Rusty Schwimmer is an actress, with 134 film/tv credits on IMDB. Some of the films she acted in include The Perfect Storm, Twister, The Belko Experiment and Amistad. She has also had guest appearances on many great TV shows including Better Call Saul, The Righteous Gemstones and Married with Children. We discuss her acting career, working with PT Anderson, the re-release of Scrooge & Marley, playing the lead in Wild Honey, and more!
00:00 - Intro
00:34 - Playing the Lead in Wild Honey
04:10 - Scrooge & Marley
08:02 - Dahmer & LGBTQ Category
10:45 - Acting Classes & Inspiration
12:15 - Carol Burnett & Better Call Saul
14:50 - Being Recognized
16:00 - Supportive Friends & Family
17:14 - Henry Winkler & Virginia Madsen
20:55 - Dirk Diggler & PT Anderson
25:35 - Spielberg & Amistad
27:06 - Chris Farley & Christopher Guest
28:55 - Alcohol, Drugs, Emotions & Art
32:25 - The Perfect Storm & Accent
34:45 - How Fame Changes People
38:44 - Psychology & Human Behavior
41:25 - Success Stories & Slumps
46:45 - Voices
49:15 - Music
50:47 - You Can't Win
52:40 - Anthony Hopkins & Acting Style
55:05 - Musical Styles
57:30 - United Negro College Fund
58:50 - Outro
Rusty Schwimmer Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/rustyschwim/
United Negro College Fund:
https://uncf.org/
Chuck Shute website:
http://chuckshute.com/
Thanks for Listening & Shute for the Moon!
Rusty Schwimmer is an actress, with 134 film/tv credits on IMDB. Some of the films she acted in include The Perfect Storm, Twister, The Belko Experiment and Amistad. She has also had guest appearances on many great TV shows including Better Call Saul, The Righteous Gemstones and Married with Children. We discuss her acting career, working with PT Anderson, the re-release of Scrooge & Marley, playing the lead in Wild Honey, and more!
00:00 - Intro
00:34 - Playing the Lead in Wild Honey
04:10 - Scrooge & Marley
08:02 - Dahmer & LGBTQ Category
10:45 - Acting Classes & Inspiration
12:15 - Carol Burnett & Better Call Saul
14:50 - Being Recognized
16:00 - Supportive Friends & Family
17:14 - Henry Winkler & Virginia Madsen
20:55 - Dirk Diggler & PT Anderson
25:35 - Spielberg & Amistad
27:06 - Chris Farley & Christopher Guest
28:55 - Alcohol, Drugs, Emotions & Art
32:25 - The Perfect Storm & Accent
34:45 - How Fame Changes People
38:44 - Psychology & Human Behavior
41:25 - Success Stories & Slumps
46:45 - Voices
49:15 - Music
50:47 - You Can't Win
52:40 - Anthony Hopkins & Acting Style
55:05 - Musical Styles
57:30 - United Negro College Fund
58:50 - Outro
Rusty Schwimmer Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/rustyschwim/
United Negro College Fund:
https://uncf.org/
Chuck Shute website:
http://chuckshute.com/
Thanks for Listening & Shute for the Moon!
Very fun episode coming up with actress rusty swimmer. She is here to promote the rerelease of her film Scrooge and Marley to take on the classic Christmas tale. Plus we're going to talk all about her whole amazing career and the film She's done including the perfect storm and almost odd she tells me her Carol Burnett story we talk music and so much more stay right there
Rusty Schwimmer:I feel like I have like one of those Vaseline lenses thing is like civil Shepard did I don't I swear to God, I don't.
Unknown:Okay, is that what civil Shepard did? I don't know about that.
Rusty Schwimmer:During Moonlighting, they put like the Vaseline on the lens. And yeah, oh, make her like, you know, I guess smoother. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:So you probably have all sorts of cool stories and facts. Like I love it. That's awesome.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah. How are you? Chuck?
Chuck Shute:I'm great. How are you? I'm doing a little bit of a deep dive into your career. It's pretty exciting.
Rusty Schwimmer:Oh, okay. Oh, yeah.
Chuck Shute:Well, I watched I watched the Scrooge and Marley movie last night. And I also watched your I wanted to see the one where you were a lead in wild honey.
Unknown:Oh, yeah. You won an award for that?
Rusty Schwimmer:Yes. Yes. I won a couple awards for it. It was lovely. I think Newports Film Festival and Williams Burg Film Festival, both on different, you know, sides of the country. So yeah, it was a lot of fun to do that one a lot. Yeah,
Chuck Shute:it's underrated. I feel like because I had never heard of it. And then I saw it. I was like, Oh, this is like really good. The whole ever whole cast does a great job. And thank you.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah. Frank, Francis Stokes, the writer director, he and I have worked on a couple of things together. And he he said to me one time, hey, I would love to see your energy more on film. I never get to see your energy as much on film, and I want to write something for you. And I said, Oh, sure, sure. Go ahead, write over, whatever. And I'm thinking he's not gonna write it. And then three months later, there was a script in my email and, and that's how it started. And I went, Wow, okay, I'll do more of what's more me than the, you know, the blue collar chick with the Heart of Gold tells it like this, you know? You know, usually more snarky than my actual bubbly self. So he wanted more of me in a movie. Now that I'm a phone sex operator.
Chuck Shute:But yeah, so so awkward playing that, like, did you have to research that role? Did you listen to some other people do it or like, how do you it's got to be kind of uncomfortable to do that in front of the crew and everything. And
Rusty Schwimmer:yeah, a little bit. I mean, there were a few times when it was like, okay, pretend to do the orgasm. I was like, Yeah, well, not so much. Okay, let's try it. But I had a friend back in the day who actually did phone sex. And we were roommates at the time. So she'd come back and tell me what was going on. And she would work Christmas, which to me was the saddest thing in the world.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, that is sad. Wow. Because then guys, that's sad for the guy to he's calling. Is that lonely? And
Rusty Schwimmer:you think, I mean? Yeah, it was really sad. And so a few of them just wanted to talk. So in a way that was really interesting to hear a lonely guy just like the guy in the movie, which is right. So yeah,
Chuck Shute:we don't want to give it away. But yeah, there's like some twists in that. Like, I didn't know how I was gonna end. I was like, I don't know who she's gonna end up with. Or I thought maybe you were just gonna end up alone. That was my theory. But then it was like, No, there's little twist. So it's cool.
Rusty Schwimmer:Ish. Ish. Alone. Ish, right? Yeah, she found her happiness, even without a guy. Right. And so yeah, you'll see, you'll see if you it's on Amazon, as is Scrooge and Marley. Look at that. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:So Scourge and Moralia. So I'm confused about this, because I was looking and I was like, I don't see this on your IMDB. And then I looked at I was like, Wait, this is this came out in like 2012 or something, right?
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah. So this is the 10th anniversary. And they decided to release this. Because the times have changed so much. 10 years ago, that A Christmas Carol from a gay perspective was not usual. And now we just had gross come out. And that's a rom com from a gay perspective. And now it's kind of a non issue, but when we were shooting it, it kind of was a little taboo a little bit. So I think that's there now streaming it. 10 years later, you And I think it's adorable because I think that we need this, we need this. Now that our world is, is coming out pun intended coming out into the world and saying, hey, it can be done anyway like Dickens, like Shakespeare is timeless. So, you know, why not see a Christmas carol through the hip hop perspective? Or, you know, so it's like
Chuck Shute:that. I thought that was such a Exactly. It's such a good story. Like, I don't think you can screw it up. You could do it any which way. And it's like, yeah, I enjoyed it. I was like, Oh, this is the story. Like, you kind of know how it's gonna end. But it's still. It's great. And the acting is great. And you got you got Bruce a lot of blanche for launch.
Rusty Schwimmer:Blanche. Yeah. Blanche. Yeah, areas, right. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:It's great. Is every is like a majority of the cast gay.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah, the majority is I of course, at the premiere 10 years ago. He outed me as a heterosexual. And so had to say Yes, fine. I'm coming out out of the closet as a heterosexual, you know. So it's, it's kind of it was really neat, because I think there were only two or three of us that were not queer. And so I felt, what's the word I felt honored to be part of it. Richard Knight, who is the CO writer, co director, he and I have been friends forever. We were Club Kids, back in the day in Chicago, where we were working at nightclubs, as performance artists. And we stayed friends all these years, I come back to Chicago. And he says, I'm gonna do this movie. And I said, Sign me up. So that's how it started.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, no, that's cool. It's this is such a great tale. I love that. Have you seen you've seen obviously the Bill Murray Scrooge to like, the one that's like, yeah, yeah. Many of I guess I need to go back and see the original because I think isn't there an original like black and white? Yes, yeah. Yes.
Rusty Schwimmer:There's two originals that are black and white. And I'm trying to remember. It's too bad. Richard's not here. Because he knows he's such a cinephile. He knows all of the different Christmas carols, and there was one that I love so much, that was probably the oldest one. And so go and see that. That's good. And it's dark. Very Dickensian, very Dickensian.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, you just you'd love to see that character change the arc of them being starting out greedy and terrible person ending as a good person trying to help the world. It's always known.
Rusty Schwimmer:Exactly, exactly. We did get that. That's, it's like It's a Wonderful Life. It's like we need those in the world. Right? Yeah, so good. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Sorry. I'm fiddling with something here.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, no, it's funny. Like, it reminds me though, like, Did you see that you see the new Dahmer series?
Rusty Schwimmer:No, I'm too much of a wuss.
Chuck Shute:I just thought that was interesting. That reminded me that because so they put that one in the LG LGBTQ Oh, I hope I said that, right.
Rusty Schwimmer:QA? Yeah,
Chuck Shute:yeah, they put it in that category. And then people were like, Well, no, we don't want we don't want that. We don't want that in that category. So then they removed it from that category. I just wonder what your thoughts were on that, because that's kind of interesting
Rusty Schwimmer:is from the fact that I am Friends of the gays. Um, there is this. Um, I think that the biggest issue that a lot of my friends said, and this is just one of their one of their opinions is that this was more triggering to them. Because when this was happening, they knew that not only gay, you know, because he was picking them up in gay bars. Yeah, not only were they gay, but they were also usually black. And so it was like, marginalized, like, there was no tomorrow. And this was also happening in Chicago. So I have a few friends that knew who he was. So I think they were like, We don't want to own this because this was, this was a trauma to us, right? We were all freaking out who was next? Who is this dude? You know? And so I think that that's probably why they took it off.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. But so you're you're friends with a lot of gay people. So do they seek that stuff out? Or they go to like Netflix and they look at that like category and then look, okay.
Rusty Schwimmer:And the reason they go to that category is because they want to see something that are more like that more represents them. They don't have to substitute and say, oh, I want to see this love story. Well, I you know, a guy friend of mine would say I would have to substitute another guy instead of the girl you know, No. And I didn't want to see her lady parts. You know, it's like, it doesn't excite me. So. So it's really interesting. And I think that that's why hallmark is coming out with more gay storylines, because they're understanding that your sexuality doesn't mean that you're a pervert, it just means you prefer somebody else. That's not mainstream to you. Right? And everybody wants love. It's not about sex. It's about love. Right? And that's kind of why I also loved Scrooge and Marley, because it was a love story to you know, not between Scrooge and Marley. They were business partners, but you know, other stuff. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:Yeah. Yeah, that's a good that's a good one. Yes. Your story is so fascinating to me. Like I mean, just how many your your career so prolific? I think I counted 134 Acting credits on IMDb. That's insane.
Rusty Schwimmer:You know, if you live long enough, and you keep going, and you, as I say to a lot of people, if you keep chopping the wood don't look at the pile. Just keep chopping the wood, you know, and I've been enjoying myself so much. It's been amazing. Yeah. But so
Chuck Shute:you wanted to be an actress since you were a little kid. But you didn't start acting school until 18.
Rusty Schwimmer:That's correct. Oh, wow. You did a deep dive. Yeah, I was doing shows in high school and in high school I went to was very theater heavy, and they had funding for to have good teachers and good stuff. So I was lucky. I mean, we were playing to 1600 people, our auditorium had 1600 people, so it was almost as if like, Broadway and shit. You know, in my kids school, you can
Unknown:swear you can fucking swear. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, I don't have any audience. But you could swear.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah, you do. Yeah. So um, and yeah, so I, I started from a very early age, but I was more of a little sporto for a long, long time. Play tennis and softball, and, but I always wanted to be an actress. That's all I ever wanted to do. Carol Burnett was is my idol, then oh, she's great. She's amazing. She's amazing.
Chuck Shute:Did you Oh, it's gonna say because you were on Better Call Saul, but not her episode.
Rusty Schwimmer:Here's a good story. Time. So she's so much of an idol of mine that I refuse to meet her. Because I know that I'll lose it. And I can't handle it. And I said, the only way I can meet her is if I work with her. This is all I can do, you know, otherwise. And I've had a chance a few times. And it's a no I can't I can't I panic. Because I talk about her. And this is probably going to be those times where I'm not going to cry, I'm not going to cry, because she is everything to me. She showed me that you could be down to Earth Kind and still affect people's lives. You don't have to be this mystery. You don't have to be this movie star. You don't have to look a certain way. But she showed me that you could do that. And when she showed me that I could do that, then I could be an actress, and that she could be so funny, and then be devastating turn on a dime and be devastating. So she was everything. So that being said, I the driver picks me up in New Mexico where they film. And so we start talking and this and that he's an ex cop really intended to do it. I was doing another movie where I play an ex cop. So I was asking him questions. And he said, Well, you know, they also use me for security. A lot of times I just dropped somebody off right now that I had to do security detail and she's doing the show and of course we had to sign an NDA within an inch of our I mean, like everything so at the time, I could say anything to anyone after this. And he said I just dropped off Carol Burnett, she was sitting exactly where you were sitting and I burst into tears. Oh my gosh. burst into tears. I was like okay, and he goes on so sorry you mister. I go no, no, it's okay. It's okay. I'm crying because I'm in her vibe. I'm in her world, you know? And he said, Yeah, most people there were a lot of people were we'd be out to dinner and people would burst into tears when they saw her. So you're you're you're okay. Wow, that's, you know, a fool for doing that. But he said now most people have that reaction with her
Chuck Shute:must be so weird for her. I heard Tom Petty never wants to go out to dinner or he didn't, you know obviously passed away but he never went out to dinner because he would people would give him all this attention and it made him really uncommon. Trouble.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's definitely for people that are iconic like that. I mean, the things that I get most of the time was the person going, Hey, are you going to be at the church picnic? And I'm like, what church and they're like, Oh, I thought you went to my church, and you just look so familiar. You know, it's that,
Chuck Shute:Oh, you don't get recognized for like, perfect storm or any of those things. Like
Rusty Schwimmer:once in a while, I get recognized. But for the most part, people just think they know me from somewhere. And I love that because that means I'm doing my job. You know,
Chuck Shute:but you like it when they say when they call you out for a movie or TV show
Rusty Schwimmer:it for some a little uncomfortable. A little bit, a little bit. And then I realized, Oh, my God, they're paying me a nice compliment. Rusty, be nice, you know, don't be overwhelmed. You know. And so, because it it's, it's, uh, you know, you're minding your own business, you forget that your job is public sometimes,
Chuck Shute:right? That's true. That's good. So we before you, like get, you know, went off into this amazing acting career. Was there people that were like naysayers, you know, people that tell you that you would never make it? And don't try to do that? And
Rusty Schwimmer:oh, yeah. And most of them were people I didn't know.
Chuck Shute:Or your family and friends were all real supportive.
Rusty Schwimmer:They know, they just know. I mean, I, I got really lucky chuck on that I really did. My family is everything to me. And they were so supportive. I have three sisters, and they're the coolest, most fantastic people that I think I'd be friends with, even if they weren't my family. And my mom and my dad were always very supportive. And I went to college to pretend that I wasn't gonna be an actor. And it turned out to be my actual gap year. One year of college was gap year, and I came back and I told my parents, I can't do this. I gotta go and be an actor. And my mom actually said these words. It's about fucking time.
Chuck Shute:Wow, I love that. That is amazing. That's mom of the year right there. I love it. Where were you when you were a waitress and wait on Henry Winkler because that's how you got your first break, right?
Rusty Schwimmer:Yes, sir. Are you like you're good. Um, Henry, Henry. I was at Ed depicts in Beverly Hills, and Ed depicts was this 50s Diner. And they had one in Chicago and they were opening one up in LA. And so then I could move and have a job like the Midwestern er than I am, I'm like, Well, I have to have a job, you know, before I move, and I was working in antibiotics and I was doing my Chicago accent, you know, pretending that I was Ed. Debevec sister, Rusty Debevec, you know, and I'm here in this, you know, hohai, little fancy pants, Beverly Hills here, you know, and in the 50s Diner, you were kind of rude to the customers. And so you would just sit down with them. And you'd be like, Hi, honey, what are you going to have, I ain't got all that you want to have those prices? You know? And so I sat down with Henry and his kids had red hair. And I'd always go up to other kids with red hair. And I'd be like, you know, hey, we're in this club. Right. And so being in a diabetic's, I could say whatever I wanted to say, our management would let us and I said, you know, without swearing and things like that, but I said to his kids, I said, you know, don't let anybody tell you that you're a freak. You're special. In fact, you are superior to everybody else. So I'm just saying, you know, and I was like, kidding around with them.
Chuck Shute:Did you know was Henry Winkler who you recognize, okay, totally new. It was, like, freak you out at all. Like, you're just used to having big stars in that place. You
Rusty Schwimmer:know, I got lucky if you've done a deep dive, you know who my best friend is growing up
Unknown:Virginia. Madsen. Yes, exactly.
Rusty Schwimmer:And so I had a few years where she'd be like, Hey, I'm having a party come to LA, and hang out with me and my friends. And I'd be there and it'd be like the Brat Pack. And I'd be like, Oh, okay, so I kind of got used to it, you know, that I realized humans. So I was kind of that person that go to person that was like, taking care of the celebrities in the late 80s. Because I'd be like, Hi, honey, how you doing? All right, what are you going to have? Now you don't want that that's not good. Have that have the cheeseburger? It's much better. You know? I mean, I do stuff like that. And so they kind of like to have me take care of them because I didn't go, you know, and so Henry said to me, you know, Are you an actress? And I said, No, honey, I've been in the plumbing business for seven years. Like everybody had was an actor that was working there, you know. And so then he said, Well, do you have a headshot and resume immediately? I was like, Yes, I do. Like I was. Character completely broke. After he was nice enough to give me a part in memories of me. Even though my audition was horrible, I was so nervous. He still put me and gave me my sag card and little by little by little, and it went there. And now you know, he and I talk through our friend, Stephen root who's, you know, in berry with him. And yeah, that's
Chuck Shute:the guy from office space to the million things News Radio like,
Rusty Schwimmer:yeah, yeah, he's the greatest. He's the greatest a good friend of mine. And so he, he and Henry, you know, they, he always gives me messages. And Henry and I were supposed to see each other at Stephens birthday party, but he had to go somewhere that night, so I didn't get to see him, but we're still in touch and away through other people. So it's lovely.
Chuck Shute:That's really cool. So now you did a I saw this like you did a short obviously this turned into Boogie Nights the dirk Diggler story. Yeah, candy cane or something like that. Now, was that before the memories of me or after? Before? Okay, so you you're working with PT Anderson, like back
Rusty Schwimmer:doesn t. Paul? Paul was 17 years old. webix with Kelly Conway, who I've worked on a commercial with and Kelly Conway was Tim Conway's daughter. So you can imagine how freaked out I was because Tim Conway was on The Carol Burnett overnight. Yeah. So I was aware, you know, and Kelly I knew, and she brought in this kid who I thought was like 14, but he was 17. He was just a late bloomer, you know? And he said, You know, I'm doing this movie, you want to be in this movie. And I was like, and at that point, I was like, I need some tape on myself. I've only done stage in Chicago, and a couple of commercials here in LA, what you know. And the rest is history. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:No, I haven't seen that. Because there can I find that on YouTube or something that
Rusty Schwimmer:my 25 year old self, I think yeah, yeah, exactly.
Unknown:Yeah. And they didn't cast you in the Boogie Nights.
Rusty Schwimmer:And now I think that wasn't right.
Chuck Shute:But you got like a special thanks. Or something like I know,
Rusty Schwimmer:I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe that I got a special thanks. Someone told me Hey, you were thanked in this movie. And I was like, What is this movie? They said Boogie Nights. And I was like, what is that? And they were like, it's about this guy named Dirk Diggler. And I was like, because it was called the dirk Diggler story. When we did it. Yeah. So
Chuck Shute:see pop PTN or Paul, whatever he was 17. Could you recognize the genius then? Or did he you just Oh, really? Wow.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yes. He was way ahead of his time. There. He is a 17 year old gives me a short script. And it's about porn industry. But it's a 17 year old and it's done from an adult perspective. I was like, Who's this kid? Why is he way ahead? He's way ahead. And he was he said, Fuck, you know, film school. I'm gonna watch all the laser discs making off. Right? So that's how we started because his dad was a voiceover guy. He was the voice of ABC. Ernie Anderson was his name. Okay. You remember the voice? If you heard his father's voice, you would know immediately that voice.
Chuck Shute:Okay. I didn't know that. Yeah,
Rusty Schwimmer:yeah. And so he had been around all of this stuff forever. And so he was way ahead of all of it. And so I had that while we were hanging out when he where he grew up in Sherman Oaks. He said, Hey, do you remember that guy that was Beretta? And I said, Robert Blake, right. And he said, Yeah, and he goes, Yeah, he lives around the corner. He's kind of like that, get off my lawn kind of guy. Maybe we can go there and get aggravated and have him you know, get get him aggravate him to yell at us. So we go over there and he's like, yeah, the guy's really creepy. There's something wrong with him. Years later, you know, we find out Robert Blake. Right. And he really has, huh.
Chuck Shute:Did he kill somebody in real life?
Rusty Schwimmer:Allegedly? Yeah, allegedly. They never proved it. They never proved it. But yeah, it was. It was something along those lines that Paul would, he was just way ahead. He was way ahead even at 17 and a great great down to earth dude, there's nothing weird about him. You know, just a good dude.
Chuck Shute:I'm a huge fan of his like Boogie Nights and Magnolia.
Rusty Schwimmer:Amazing movie, right? Yeah.
Chuck Shute:And what's the one I'm blanking on? Yeah, I just saw that one and then the one about oil with all that guys.
Rusty Schwimmer:There will be blood. Yes, there will be blood
Chuck Shute:and then I've been I'm spacing on the actress Same he's so good in that movie. You'll say, Louis Yes. Oh, yeah. Like yeah, yeah, you should try to rekindle that friendship and get into next PT Anderson movie.
Rusty Schwimmer:You know, I'm I'm confident it will come up organically and the way it will come up. You know, it. There's always those things where years later someone, you know, cast me in something and they said, I just remember you were 20 years ago and done another and it comes back. So I just let it happen. If it does, you know, that's good. Yeah, it's pretty
Chuck Shute:well, you worked with Spielberg right on almost all the he actually direct you or was it like the assistant director or something?
Rusty Schwimmer:Half and half? It was half an hour. Yeah. There'd be times where he was editing. I think at the time he was editing, Saving Private Ryan, I think, oh, yeah, that would make sense. Remember, that's what he was editing. And there was a scene where, you know, we were doing it. And the second A, the first ad was directing it. No second ad was directing us. Yeah. But he directed me and most of it, you know, good guy. Nice guy. It was it was it was a blur for me, because my mother was dying at the time. And so I was kind of like, what are we doing here? You know, and just waking up to find out what else was happening with my mom when I wasn't there. That kind of stuff. So, um, we shot a four hour movie. And it you know, then edited down to two and a half hours, I shot 13 scenes. And almost all of them. I think all of them were cut out. And I was relieved. Really? Because all I would have been thinking was oh, that's when this happened with my mom. I was filming that. So would have been just almost a home movie of my mother sickness. You know?
Unknown:Memories. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So
Rusty Schwimmer:in a way, I think I was being protected in some strange way. But, but I'm in it for just a little bit. So I still get residuals. God loves them.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Were you cut out? Have you did the movie with Chris Farley? Tony, you had some sort of story with him. He is amazing. I don't know
Rusty Schwimmer:your story. Yeah, I did that. Because I wanted to work with Christopher Guest.
Chuck Shute:Oh, he's a legend, too.
Rusty Schwimmer:And all I want. I didn't care if I was just doing that tiny thing. That's all it was. That's all it was. In fact, I think it was longer than what was on the script. But it's because I wanted to work with Christopher Guest because I think he's a genius. Right? And so good. Oh, my God. Hi. You know, amazing, right? So I go there in Chris Farley. I think this was what, six months before he died. I think probably you had a sober companion with him. He was sober at the time. Oh, yeah, he was sober at the time, God loved them. And he was, he was a perfectionist. And I, he, we did that scene over and over again, because I had to spit banana out the whole time. And I remember going, Okay, gotta take another bite of banana, you know, and it was so hot. We were in the middle of the desert, you know, in August, and I was wearing all that stuff, you know, but watching his process was pretty wild. Um, it was sad to see that he couldn't stay well, you know that that illness got to the best of him. But I think that if he got sober and he stayed sober, and he lived, he probably would have turned out to be a very prolific actor with more and more experience of acting. And that just makes me sad. Because I've seen a few people go that I've worked with and it's, it's, it's, I don't think that the business made them alcoholics or drug addicts. I think that they brought that in with them. And it just kind of sped it up or because it was made public. You know, we see so many go. But that's an the rest of the world too. But I'm bringing it down now aren't I am?
Chuck Shute:Oh, no, it's interesting, because it makes you think that, like, that's how they are able to do create such amazing art is from the emotion like I mean, I'm a big Guns and Roses fan. And I just look at Axl Rose. And, um, you know, his tantrums are very well documented, but I feel like that's how, if you listen, learn about his childhood and stuff. It makes sense why he's so angry. But that's how he created such great music in my opinion.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah, I mean, but then you look at other people that are not prone to mental illness or alcoholism or drug addiction, or just still very sensitive people still have really really shitty childhoods and they figure it out, and they've got that feeling. I didn't have a shitty Childhood and I still am super sensitive about things, you know. It's just how you're built in a way, you know, I think it is. But unfortunately, you know, I always joke and say being an actor or being on a set being a crew member cast, anybody making a movie or television show or a play. I call it the land of misfit toys. Because we're all welcome. Anybody that's a misfit as welcome, you know. And so there's a lot of people that because mental illness is taboo, still, they feel welcome. Because anything goes Miss Victoria, you're good to go. Come on over, come and play.
Chuck Shute:Well, I love like stories where I mean, because there are stories where people get well, and they like Robert Downey, Jr. I mean, that guy was on the verge of a drug overdose. I don't know how and then he turned it around, total 180. And as far as I know, he's been sober for like, what, 20 years or something?
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah, not amazing. It's an amazing thing. And he's got a support system. And he can figure that out. And I can't imagine how difficult that is, with the schedules that we have. You know, when I know that there's some friends of mine that are sober, that are recovering drug addicts and alcoholics, and the idea of going against a ritual a routine is really difficult. And when you're on a movie set, or you're on a television set, and you never know when you're going to work, what scene you got the next day, it's a lot of surprises. And so I don't know how he does it. I don't
Chuck Shute:probably gets exceptions, though, because he's Robert Downey Jr. Right? I mean, he probably say like, Hey, I need to do my AAA meetings from 10 to 11. Every day, they're like, we'll work around that.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah. Right. Right. Because then that way, they don't have to pay pay the big insurance. You know, it's it's that kind of thing, because for a while he couldn't get hired because they couldn't insure him.
Chuck Shute:Oh, is that a salad? No, that that's interesting thing.
Rusty Schwimmer:That's a thing. Yeah. Oh, because
Chuck Shute:Oh, they'd be a higher risk.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah, exactly. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. So
Chuck Shute:somebody must have taken a chance on him, then it's some Yeah,
Rusty Schwimmer:I think it was. If I can. If I remember correctly, it could have been Mel Gibson. Ah, it could have been him.
Chuck Shute:Where are you supposed to work? Was he supposed to be in perfect storm or something like
Rusty Schwimmer:that? Yeah, he was. He was supposed to be in it. But I think the Patriot went on too long. Okay. And so then they got George and George had just finished. Oh, brother. Where art that? That's a good one. Like he finished on a Friday flew to Massachusetts and Monday we were shooting. Yeah. How did you
Chuck Shute:learn the Boston accent for that one is that must have been fun to just do.
Rusty Schwimmer:One. So fun. I love accents. There's so much fun. Me too. Yeah, right. Right.
Chuck Shute:I mean, I love listening. I can't do I can't act but I love listening to other people's accents. If I meet someone from Texas or New York or Boston, I'm like, Oh, are you from Boston? Well,
Rusty Schwimmer:yeah, exactly. Um, you know, we had a, we had a dog dialect coach, Carla Meyer, or in Boston, you'd say Carla Maya. So Carla, Maya was a dialect coach. And she was brilliant. And people learned dialogue and dialects in different ways. My father is a musician and my family are all musicians. So musicians can hear the music of it a little bit. And so a combination of my training and music. I love dialects, and I can catch on pretty well. And if you immerse yourself, you're good. So like John Hawkes and I were the only ones basically that were not stars. And so we could infiltrate ourselves into bars and hear these people talk and, and pretend that we were from like the town of, you know, so they're like, where are you from? We're like, assets. Oh, that's why I've never seen you before, you know. And so it's this kind of thing. It was really great.
Unknown:That was so cool. That was so fun.
Rusty Schwimmer:It was so fun. And
Chuck Shute:that's a good point. You can you're at that level, like you're clearly a successful actress, but you're not like you don't get mobbed. You can go out to dinner and stuff. And
Rusty Schwimmer:I have the best of both worlds. Completely the best. I get to have the experiences, and I don't have the repercussions. Well, yeah.
Chuck Shute:And you're and you're friends with all these big stars. You're friends with James Gunn, and Virginia Madsen. Oh, that's crazy, man. You just said I
Rusty Schwimmer:knew them all before they were famous though. Do you know what I mean? It's like it I've known. I've known well, Virginia and I went to high school together.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, that one So James, and a lot of them,
Rusty Schwimmer:so I knew him. I think he was just about to start writing Scooby Doo.
Chuck Shute:I still do these people, does it? Do they typically change when they get success? Or do they just become an exaggerated version of themselves? Like if they're really if they're a good person before they become even a better person, like they've gotten more generous and things are?
Rusty Schwimmer:Good question. That's a really good question. From what I've seen, with a lot of people around me, it's not that they change, it's that the people around them change. And the only thing that is changed, it's usually just alter, which is they're more guarded. That's about it. They're a little bit more guarded. But for the most part, it's the people around them say you've changed because their idea of them changed, right? So they see Virginia with a bunch of fancy people at the Academy Awards, and they go, Oh, she's not like she wasn't high school. Yes, she was. Yes, she is. She's still that magical unicorn that I knew in high school, you know, and, but, but other people's idea of what they're supposed to be like, they say that they've changed and they haven't really, but exaggerated. I think there's a point to that. Chuck, I think you have a really good point there, that certain things are exaggerated. Like, you know, James has always been about his friends. He's always been about wanting his friends to have a family. And, you know, that's what Guardians of the Galaxy is. You know, it really is like making your family from these friends, you know, yeah. And he's all about that. He's always been that way. And now he's, yes, it's exaggerated now into his work, you know, right. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:Whereas like, I could see like some people that were maybe narcissistic or kind of assholes, and then they get success, then they become a bigger narcissist and a bigger asshole like,
Rusty Schwimmer:you see that? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But, you know, I've got to be honest, there's very few people I've run into their assholes. And strangely enough, the movie stars, movie stars that I've worked with, are usually the most grounded and intelligent people. I know that around the set. You know, the George Clooney is the Charlize Theron's. They're intelligent, grounding, grounded people. Fabulous. You know, we're
Chuck Shute:happy, right?
Rusty Schwimmer:You know, look, is everybody I mean, we all have bouts of happiness and unhappiness, right? Um, for the most part, yes. Happy. Hard working. Um, yeah, for the most part happy. I think the ones that are not happy are the ones that you were just talking about the narcissistic. Couple of them, you know,
Chuck Shute:ya know, I've since I've started this podcast, I've like 270 episodes. And I've had like, I mean, I've had a lot of, I've had some pretty big names, and I've had some smaller names. But I mean, like, when I had David do Cavani on that was weird, because I you can tell why he's such a big, he's so likable. And I think I had like I said, 270 people, nobody ever asked me like, questions, David to come to us, like, Hey, what's that on your wall? He was asking me all these questions. I was like, what you're curious about me like you're the big star like, this is? It was interesting. It was like really honest, like, I could see why he's so popular.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But most actors worth their salt are curious human beings. You know, that's why we go into what we go into. Right?
Chuck Shute:I heard you say that you're really fascinated by human behavior. I am, too. I have my degrees in psychology like, Oh, really? Yeah. I love psychology. I love reading books about psychology, self help, all that stuff is like, a human behavior is fascinating to me.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah. Yeah. You know, and social psychology is this new thing that I've been looking at to like, I'm like, should I go back to school to become a social psychologist, you know, but in a way, you're using your your, you know, diploma to do this, right?
Chuck Shute:I think so. A little bit. Yeah, like listening and the counseling skills. Well, I try not to counsel my guests too much. But sometimes they do. Sometimes they break down and then I got to go into counselor mode.
Rusty Schwimmer:So what do you do what what has happened? Like what's happened a few times when they've done that?
Chuck Shute:I'm trying to remember, I know it's happened a couple times. But yeah, somebody will. You know, sometimes they'll just be talking about something. Yeah, they'll just they'll break down and just cry. And I'll just kind of console them and go into counselor mode. And I mean, it's pretty rare but it's happened if you
Rusty Schwimmer:change the subject, or do you go deeper? What do you do?
Chuck Shute:I just try to reflect back and, and just talk about it. I don't try to go I don't try to push it. I just try to read them if they want to talk about I let them talk about it because usually that's pretty interesting stuff, but I don't want to be too pushy, because I've done I've tried to go that route when I first started. And I had a guy on and I knew his backstory was really fascinating to me. And he'd been through drugs and all this stuff. And I was trying to bring that up. And I don't think he wanted to talk about it. And so that was like, I felt really bad. And that was on me. That was my mistake. But
Rusty Schwimmer:well, you learn from it didn't Yeah,
Chuck Shute:I did. I did learn from that. Yes. I learned. I actually had a guy who's a journalist. And and he said something really? I don't know if you know, Torah. He was like, he was the one that broke the story about our Kelly. and stuff. But anyways, Oh,
Rusty Schwimmer:yes. Yes, absolutely. actually wrote a book about
Chuck Shute:prints. And I had him on the show. And he gave me good advice. He's like, you know, you just need to listen to your guests. I was like, oh, that's, you know, I was a counselor. Like, I should know that. And that was really good advice.
Rusty Schwimmer:So were you so you did actually use your diploma to be a counselor?
Chuck Shute:Oh, yeah. I was. I was a school counselor for 17 years. Yeah.
Rusty Schwimmer:Oh, holy crap. High school, middle school. Both? Both? Yeah. Do you That's heavy.
Chuck Shute:But a lot of it the problem was like, I didn't get to use my degree. Oh, it was a lot of paperwork and a lot of like, changing schedules. And I wanted to do the, the counseling but yeah, I feel like at least with the show, I can have sometimes have like, really deep and that's my goal is have like really deep philosophical conversation. I love hearing stories, like, you know, success stories, like how people get to the part, you know, their origin stories, like how they become what they become like, how you grew up, and you wanted to be an actress since you're a little kid. And then, you know, you get this break from Henry Winkler I love that kind of stuff. And like hearing how it all works out for you. Like, I hope that happens to me someday. I hope I can tell that story.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah, you know, it is an amazing thing. I was just talking to someone that I mentor. And we were just talking about, you know, she's going away to Copenhagen for like hers a semester. And she was like any advice, what's been going on, you stay open, stay open to everything. She's like, I want to have all the stories that you have. And I said, it's because you got to stay open. You know. And it's, it's that whole, I think it's so great that you're you get to stay open to learn about other people's stories. I think it informs your life in a way, right?
Chuck Shute:Ya know, for sure I learned so I try to take it all in and try to learn like How do these people do this? Like when I have a David to company on I'm like, how did he do this? Like, how did he become? And I think for some of it, it's just like, they're naturally born with this like talent. I mean, yes, they work really hard to and there's a lot of those stories where people didn't have necessarily the most talent, but they just worked really hard or they they put themselves in the right situation. Like I don't know if you're a country music fan, but I had Jason LD ins drummer on and that was really interesting, just because he told me, he played in Nashville and he played with a bunch of different bands, different styles of music, like reggae and rock and, and then he just found Jason Aldean. And he's like, I'm gonna hitch my wagon to this guy. And then I mean, he's he's, like set for life, basically be in JSON LD ins drummer,
Rusty Schwimmer:that's awesome. And then he gets to do what he loves to do.
Chuck Shute:Yeah. And he's got a lot of people in Nashville that he was going up with, that were, you know, the same time playing music. They were better musicians than him, but they quit. They had a family or they did this and, and he just kept going, and it paid off. I'm like, Oh, that is so inspiring to me.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah, there's a lot of those stories, you know, and that's why I say keep chopping the wood, go look at the pile. And after a while, when you look at the pile, you're like, there's not enough or there's not, you know, and if you don't look at that you just are open and you have these experiences. The next thing you know, you're on a podcast with someone 35 years later and saying, Hey, these are the stories.
Chuck Shute:You must have had slumps, right. Like how did you like for me? I cannot get a guess. I don't know. Like when your publicist, email me. I was like, Oh, yes, please. I knew your name. I knew that some of the roles that you did, I was like, so excited. But how do you deal with that rejection, like 134 credits? How many times you must have like at least double that, that where you didn't get the role? Right?
Rusty Schwimmer:More than double. If you really take a look at the odds. Maybe one out of 100 auditions that you have maybe if you're lucky like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, no, it's back. Breaking work. is working on a set for 16 hours to me is a vacation.
Unknown:I get that. Yeah.
Rusty Schwimmer:Like, why does summer camp, you know? Yeah, like I was just in South Carolina. I do a recurring role on the righteous gemstones. Yeah. For HBO, Europe. And I was just playing, I play Sheriff Brenda. And so sure. Brenda came down. I was there a couple of weeks ago, and I was like, Oh, this is awesome. You know, I get to like play again. I could just hang out, you know, and I worked one day, and it was a 10 hour day. And it seemed like it was only three hours. And everybody was like 10 hours. And I was like, short day, short day, you know, it was a really short day, because you're doing what you love. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But auditioning Holy crap. So I guess the answer to your question on that whole thing in terms of slumps is a good friend of mine, a great actor who you see on so many commercials, his name is Chip O'Neill, Chip, said to me one time I was in one of those slumps, and he said, You know, I just truly believe that the universe is just saying, if you don't have anything to work on, it's time to work on yourself. And I was like, Oh, shit, you know. So I keep that in mind, where I work on myself, whether it's on hobbies that I have, or something that I need to do on a spiritual level, or mentor, like I do, here in Chicago. And, um, you know, that's kind of what I do when I'm doing that. And, you know, I just took up meditation.
Chuck Shute:What kind of meditation? I don't
Rusty Schwimmer:know, just the kind I'm doing where I'm just trying to breathe and stay in the moment, you know, and not worry and not have any fear or not have any of that. And a lot of times I sometimes I do it just with myself, sometimes I put something that is on YouTube, where it's like, it's called the mindful movement. I like this woman's voice. I have a saying about people's voices. So
Unknown:when their second girl it's like, Okay, now we're gonna breathe it out.
Rusty Schwimmer:Like, no, no. Next one, you know?
Chuck Shute:Wow, that was cool. You just changed your voice though. I was wondering that. Because in Wild Honey, when it starts off, and it's you doing the sex phone operator voice, I was like, that's not really your voice. I was like, that's like, oh, that's like a voice over actress. And I was and then I think I realized like, No, that is your voice. That's amazing. That's
Unknown:me. That's me. Yeah, that was so cool. I was in LA for a really long time. For like, a really long time, like, older than I'm playing right now. Yeah. You can do you get voiceover work for that, too? I
Rusty Schwimmer:do. I do. And I do. Like little I can do little kids and stuff, too. So I could do that. Wait, show
Unknown:me a little kid voice. Now I want to show you now. Wow.
Chuck Shute:How do you learn that? Is it just a lot of practice? Are there certain techniques that you can learn that make it easier?
Rusty Schwimmer:Like I said, I was really curious as a kid, you know, in my family, we took a lot of like, car trips, you know, we didn't go on the plane. So we would go in around these like towns and you would hear people. And I was just fascinated by it. And so I would hear them and just imitate them. So we would like leave somewhere and there'd be some character like somewhere in Tennessee or something and they're telling you about something. And we would get back in the car and my sisters would be like, Okay, go, because they knew I was just like, watching hearing, you know, that kind of stuff. And so that's kind of how it started.
Chuck Shute:That's cool. But it is like clearly, like a natural talent that you that you have that you can do that. Yeah, I
Rusty Schwimmer:mean, that's the thing. It's like, you know, you can have these raw talents and you can have these natural talents and thank you, but it's, but you still have to hone it. You still have that out, right? It's like as you know, as it as the Jason Aldean drummer drummer said, you know, there were people that were better than him, but he just kept working hard, and he kept working hard. It's like that kind of stuff. So you kind of have to keep honing it. And I also was a singer. And so that helps to to strengthen like your range and stuff. So that's why I can do it so high, you know, because of the singing, that kind of stuff. Yeah, there's always music playing in my house as I was growing up, always. The TV wasn't on the music was,
Unknown:what kind of music everything, mostly Ragtime
Rusty Schwimmer:and Dixieland jazz.
Chuck Shute:Oh, really interest. I love that Old Time jazz. I went to New Orleans for the first time. And we walked in and it was like this old time. They were wearing like suits and they're playing the bat and I was like, Oh, this is so cool. I want to go back. I was like,
Rusty Schwimmer:city is I love it. Oh my God. Have You Ever Have you heard of Trombone Shorty? In New Orleans? Trombone Shorty. He plays the whole thing with the trombones and trombones is a huge, huge thing in traditional jazz, you know? Sure. You know, they have, they have just trombone bands, and he comes out of New Orleans. You should Check him out. We went to New Orleans all the time when I was a kid because my father played that music. And so he would play sometimes. And we go to the Jazz Fest, and you know, it would be a family outing, you know, but he my father, still, I don't think he does it anymore because he's 90 years old. But he played the washboard Wow. And he had, you know, symbols and stuff like that. And he didn't play it on his chest, like so many people in zydeco, he would put it in between his legs and play both sides, you know?
Unknown:Oh, that's so cool. I love that kind of stuff.
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah, it was cool. So I grew up with that. That's like, in my head. That's like a lullaby. If I hear a ragtime or something, it's like a lullaby.
Chuck Shute:You know, aren't you doing a movie? About the 1920s? Called, you can't win? What? Tell me about that one? Is that coming out? Oh, gosh,
Rusty Schwimmer:you know, I don't know what happened with that.
Unknown:Are you not in anymore,
Rusty Schwimmer:I'm in the thing is, is that we shot that in 2013 14, oh, my god, really. And then Michael Pitt, who was the lead and brought this whole thing together. I've worked with him on another film, and he wanted me to be in this film. And it's based on a real story about a guy named Jack Black. Who was he was what you call a hobo in the, you know, in the in the in the cars, and it's basically the story of him and how he went over all through the West, the Northwest, and I played a woman that actually existed in salt chunk, Mary. And there was actually an opera written about her I found this out, which is really odd. And he said, My dream is to then wait a few years. And then we film again. And we're actually that many years later. Okay, we tried to like boyhood. Yes. Like boyhood. Exactly. But I haven't heard anything. I don't know if it's going to be happening or not. When I'm up for it. If he's doing it. He's got a pretty good test, right? Yeah, it's pretty cool. I mean, Jeremy Alan White who the bear and and shameless was in it, also. And I mean, Michael Pitt is one of the most interesting people I've ever met. He's just his own being it to me. He's like an alien that dropped down into the into the world. Oh, and lovely, lovely, sweet soul. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:Did you say? No, you worked with Anthony Hopkins. And this This was interesting. I didn't know this. You said he was a goofball. And he was like, impersonating people that is interest.
Rusty Schwimmer:Serious, one of the greatest impersonators. That's amazing. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. He's
Chuck Shute:never done like Saturday Night Live or something that or has he?
Rusty Schwimmer:I don't think he's that guy. Like, I didn't really talk to him. I just watched him on the set. You know what I mean? I didn't really talk to him. I, uh, Pete Postlethwaite. I was talking to Stellan Skarsgard Morgan Freeman, those guys I was talking to more than I did Anthony Hopkins. And Matthew McConaughey. Oh, no, I worked with him later after that. So I never really talked to him either. Until we did Ed TV, like two years later, I think. But just watching him on the set. I was in the, you know, I was in the stands. You know, I was in the gallery. And he was just cutting up and it was quiet. It was wild. Yeah. That's interesting. Well, like most British actors, I'm a shameless anglophile because the British actors do it. Like it's just a good day at work. So they don't take themselves too seriously. They just take the work seriously, but not themselves. And so they're they are doing their thing. And they're like, you know, not a lot of other talent show up and they're like, and action. Because they did all that work beforehand, in their hotel room at their home, you know what I mean? And then they're gonna do
Chuck Shute:you like a method acting? Or are they really do you ever do you ever really get into a character like that where you do like a method thing? Like, like Jim Carrey and man on the moon? Like he he was Andy Kaufman for like, three months?
Rusty Schwimmer:Yeah, I that's not my style. That's not my style. I think it I think it takes either a masochist or a really strong human being to do that all the time. I don't know which one is which? I am. I don't know if I'm either. I don't know if I'm strong enough. And I'm certainly not a masochist. So for my own mental health, I need to have some relief. If I'm gonna go that deep because I'll go deep, you know, but I'll use to go deep. I use Different lots of people do different tools. I use music. You know how certain music get you in a mood. Right? Right. Like, think of the music you want to play if you're if you're not feeling great and you want to get out of it. You know what I mean? Yeah, right.
Chuck Shute:That's true. I love music. I've had a lot of musicians on the show and I can't play music. I can't sing a tune, but I love listening to it.
Rusty Schwimmer:Besides Guns and Roses, who are your people? Oh, my.
Chuck Shute:I mean, I love Hair Metal. I've had a lot of hair metal people on the show. I love that stuff. But I also love like, I mean, I love like Elliott Smith. I don't know if you know from
Rusty Schwimmer:Oh my god. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:I love old jazz. I love blues. I mean, I like the only thing I mean, I like most styles of music. I mean, I love live music. Like I love going to see people perform like a Nashville and Austin. And they do more than just country and stuff there. I mean, just like I said the jazz in New Orleans. I mean, that was just, I was I couldn't watch that for hours. It was amazing. Right? So cool. Excited about you. What's your favorite? Funk? I like funk. Funk is my jam. I don't know what it is. I haven't seen funk live but yeah, that would be fun to see like bass playing and
Rusty Schwimmer:stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's that's, that's that's my jam.
Chuck Shute:That's like George parliament. Oh, my God. Of
Rusty Schwimmer:course. You know, George Clinton, Parliament. You know, all that.
Chuck Shute:George Clinton parliament. Funkadelic. That's what Yeah, yeah, that kind of stuff. Okay. And
Rusty Schwimmer:then out of New Orleans is a band called the meters, which were a lot of the Neville Brothers. And check out the meters deal deal. You'll love them. And okay, ers.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, I got some homework to do. When I when I watch this back. I'll write this stuff down. And very cool. Well, this has been amazing. You got some amazing stories. And like I didn't even ask you about Jason goes to hell. So because there's enough interviews with you at you talking like there's interviews, there's entire interviews with you talking about Jason goes to hell.
Rusty Schwimmer:Those are the one thing that they want to interview me about. And I'm always like, okay, and I am done with that. I think it's cool.
Chuck Shute:You have 134 credits. Like that's not the top of my list personally, but it is cool that you got to that was a fun one too. I'm sure. So,
Rusty Schwimmer:I mean, I did that for Virginia, and our other friend Jean, because that's what we did in high school. We love that stuff. So yeah, that's very
Chuck Shute:cool. I love horror movies, too. So very cool. I always end each episode promoting a charity. Is there a charity that you're that's near and dear to your heart? Or?
Rusty Schwimmer:Absolutely. Oh, thank you. That's lovely. Thank you so much for that. Um, every year this is my jam is United Negro College Fund. UNCF. That's, that's my dad. My jam.
Chuck Shute:I love it. Yeah, that's still that's still around. I remember seeing the commercials in the 80s when I was a kid.
Rusty Schwimmer:Right. Right. And it's still around and still very much needed. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. For our country to really be truly representative of what our world is getting back to the beginning. Look at that. Ah, going back to the thing is, is that it's it we need to show the rest of the world what our country really truly is about. And I think that with UNCF they're making sure that people are getting proper education to then pay it forward.
Chuck Shute:Absolutely. No, that's a beautiful thing. I love it. I'll put that in the show notes along Do you have a website? I can't remember or I know you have Instagram.
Rusty Schwimmer:i Oh, I do I have an Instagram.
Chuck Shute:Is that the best way for people to follow you or Facebook or Twitter? What do you prefer?
Rusty Schwimmer:Just Instagram. Okay. And it's at rusty Schwinn. Okay,
Chuck Shute:I'll put that in the notes to them. Thank you so much. This has been a blast.
Rusty Schwimmer:Thank you so much, Chuck. You're adorable. I have.
Chuck Shute:All right. Thank you. Okay. Thanks again. The rusty swimmer. Love her stories. Love her work as an actress. I love this conversation. I love her. So what a great human being. Make sure to check out her work and Scrooge and Marley and also check out her as a lead and wild honey. I really enjoyed that one, or watch any of her other 134 different movies or TV shows that she's been in. What a great career. Make sure to follow her on Instagram supporter and follow me on the show on there too. If you want to support us. Your likes, comments and shares on YouTube and social media are always appreciated. Have a great rest of your day and shoot for the moon.