Brett Carlisle (Great White, All Or Nothing)

Brett Carlisle is a singer/guitarist and the frontman of All or Nothing and also Great White. He returns to the podcast to tell us about landing the Great White gig, a new single with George Lynch, new music with All or Nothing, tips on success and more!

00:00 -Intro
00:37 - All Or Nothing Update
03:02 - Benjamin Franklin Song & Clip
04:32 - All Or Nothing Sound
05:16 - "Becoming One Like Rain" & Band Stress
08:10 - "Live Wire" Cover Version
09:16 - George Lynch & Terry Illous & Mitch Malloy
12:00 - Great White Connection & Getting the Job
17:18 - Singing the Great White Songs
18:00 - Brett in Great White & Erik in Skid Row 
18:20 - New Music for Great White
18:44 - Reaction to Brett in Great White
19:25 - Juggling Both Bands
20:03 - Monsters of Rock Cruise
21:00 - Setting Goals & Going After It
22:39 - New Followers & Fans
23:55 - Skanker Banger
24:53 - Growler Metal Voice & Other Music Styles
26:00 - Self Improvement & Success Tips
32:30 - Save The Music
33:30 - Outro

All Or Nothing Website:
https://officialallornothing.com/about-all-or-nothing

Great White website:
https://www.officialgreatwhite.net/

Save the Music website:
https://www.savethemusic.org/

Chuck Shute website:
http://chuckshute.com/

Transcript

Chuck Shute: 0:00

Brett Carlisle is here. He's back. He's actually here two years ago with his band all or nothing. And we did a fun interview with them. So check that out. And he's been busy since then in the last two years, he's put out new music with all or nothing. They did a song with George Lynch and he's officially become the new singer of great white. So it's been really cool to follow him and see his growth. And he's here to tell us all about it coming right up Awesome, well, let's let's go ahead and just jump right in. And yeah, if people haven't heard our first episode, when when I interviewed you guys and all or nothing to interview the whole band, and I just really listened to that. It's like so funny. We talk about history of the band, the story of the great paint, Vince nails you guys partying with bad flour, and Johnny Galecki, and lots of cool stories. So check that out. So last we talked you guys were gonna make new music and looks like an EP came out, right? Yeah. Yeah. So let's talk about that. Because those are some of those were old songs like mauled by Jackalopes you just rerecord them

Brett Carlisle: 1:11

down in one big party.

Charles Shute: 1:13

Yeah. And then the other ones are? They're totally new though, right?

Brett Carlisle: 1:16

Yeah, they're, yeah. Some of them were written, like, whiter than snow. It wasn't on the EP, but it was written, like a couple years before we actually got to record it and everything. So to us it had already sounded dated. And so we were like, you know, we'll put it out anyway. So yes, no,

Chuck Shute: 1:38

it sounds good. Did you guys work with a professional producer on this? Or did you self produce it?

Brett Carlisle: 1:43

We worked with Kevin Langley. He's in Athens, Alabama. I'm too super cool, dude. He does a lot of like, pop Hip Hop stuff. Now. He started doing like metal bands and like core stuff and everything. So we wanted to, we thought it was really cool with his history with doing metal to his more pop stuff now. So he's got, we thought he had a good year. And I think I think it turned out pretty cool.

Charles Shute: 2:16

No, very cool. So how does that work? Do you have to pay him like a flat rate? Or is he just take a percentage?

Brett Carlisle: 2:22

Now just pay for the days? Okay. Usually, we get a couple of days at a time and go up there and stay for a weekend and knock out a song or two, whatever we had time to get done.

Charles Shute: 2:39

Okay, so is there? Is there more that's in the can or is this everything that's been recorded has been released?

Brett Carlisle: 2:45

Um, everything that's been recorded is out. I mean, we've, we're always goofing around. And we can we can come up with ideas in like, two seconds. So I mean, we've got a bunch of unfinished ideas, but you know,

Charles Shute: 3:00

that's cool. I like the Benjamin Franklin song. That one's really cool. I think I thought I'd shared that one. But I couldn't find if I did or not. But remind me again, there's like some movie dialogue in that which movie is from again?

Brett Carlisle: 3:13

Tombstone? That was skies, and, you know, how

Charles Shute: 3:17

do you get the rights for that? Is there is there some sort of legal thing? Well, that

Brett Carlisle: 3:21

it wasn't, it wasn't 15 seconds. So we looked it up. And we weren't sure how that worked? Or if we would have to, like, you know, but it if it's, if it's 15 seconds or under, it doesn't really count. So we just just those couple of lines, and it was exactly, it was like 14 point something. So it was like right under 15 seconds. So we're like, yes,

Chuck Shute: 3:49

that's awesome. And yeah, cuz you're like advertising for the movie. You're helping them out.

Brett Carlisle: 3:55

There's a cool movie, but Yeah, that one's probably my favorite. My favorite one of our new songs, because it's got it's got a lot in there. The verses are really with the drums and everything they feel really kickstart my heart. And then there's that, like, right down in there, that feels kind of rage. And it's just it's a mix of things that we all have a lot of influences. So putting in a mix of things that shouldn't go together but just make something cool out of it. So

Charles Shute: 4:29

that's why I What drew me to you guys, I think in the first place Yeah, it was just the because the mall by Jackalopes like I think I'd said that in the first interview, like how I'd almost have a little bit of a punk feel to it. But I had that kind of like you guys kind of remind me of Skid Row in that regard because it's kind of like you have some punk and metal influences. And that's a good combo to me. I love that war.

Brett Carlisle: 4:48

Thank you. We we we love Skid Row and one of our favorite albums is probably slave to the grind. We really like how they took what was going on at the time. and made it heavier and just just went all out with it and had that like, that attitude, that aggression with it. And that that one, that one's a really big one for us.

Charles Shute: 5:12

Yeah, yeah, me too. That's one of my favorites. The song becoming one, like rain, you said, that's one of your favorite songs that you recorded you and that talk about what that's about, because it's about how you're kind of more introverted, and, like, you're in the front of the band. So you kind of carry the band in a way, like, if the band is successful, like it, that's all on your shoulders, but then if you guys fail, then it's like, You're to blame, kind of, like the quarterback of a football team or something.

Brett Carlisle: 5:36

Right? And, um, that, that's kind of, that's kind of how it feels. Sometimes, and, you know, we're, we all, we all want the same things, and we're all best friends and everything. And so it's I wasn't, I wasn't in the best time, whenever I was writing, it had a lot of stuff going on. And I just didn't really feel that great. And I was like, everything got really heavy for a little while. And it was, I was feeling the pressure a lot. And that was, that was my outlet for it. So

Charles Shute: 6:20

Well, that's good that you have that now, you say when you say the pressure, like from the band, or yourself or both, or, like some other people outside influences, or what,

Brett Carlisle: 6:30

I'm probably probably all the above, I mean, me and the guys are super cool. And we always have been in everything, but the pressure to be the best I can be for us and you know, feeling like leading us in the best direction and, you know, been responsible for a lot of things at once. It wasn't like, you know, nobody thinks whenever you want to get into music, you're like, little eight year old me is like, oh, yeah, I want to play guitar listening to Van Halen, like, I want to make cool sounds. And now, like, you know, there's, like, um, I was calling and booking shows and work and everything else. So we had transportation from point A to point B and responsible for all the money and like all the stuff that comes with it that you don't really think about in the beginning this growing pains,

Charles Shute: 7:24

right? Because you guys were managing yourself. Are you still managing yourself?

Brett Carlisle: 7:27

No, we have a manager now. And a lawyer. So

Chuck Shute: 7:32

that's awesome. Very cool. It's so cool to see you guys grow, man. Because like, I think it was like, what, two years ago or something I had you on and then all this stuff has happened. That's it's so cool to have you back and see all the stuff that you have done. How I mean, are you is this been your full time focus is music like you've you've been putting all your effort into this?

Brett Carlisle: 7:52

Pretty much. Um, and it's, it's gotten to the point now where like, cool stuff is just happening all the time. And everybody's fired up. Everybody's excited. And it's it's working.

Charles Shute: 8:08

Cool, dude. I love to I wanted to say I was talking about your cover of Motley Crue Live Wire. Oh my god, that is so good. I love that song. I think I message you again. I was trying to figure out if I did or not. But if I hadn't, I'd wanted to tell you. I love that. Do you think Motley Crue might give you a call? I mean, you could sing the song better than Vince at this point.

Brett Carlisle: 8:29

I mean, I don't know. That'd be cool. Yeah. I mean, that was that was one that we wanted to do. Like, the old old recordings, especially because that was so early for them and everything. We're listening to it, and we're like, Man, this song rips, but then listen to the quality of the recording and the guitars a little out of tune. Sure. Like all these little things were like, if this was done again, with like, modern production, and everything, and we really got what they like, what we feel from it across this song. We can make a cool cover of it. So that's

Charles Shute: 9:07

no yeah, you nailed it. It's badass. And then you guys have a single to talk about this with George Lynch and, Terry, how do I say? I Ellis Ellis

Brett Carlisle: 9:18

here? Are you loose? Loose? Yes.

Charles Shute: 9:20

He's formerly of gray, white dead, dead or alive is the single How did that come about? You did some shows with them or?

Brett Carlisle: 9:27

Yeah, we did a couple of shows with Terry and Jacob and in played with him and Paul is XYZ for him three. And we all just got along really well. And you know, George Lynch is like Jacobs Jacobs did. And so it just, we were like, Hey, you want to do a song? Sure. Let's see if we can get Jordan John it let's make it cool. And so, yeah.

Charles Shute: 10:03

Wait, so you just called him up or like you guys have a connection with him. You met him before?

Brett Carlisle: 10:08

We haven't we didn't meet him before. I think Terry Yeah, Terry did for that. So, yeah, so we recorded the music and everything for Terry. He wanted George on the song. And now I'm singing some backups and everything, and everybody else is playing on it. So it's, it was all pretty collaborative to make the whole thing. So it was cool. Yeah.

Charles Shute: 10:35

And then you have a shoot. Do you have a show with them scheduled? Right as I thought I saw that, or did that already happen?

Brett Carlisle: 10:40

Yes, we got to. Okay, so we've already done it in Pennsylvania. And it went really, really well. We got December 9 in Birmingham, Alabama at work play with the same lineup and then the next night, December 10. We're going to be at Club LA and Destin, Florida. So excited a lot of tickets selling the videos got like, I don't even know how many views it has now. It's like, well over 100,000. So Wow. That's awesome.

Charles Shute: 11:17

And then you guys did. So going back to Skid Row you saw you played with Skid Row and got to see them and that was the M three festival.

Brett Carlisle: 11:25

I didn't play with them. But yes, they were playing it in three and I was standing side stage.

Charles Shute: 11:30

How do you get oh, so just because you had a connection or something then?

Brett Carlisle: 11:33

Yeah, because because Jacob and Ian from EO N. We're playing with Terry as XYZ. Okay, guys, we're all running around backstage hanging out with everybody and stuff. It was cool.

Chuck Shute: 11:45

And then you guys also you were the backup band for a little bit with Mitch Malloy, who was also has the grid like this is like three times Great. Wait is this coincidence or I don't understand what

Brett Carlisle: 11:59

our our manager is friends with the band. So he was he was already friends with Terry and stuff. And we we met him through that project. And then when when I went and played at Turning Stone casino in New York, Great White was playing that same night in the big room. And then Scott and Adi came down to check out the end of our show. And so that's that's kind of how that ended up happening. When they needed somebody to fill in for Andrew. Because that last in line gig. They threw me out there because they they'd already seen me sing before. And um, so yeah, they sent over a couple of tracks and I sang on them. And that was good. Yeah, because

Charles Shute: 12:57

I saw you had posted a few Instagram, great white songs like, Oh, I'm just doing a great white covers. That was before you made it public. So you Okay, so that was just like sneaky. Like, hey, I'm just and there was said it was okay for you to post those or whatever.

Brett Carlisle: 13:11

I mean, I didn't ask, but I didn't know. I didn't know I was gonna be doing the show in Vegas, either. So.

Chuck Shute: 13:18

So was that kind of your trial? Do you think?

Unknown: 13:22

Yeah, yeah, more or less.

Brett Carlisle: 13:24

But it was crazy. Because like, I found out, got the call. And then Eric. Eric lives in Fort Myers, Florida. I'm in Birmingham, Alabama. So he got the phone call. And they said that they wanted me to record they sent him some tracks for me to record on. And he was like, Hey, man, can you can you get on a plane at like 530 There's one out of Birmingham come into Sarasota. And that's like, an hour before I have to leave some like, Ah, okay, so I hopped on the plane I didn't get to.

Chuck Shute: 14:07

And this was the plane to go sing with great white and do a show.

Brett Carlisle: 14:11

It was to record the vocal just recording. Okay. And so I got on the plane, there was a layover, I ended up getting down there at like, I ended up going to sleep around four in the morning and then had to be up at nine at the studio to record those. So singing first thing in the morning, which sucks because you know, you wake up and you're all like, oh, like voices cracky and it takes a little while to warm up. But yeah, so I was singing those at like nine o'clock in the morning on like, very little sleep. It was like one of those worst case scenario setups and I'm like, well, hopefully they like it because I had everything stacked against me but they did so

Charles Shute: 14:58

and were you the only person that they had flown out to try out. Was there anyone else you were going up against?

Brett Carlisle: 15:03

I didn't. I didn't know at the time. I think Mark said in an interview, they tried out like three other people, or something like that. But they they liked my sound. So yeah.

Charles Shute: 15:18

And so then they just said, did they offer you the full gig at that point? Or they just said, Hey, can you fill in and do some shows? And we'll see how it goes.

Brett Carlisle: 15:27

Yeah, they asked if I could do the Vegas show, because Andrew had his last in line, obligation. And so I was like, Yeah, sure. So I went out a day early there, we rehearsed before the show. All the guys were super cool. We got along really well, and hit it off and did the show. The response was really good. write ups all over the place, like, all over the world, I was having to like Google translate these articles to see what they're saying about me. So, yeah, it was really cool. And then I told him that whenever they, whenever they want me whenever they need me, if his schedule is, they're having to work around it, then, you know, I'll be there for you. So, um, they asked me about the New York show, kind of last minute. I was like, Yeah, I can do that. So that was the second one I did with them. And so,

Charles Shute: 16:28

is this like a dream? I mean, is I mean, wait, is that your top number one band that you would ever join? But this is like a big band. I mean, this had to be kind of surreal to go from all or nothing, playing the clubs to you know, it's a big step up.

Brett Carlisle: 16:43

Yeah. It's really, really cool. Because, like, I've grown up listening to him. And Aom has played a bunch of their songs before like, Savior love, Rock me, lady red light, like, we play all those songs. So when I'm when I got the call, I'm like, I can, I could pull out a half a set like right now, I guess. Like, just off from what I know, and what I've done before. So I had add a couple of weeks to cram a whole bunch of lyrics, and we made it happen.

Charles Shute: 17:18

So was there any song that was chant more challenging to sing than the others either just from maybe trying to remember the lyrics or like the vocal range or anything are?

Brett Carlisle: 17:29

Probably the most challenging one is rock me just because of how many parts there are.

Unknown: 17:34

That's a long song.

Brett Carlisle: 17:36

It's a long song. And like all the little details, Mr. Bowen was pretty tricky, too. Because that's all me too. Every chorus if you pay attention to it, every course changes. It uses the same word but in different orders.

Charles Shute: 17:50

Interesting. I didn't notice that after Yeah. So I think because it now you're the new singer, officially a new singer of Great White. Do you think that you can do what like Eric Grunwald did for Skid Row because that band is completely revitalized? I feel like they sound amazing. Their latest album is killer. It's one of their best killer. You can do the same thing for great white because I think you can. Oh,

Brett Carlisle: 18:14

thanks, man. Well, hopefully, I'm here for it if they want me too.

Charles Shute: 18:19

Okay, are you guys have you talked about making new music?

Brett Carlisle: 18:23

Mark has a you said that, um, he said on somewhere that he's been he's been writing like Mad Men. So that's, that's really cool. And if they want me to be the guy to record on it, then I'm here for it. Let's go.

Charles Shute: 18:41

Awesome. I love it. So has it been a good reaction? You said the reviews have been good the fans have been reacting good your friends and family? And what about your band? What is all or nothing? Are they supportive? Or

Brett Carlisle: 18:53

they're they're totally cool, they're excited for me they're supportive of everything going on. You know, we we hung out a few days ago and it was all smiles and laughs from the time we got together till we finally said good night and so everybody's it's a it's a team effort. Everybody's everybody's happy about everything going on and you know, Jacob and D and have played with XYZ scholars played with a couple of other bands done studio work for people and everything. So you know, ao and stone

Charles Shute: 19:25

and great white is okay with you stain and all or nothing because isn't that that was the problem with Andrews they said that he was just too busy with his last in line thing and he couldn't do that and great. Wait, so how does that work with you and all or nothing does great white take precedence or?

Brett Carlisle: 19:40

I mean, yeah, right now, they they book the book far enough in advance that you know, probably be fine.

Charles Shute: 19:51

Okay, yeah, that's cool. And then I mean, I was looking at the website. There's not a ton of dates right now, but there's a Vegas one there's a Minnesota with slaughter and vixen that Sounds fun. And then this is the one I want to go to the Monsters of Rock cruise. I've never been on a cruise. Have you ever been on a cruise?

Brett Carlisle: 20:06

No, I haven't. I've always said that whenever I go on my first cruise I want to be I want to be paid because I want to be on the band playing on the cruise. And here we are. Yes.

Chuck Shute: 20:18

I love it. Dude, this is so cool. Like, all these dreams are coming true for you. It's amazing. Yeah,

Brett Carlisle: 20:23

like, I'm just like, what's going on half the time. This is gonna be so cool. My calendar right here is empty. Because it's from September because I haven't been home long enough to like fill anything out. It's been wild.

Charles Shute: 20:41

That's amazing. I love to hear that. Yeah, the cruise thing is I'm gonna try to make that if I can, because it's Tesla. Extreme. Tyler Bryan, who had on the show is really talented. Ted Poli. I love kicks junk, Robbie. I mean, it's just going to be a killer lineup. That sounds like so much fun. And you get paid on.

Brett Carlisle: 20:57

That'd be awesome. Yeah. So cool. If you could come in. Yeah, you've you've been interviewing a lot of people. I've been saying that some of the people that you post about everything? And I'm like, yes,

Charles Shute: 21:07

yes. No, it's just fun to grow something you know, like when you you set these goals, and then you just, you just go after it. And that's what you guys talked about in that first interview. And I was like, I believed it. Because I mean, I talked to a lot of bands, and they don't all say those things. You know, they say, Yeah, I like music. But you guys were like, What do you say? Like I remember there's something Listen, when I listened back it was like you want to play on the moon or something? I was like, gonna be the first man upon the moon. I was like, This is awesome.

Brett Carlisle: 21:33

On our on our Facebook, or Facebook bio for the longest time? It still might be I'm really not sure. Um, it said high energy rock and roll band from Birmingham, Alabama, with plans to play on the moon suck that at Metallica. So, um, yeah, we want to do the thing. And it's, it's cool. And it's cool seeing you grow too. And I'm sure you know, it's not like things don't always happen the way the way you think they will or the way that you plan to just kind of unfolds and then like, before you know it, you're like, Okay, these are the conversations that I'm having right now. This is where we're at, like,

Chuck Shute: 22:19

ya know, for sure. It's really cool. I mean, I feel like for you, like you've made it now. I mean, you're the singer of great white. It's only gonna go up from here. And I mean that it's so cool, because it helps you but also it helps all or nothing. And then like, like you said, they're doing XYZ and stuff, and they're doing things so the whole everybody's just gonna come back and make the band stronger and bigger. It's, you're gonna get more followers. Did you get a lot of followers? Like when it said, you know, you're the singer of great, why did you go on your Instagram the next day, and you have like a bunch of new followers?

Brett Carlisle: 22:47

Yeah, Instagram, Instagram went a pretty good bit, but Facebook was the one that really went crazy,

Charles Shute: 22:53

huh? Did you get friend requests? Or how does that you have like a Facebook like a fan page on there?

Brett Carlisle: 22:59

Yeah, so I'm under the content creator, umbrella on Facebook, you know, they're doing a bunch of updates and everything. So I've gotten the follow up, people can still send me friend requests, but you can also just like, follow my page, which is helpful because like, I, I've hit my limit on there so many times. And then I have to go and feel bad when I have to, like clear people out of there. So I'll try to go to like, inactive accounts, and people that don't have profile pictures and stuff. But then I still have like 1300 people waiting to accept friend requests.

Charles Shute: 23:37

Yeah, I mean, that's that's just where you get but like you said they can still follow you so it's not like you can follow all those people. You can't follow 5000 people that'd be awful. Anyway, so yeah, cool. What was tell me about this one too, that you you filled in for a band? What is it called skank or banger? Kind of fun? Was this like kind of like a Steel Panther thing?

Brett Carlisle: 24:01

Um, so yeah, they're they're a funny, funny like 80s tribute, Andy wood and Ben eller. And those guys. Super cool. They asked me to come up to Knoxville because their, their singer got arrested for robbing Donald Trump. And I was like, okay, I can do that. So I went up and we had a good time.

Chuck Shute: 24:34

Is that like, did he just want the doughnuts or do donut tricks have like cash that's,

Unknown: 24:39

I don't know the dude. Okay, interesting.

Chuck Shute: 24:44

All right. That's a fun one. Yeah. The other thing that I saw on your Instagram that was really cool too. As you did you know, we talked about how your Oh, nothing is so eclectic. And you did like this growling metal version of Bohemian Rhapsody like I didn't know you could do that. Is that hard to sing that style?

Brett Carlisle: 25:00

I'm actually started doing that before I started singing. Oh, really? Yeah, I didn't work on it too too much, because I wanted to focus on singing and everything. But now that I've kind of gone back to it a little bit, I'm always trying to expand, like, in every way possible. And I like a lot of heavier stuff. So if you, it's all about technique, if you have the right technique, it's really, really easy. And that's what I think is cool about Great White is because I like a lot of r&b and stuff, too. And I don't really get a chance to show any of that. But in songs like, Rock Me and save your love, and where they have like quieter, softer, more delicate parts. I can I can really kind of kind of show like, Hey, I could do this too. So

Charles Shute: 25:56

if that's so cool. I mean, that's interesting. When you say like, oh, I'm really trying to grow and all this, I feel like you have all the right answers. Like how did you learn all this stuff? Do you read like self help books or something? Because like, I learned this stuff, but like, I'm in my 40s you're 25 and you already know all this stuff? Like how did you learn it?

Brett Carlisle: 26:12

Um, I do read a lot of books. But are we talking about like, like, vocal techniques and everything? No,

Charles Shute: 26:21

just like, like, how to set goals and like, you know how to fault like, I mean, not to be too cheesy, but like, yeah, like, following your dreams. And like, I mean, you're making your dreams happen. I feel like it's, it's your mental state, like, you know, you're you're working so hard, your work ethic, all these things? Like how is that just innate? Like, just natural in you? Or is this something that you picked up from? Like, is this how your parents raised you or,

Brett Carlisle: 26:44

um, my mom and dad helped a lot. Dad, when he wants something he gets, he gets really determined. And mom taught me that, you know, a couple of the most powerful words ever are pleasing. Thank you. And if you're grateful for things and treat people, right, then, you know, it comes back around. So they've, they're awesome. But I do, I do read a lot of books too. And I'm just genuinely excited and wanting to see how far how far I can go. And that me and the guys can go. And I really believe you can do anything in the world you want to as long as you're smart about it, and go about it the right way and treat people good. So that's

Charles Shute: 27:34

well said. Very cool. What books do you read out of curiosity? Like, I mean, is it kind of like self help kind of stuff? Or is it just random things? Or?

Brett Carlisle: 27:42

Um, I have I have a lot. I'm looking at some of them.

Chuck Shute: 27:51

I mean, it's like Lord of the Rings, because I would have nothing to do with anything. But

Brett Carlisle: 27:55

no, it's so one of my favorite ones. Is the 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership by John C. Maxwell.

Unknown: 28:04

Okay. So it is like self help kind of stuff. Okay. Thinking Grow

Brett Carlisle: 28:07

Rich by Napoleon Hill is really, really good. Yes, that is a good one. Um, God, there's so much information in that book. You can get lost in it, but it's, it's so good.

Charles Shute: 28:22

Yeah, do you follow those kinds of like, people like, I don't know if you can see that. But like David Goggins, if you ever looked at his stuff, like he's such a motivational guy, like,

Brett Carlisle: 28:30

yeah, I don't I don't know him too well, but I recognize the book and I've heard of him. But yeah, also, I follow Lewis Howes. He's got the School of Greatness on YouTube the podcast. Yeah, he's got a lot of really cool people on there. He's got a lot of interviews with like jock Dr. Joe Dispenza. and stuff, so

Charles Shute: 28:57

okay, that makes sense. That's why I think we're on the same page because I follow that stuff, too. And I just love it and I just And then yeah, you just get addicted on like, growing like you know, your your case your band for me the podcast and and just trying to make things better and just trying to grow as a person too, and, and do all the right things. And you're saying all the right things. So you've clearly like been influenced by the right people the right things? It's really cool to see.

Brett Carlisle: 29:20

Thank you. I've also been I've also been another one that's really really really good. Is Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that one?

Charles Shute: 29:33

Yeah, I read that one, too. That was really interesting. Yeah, he, yeah, he I read that whole thing about how the kid comes into the store. And I remember that one. No, that was a good one. Yeah, some of these I haven't read in a long time. And then like, what is the 10 habits or 12 Habits of Highly Successful People or whatever? That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. It's just cool to start get your mind like thinking about those things. I feel like that makes a huge difference in why some people are successful and some aren't because Some people have the tools, they can sing, they can play guitar, but like, they don't make it and you go, like, why not? It's, yeah, they're not the right mindset. That's my theory.

Brett Carlisle: 30:08

I feel like if you if you want to be really successful at something, and like, because we were my family, and friends and stuff, like, nobody's gone, like, super high with music. And so that's, that's just like, where do I start? But I feel like learning from successful people, no matter what it's music, accompany whatever it is that you want to do. If you learn how, you know how they went about things, you know, that can kind of help you think in ways that you wouldn't naturally think and then, like, ideas just start popping off like a game of pinball.

Charles Shute: 30:59

Yeah, exactly. That's so cool. You're in the Great White camp. I mean, you're gonna learn a lot from being in that band. I don't think it's gonna last forever. But I think it could last a long time. And I think whatever the however long it lasts, you'll learn a ton from watching those guys,

Brett Carlisle: 31:15

too. And they're, they've been so cool and so welcoming. They're such nice guys. Like, I'm really excited about it.

Charles Shute: 31:23

Yeah, very cool. I look forward to hopefully seeing you with great white and new music from great white. And then maybe I could see we see you with all or nothing, or, I mean, obviously, I can listen to the music and possibly new music from all or nothing at some point to

Brett Carlisle: 31:38

maybe at some point, I know that I know. With what great whites been through and everything that I've told them like, you know, you have shows booked. You need somebody. I'm there. So I don't I don't know what else is going on. Right now. We've got those shows that I was talking about earlier, in Birmingham and in Destin coming up December 9 and 10th with George and stuff. So we've got what we've got booked right now. But you know, I'm about to be really busy. So we'll see what happens when.

Charles Shute: 32:13

Okay, well, everyone can follow you on social media follow Great White on social media fall, fall or nothing. Follow your personal accounts, all that stuff for updates and check the websites, right? Yeah. Yep. Okay, very cool. And then I always end with a charity. I think last time we talked about save the music. Just want to promote that. So that's a good one. It seems like they put music in schools. Isn't that what it does?

Brett Carlisle: 32:37

Yeah, it is. That's that is a good one. It's not really a charity. But Adi the drummer from Great White. He, he's selling his a lot of coffee now. And a lot of the proceeds go there donated to animal shelters, so Okay,

Charles Shute: 32:56

that's good to know, too. Yeah. Very close. Seems like everyone's got their coffee these days. That's That's it? Yeah. Yeah.

Brett Carlisle: 33:03

Yeah, Adi Deskpro. Desperate land on Facebook. And you know, you can find it and it's gone to animals. So.

Charles Shute: 33:10

Okay, well, very cool. I'll get this episode out. Thanks for doing this. I appreciate it. And congratulations on all your success. I love it. I love seeing it.

Brett Carlisle: 33:18

Thanks, Ben. Same here. I love I love seeing you do do well with the people that you're interviewing and everything. I'm always super excited. Thanks for having me back.

Charles Shute: 33:27

Thank you. All right. We'll be in touch Brett. See you later. Yeah, man. See ya have a good lie. My thanks again to Brett Carlisle singer, singer of all or nothing and singer Great White, and who knows what the future holds for him, but it looks very bright. And I'm excited to see where he goes. So make sure to follow him on social media. Support him with your likes, comments and shares and of course I'd love for you to do the same with the podcast. And make sure you subscribe to the show wherever you watch or listen. Thank you for your support. Have a great day and shoot for the moon.