? How the hell do you have a band with your brother and sister? I just can't I don't know how you do that, like you guys gonna have fights over or how do you get along with each other?

Lauren Carr-Reed:

The thing is, like, we couldn't share a bathroom. But like we could do this. Like, there's just something about the music that like makes us like, it's like forces us to get along. And I think I don't know, I at the same time. I think it's really beneficial because I can tell him like, this sucks. This is horrible. Versus like someone who I'm not as comfortable with but like, I have to like sugarcoat it and be like, Maybe we should try something else. But with Spencer I can just be like, this is absolutely horrible. Try again. And she

Spencer Carr-Reed:

does often 90% of the time and Stan. Oh, that's really good. Or should go that's good. And I'm like, okay, then that must mean it's really good. Wow, that's

Chuck Shute:

actually really good point and think of that. But you're right, because you can just be open and honest. You don't have to sugar. That's exactly. Wow, that's That's brilliant. That clearly shows because like I said, the music is great. So whatever you're doing is working. Keep doing it. Thank you. Yeah, so I just want to ask you too, about how was everything like I heard this. You guys lost her house and all the possessions from a fire in Malibu. That's crazy. Did you get everything restored? And did you lose anything valuable? Any guitars or anything like that?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I got the No, I mean, I lost a few guitars, but like nothing was I feel like nothing super like sentimental. I mean, but

Lauren Carr-Reed:

sever all of our baby pictures. Like no proof that we were babies. That's true.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

That's been I guess that's technically sentimental.

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Just informed adults and no one no one would know any different

Chuck Shute:

baby pictures. Now already have them on social media though. I thought I saw like one or two that you guys had posted about?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Those are like on a phone. The ones from the phone. Okay. Yeah. Well all my view pictures because I was born in oh one so that's before phones. Okay. Wow, that's sad, man. Oh, it's gonna look at it that we could have been born adults like now our stock photos into picture frames. So that's great as

Chuck Shute:

well. So do you guys have any I don't see any live shows. Obviously. I mean, no tours, but not even any local like LA shows are anything lined up yet right?

Lauren Carr-Reed:

Not at the moment. But very soon we're planning on it. So stay tuned because we will be playing lots of local shows.

Chuck Shute:

Just local but and then nothing. No plans for a tour or anything like that or

Lauren Carr-Reed:

the moment but there will definitely be a

Chuck Shute:

tour is that so is that your job to set up the tours and stuff or is it the big label machine to do that? Are they supposed to do that stuff?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Big label machine. I like that.

Chuck Shute:

Always What's it called? Why sir, I keep screwing up the name machine label sorry people a record company that million dollar the rich people

Spencer Carr-Reed:

it secret? Well, there's, there's a lot of like there's like a tour manager and then there's the manager a lot of times is involved with that in terms of like the touring aspect of it. But it's it's kind of random like for tourists like it can be a lot of different things for touring.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, because I think a lot of the bands are making it now with the the festivals like that's even the the older bands, their reliance, I think on those festival shows, because those things pay the best, like the cruises and the Big South by Southwest. And there's so many of these festivals now popping up. And if you can get on some of those, it's really good exposure to

Spencer Carr-Reed:

like ship rocked and all those.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, monsters rock. And yeah, there's so many of them that I can't even keep track of. They're all there worldwide. So you put on some like festival that's in like Europe or something and get exposure out there. And so that might be so again, we'll put that out into the universe too. But yeah, hopefully you can come to Phoenix and do a show. I'm only five hours away. Otherwise, I'll just have to drive to La again. Because that was so fun seeing you guys. I was like, Oh, this is great. It's such a short show is only like, whatever you guys do 10 songs or whatever. But

Spencer Carr-Reed:

I actually I saw a video and I saw you in the video. And I was like, Wait, is that Chuck? I saw and I was like that's crazy. That's it? You're in LA?

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, I just read Yeah, it was random going to football game. And I just like I want to go to see a show at the Viper Room because I thought they were closing down. But now I'm hearing that maybe they're finding a way to keep that place alive.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Yeah, I heard they're closing down as well. I don't know, like what the updates are with that. But yeah, I heard the same thing.

Unknown:

Okay. Well, that's sad. But you could also do a show at the Whisky. That's a bigger venue.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you end the news, the Roxy to

Chuck Shute:

the rocks. And that's still around two. That's really cool. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. The whiskey I finally saw a show there. That's a really neat venue as a lot of history there. Very cool. So well, I'll have to do a road trip if you don't go on tour. And

Spencer Carr-Reed:

yeah, yeah, we'll do a hopefully a road trip very soon to Arizona. And

Chuck Shute:

or Vegas. I have driven to Vegas before too. So anything where are you? What's, what's that?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

We're in Arizona. Are

Chuck Shute:

you do you know, Scottsdale at all? Yeah, yeah, we're, we're like a mile and a half from Old Town. Scottsdale. We're all the craziness is so yeah, there's some cool venues down here to like, I don't know I can put in a war. I don't know anybody. But I could just I could walk up and just start introducing myself and say, hey, you need to have this bandhan. No. Sure. Very cool. Well, hopefully this podcast gives you a little bit of exposure. I don't have a huge audience. But it's a it's something right. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. So I always end each episode promoting to charity. I saw that you just promoted St. Jude's. Is that the one you want to promote here at the end? Or is there another thing that you want to give a shout out to?

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Yeah, we can do can we do but we're gonna do both. Yeah, we had the Humane Society and its agents. Yeah, I can do both.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, perfect. Yeah, Humane Society is a great one. I see your dog is walking around. Your dog has made the Instagram a lot too. So

Spencer Carr-Reed:

she's all over Instagram. So yeah.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, I'm a big animal lover. We got two cats, but I don't have a dog yet. But someday I'd love to have one. So you guys have a big house to have the dog? Yeah,

Spencer Carr-Reed:

she she's, um, she wants she doesn't have a dog or we just moved. And so she's like, she's I think she's trying to get out because there's there's some stuff going on there as

Chuck Shute:

well, once you guys get back to it, thanks for doing this. I appreciate it. Love the music and hope to hear more.

Spencer Carr-Reed:

Thank you chat. Thank you for having us. All right.

Chuck Shute:

See you later. Bye. Violet Saturn, check out the new album, all the cool kids. It's out now. So good, catchy songs and they're gonna get in your head and you'll be singing along to it. And if you'd like it makes sure to support the band by buying some merch see a show? Follow them on social media etc. If you enjoyed this interview and you want to support the show, you can follow us on social media as well. Of course your likes, comments and shares there and on YouTube help the search engines so that people can find these episodes and I helped grow the show. I appreciate all your support. Have a great rest of your day. Shoot for the moon