Chuck Shute Podcast

Desi Bartlett, Nicole Stuart & Andrea Orbeck (Fitness Trainers & Authors)

August 27, 2022 Desi Bartlett, Andrea Orbeck, Nicole Stuart, Season 4 Episode 272
Chuck Shute Podcast
Desi Bartlett, Nicole Stuart & Andrea Orbeck (Fitness Trainers & Authors)
Show Notes Transcript

Nicole Stuart, Andrea Orbeck & Desi Bartlett are celebrity fitness trainers and authors. Together they wrote a new book “Total Body Beautiful” which is available now for Amazon pre-order.  The book includes celebrity endorsements from Ashley Tisdale, Anna Faris and Heidi Klum, along with a foreword by Kate Hudson. In this interview we discuss some of the topics in the book including diet, exercise, hormones, mental health, meditation and more! 

0:00:00 - Intro
0:00:42 - Author Introductions 
0:03:42 - Meeting Each Other 
0:06:32 - Writing a Book Together 
0:08:29 - Celebrity Endorsements 
0:11:35 - Reversing Aging & Hormones 
0:18:22 - Healthy Diet & Nutritional Profile 
0:22:01 - Making the Mental Shift to Healthy 
0:24:30 - Changing Habits & Comfort Zones 
0:26:35 - Gyms 
0:27:22 - Celebrity Diets for Films 
0:29:45 - Motivation & Saying Things Out Loud 
0:31:12 - Energy Vampires & Choosing Your Tribe 
0:35:42 - Kia Kia, Expressing Emotions & Meditation 
0:39:25 - Pilates & Emotion 
0:40:35 - Why Strength Training Is Important 
0:42:55 - Variety of Workouts & Adaptation 
0:44:20 - Starting Exercise 
0:46:30 - Insiders Tips & Treating It Like a Game 
0:49:06 - Workout Names & Having Fun 
0:50:22 - Wine Workout 
0:51:21 - Video Supplement 
0:52:30 - Fat Shaming & Body Positivity 
0:59:05 - Short Film 40ish 
1:00:30 - Book Release & Party 
1:03:30 - PS I Love You Foundation 
1:04:55 - Outro 

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Chuck Shute:

All right, well, this is a really fun one celebrity trainer Nicole Stewart is back. And she brought friends. If you remember, we had Nicole on the show back in episode 45. That was before the show was even on Zoom, it was just a phone call. So she's here today. And she's got two other celebrity trainers with her, Desi Bartlett and Andrea or Beck. And together, these three ladies have written a book called total body beautiful. It's great. It's a great read, very informative. And this was a really fun interview, get to know these lovely ladies and learn all about their book right now. Each Introduce yourself so that the people that aren't seeing it can hear the voice that goes with the name. And then you can tell a little bit about your background and qualifications.

Nicole Stuart:

Who wants to first? Go on ahead? Oh, yes. Welcome back. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for having us again. Um, my name is Nicole Stewart, and I am a Pilates trainer, and writer, and you know, slash slash actor. And I've been training Pilates for over 20 years. I was trained by Marie Windsor. I started in the 90s. And I worked for her for about four or five years. And then I went off on my own and I've been working for myself ever since. And I have a dance background. I grew up in Las Vegas. And I think maybe that's enough about me. That's a lot

Chuck Shute:

more they can listen to our interview that we talk about your whole life story for an hour. So

Desi Bartlett:

yeah, exactly. Yes. Okay. Okay, hi. My name is Desi Bartlett, and I'm originally from Chicago. I have my degree in kinesiology, my master's degree in corporate fitness. And this year, I went back to school, I'm getting my PhD in exercise science. This is my second book that I've written. My first one is called your strong sexy pregnancy. I also specialize in pre and postnatal yoga and fitness. I created the round yoga mat with Manduca yoga. I've done a ton of videos 10 DVDs when DVDs were a thing, and you can find me on Beachbody on demand.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, very cool.

Andrea Orbeck:

Nice. I am the third author of this book total body beautiful. My name is Andrea or back. I'm Canadian born and when I retired from the Women's National bobsled team. After the 2002 Olympics, I moved to California to start to work kind of in a clinical environment. My background is kinesiology, I do have a little bit of preparing and postnatal specialty. And so I kind of just was working with a client doing some physio type stuff and I got picked up by a celebrity and from there I kind of got the golden handshake which kept me in the US and so from there, I was able to kind of use some of my specialties and then from there, I was able to create like a DVD program. And so that was great after my experience with that a lot of the supermodel girls with Victoria's Secret. So once you become the Pied Piper of all things bikini, you kind of get you stay in LA which I've done. And so from there, I just you know, see clients, I do fitness and a little bit of physio, just depending on what the person needs. And so there I am in between clients right now talking to you.

Chuck Shute:

Oh, very cool. Wow. So how do you guys all know each other? How did you all meet each other?

Nicole Stuart:

Go ahead. I forgot.

Andrea Orbeck:

I feel like when you're at our level, if I do say so ourselves, I feel like we're always one degree separated from each other. And so, you know, with all of us still being intertwine under the category of fitness. Even though we have kind of different areas of specificity. We always kind of know one another in Hollywood, you know, and then I think it just gets narrower and narrower or through friends that know each other or events and stuff like that. So I feel like Nicole and I met through the

Nicole Stuart:

maybe the gym I was gonna say we would be worked at this same gym for a long time I would always see and yeah, but I don't really initially remember being introduced to you or how we because I remember like we went out a couple of times to Lori maybe.

Andrea Orbeck:

Lori that's how we know Desi, I would say that's our common denominator is our friend Laurie Bregman who is phenomenal at everything actually having to do with the pregnancy space. So I think we got with disease area. Yeah, that was our that was our common denominator.

Chuck Shute:

So you guys are all friends. I mean, obviously you wrote this book together. So you're kind of like on a team. You're not competing with each other for clients or things like that. You

Andrea Orbeck:

know, in fact, we actually share a lot of clients. So a lot of us because we kind of have our different categories, we've had the, the, you know, the blessing to be able to work with people, especially industry related depending on you know, like, this book is going to affirm where they are in their areas, you know, mostly as females, we all work with men, of course, too. But, uh, you know, that tends to be our highest common, you know, gender of clients. And so I yeah, that's, that's where it is, we've each complimented, we have several clients that are actually high profile industry people that each of us have worked with them in our area specificity. So I don't even know if that was in the back of our minds when they decided to aggregate what we do in this book, would you guys say that's true?

Desi Bartlett:

Yeah, for sure. And I call us the dream team, because in addition to each of us having separate specialties, which really cool because we can support one another and support the client, ultimately, the other thing that I think is worth mentioning is that there's no competition personally, either. And to have two women like in my corner all the time, no matter what the three of us, I think, during the pandemic, especially. That was huge. You know, we were also isolated, and we were all stuck in our houses. And so we got together and we're like, Well, what can we do for others that we're doing for one another, and for our clients? So I just think it bears mentioning that I feel so supported by these women, and I hope they feel supported by me as well.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. So how do you write a book with three people? Like, how does that how does that make it easier or harder,

Nicole Stuart:

easier, easier. It was very, it was very, it was I hate to say easy, but it was very easy. It was all like Desi is actually she's being very modest. But Desi is the one it was her idea to pull us all together. And she actually chose us, I would say. And she had this idea. And she pitched it to me. And I thought, Wow, that's a really great idea. And then COVID happened. And then she told me. Yeah, I brought in Andrea, or I'm like, Oh, my God, I know, Andrea, we you know, we've shared clients at this point. We've, I totally know, Andrea. And it sort of started from that point forward. And then COVID. So it was it was a very cool opportunity to have this project through COVID. And I don't know,

Chuck Shute:

yeah, no, it's cool. It's I read the book. It's a great book. I know, it's about women's health, but I think men should I'm going to help you sell this to men too, because I think men should read it for two reasons. One, I think a lot of the concepts apply to men, I know some of the stuff is more towards you know about, you know, estrogen and women's hormones and things like that. But a lot of you know, there's a lot of overlap with a lot of the concepts and also I think it's good for us to read this to learn about women because we don't know anything. We're idiots. We and so we're I'm like reading this I'm like, oh, okay, this like this thing's learning about women. We have girlfriends, we have wives and, you know, mothers and sisters. So it's good for us to know these things to help you understand women, which again, we don't know a lot about you guys. So it was really educational for me. I really enjoyed it. But let's start with the the recommendations. That's really cool that you've got because you guys talk about you're very like kind of under the radar about the recommendations, but the book I mean, it has Julia Roberts, Ashley Tisdale, Anna Faris, Heidi Klum, and then Kate Hudson, does the foreword. Talk about that, like how did you I mean, it must have been easy to get Kate to do because you work with her all the time. Right, Nicole?

Nicole Stuart:

Well, yeah, for sure. You know, I mean, I've known her for so long now. It's been 20 plus years, I can't even believe I'm saying that. Her first baby, just graduated high school, and he's like, on his way to college. And I'm like, Oh, my God, how did that happen? So it felt like a very natural thing to do to ask her to write the foreword. And we had talked about it and it was my idea. And I just thought, you know what, it just it never hurts to ask and it just felt like the right thing to do because we've grown so close over the years and we're like sisters, as she always says so. He was happy to do it. So it was very exciting to actually be able to ask for that and have her reciprocate the offer back you know, and it was very generous and kind and it made us all very excited because actually how I met Desi was through Well, our friend Laurie who keeps it all goes back to Lori, but Desi worked with Kim Hey, during her last pregnancy, so I had I never met her in passing. But she would say, Oh, I did yoga with Desi two days ago. So let's focus on this or you know what I mean? So that's when I first started hearing about Desi. And then. And then Desi sent me a yoga mat, and then I posted it because I thought it was really cool. Because it was round. And then I don't know, and then it sort of flourished from there.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, well, it definitely lends a lot of credibility to have those names saying that, you know, you guys are, like you said, the Dream Team, basically. And that just solidifies it.

Andrea Orbeck:

Yeah, I agree. And I feel like with celebrities, you know, when we have had the relationships that we've had with our celebrities for so long, circling back to this book being collaborative, and these, you know, us three women lifting each other up, and the aforementioned not being competitive, I think the spirit behind that also is reflected with a lot of our celebrity clients, because they were happy for us to have what we do for them do for other women, and for them to endorse it, they knew the power of being able to kind of heighten what they've experienced from us to get to, you know, women that might not have the chance to access us. And so that's kind of how I felt that my quotes came in with that intention. So it just, it just felt winwin and very collaborative on a larger scale as well, you know, and so that was so appreciated.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. So I started reading it. And it's like, it starts off in a way it kind of starts off kind of dark, right? Because it's tell it's talking about the hormones and aging, and I'm just going oh, wow, this, this is depressing, like, you know, but then it's like, you got to stick with it. Because then it's then you talk about how exercise and diet can actually make a huge difference in in reversing a lot of these things, right? What did it what was recorded said, If hormonal aging were broken down car fitness and wellness would be a Lamborghini. I love that.

Andrea Orbeck:

Thank you. Good. I'm glad you did. No, I think it is akin to that. And if if life is loving yourself and wanting to know all the things about yourself, be it mental and physical, and you know, hormonal, you have to take those pitstops. And that is just simply a truth. If we're pretending that life is going to be lived through a filter of how you present yourself, you're going to be severely disappointed. And those things have their place too. But in all reality, as women do have phases every decade and things do happen. And if you start out really fit, and you want to maintain it or conversely, if you're not super fit, and you start seeing the effects of age, which are an undeniable situation, what better than to have a mechanic, the three of us be able to help you translate and understand what is happening. What are the hormones that affect you men and women, you know, and so what can you do about it, and I just think that it helps empower people and women to know and navigate their own bodies changes because then it arms you to be able to talk to doctors about those changes, which sometimes is another issue in women's lives where they're kind of minimized, and they're not really taken seriously, or the symptoms that a woman will go through preparing post menopause tend to have symptoms, and then we're just kind of told, Oh, well, that's just the way you're gonna deal with it. And that's not the options for women. And we know so much now that we you know, we want to arm women and so I hope that it translates and benefits them that way.

Desi Bartlett:

Yeah, and to Echo to Echo what Andy's saying, I work with a lot of hormones, whether it's because I'm working with a pregnant woman, or a woman who's moving through menopause, or even men, you know, as, as men start to age in the reduction of testosterone, and generally what happens within the medical community, like we love our doctors, and especially our doctors who are really awake and, and want to have a holistic approach. But hormone replacement therapy, HRT is what's usually given to women at menopause. And it can create a lot of problems. And sometimes the side effects from HRT are worse than the side effects from menopause itself. So what can we do that's natural and positive that can work is an intervention for you. And so we find that exercise and Mind Body practices can really do that. But we have a little bit from from each category, right? We want to have the yoga and the meditation and the core strength and the fitness, the resistance training for the strengthen the bones, and the list kind of goes on and on. But to have one person kind of do all that would be like, a little too much. So to have as each working together as a team and tandem and holding hands. And I believe Andy put it as embracing the client together embracing the woman joining hands and embracing her to lift her that feels that feels like it's a little bit safer, more empowering and just a better choice for a lot of women.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, I worry about the hormone replacement stuff and I even see in men are doing a lot of that today you're seeing younger and younger men, I think legally now taking isn't HGH or testosterone and stuff like that? And I don't I feel like that's because once you take the artificial hormones, your body naturally stops producing them, right?

Andrea Orbeck:

Well, if you have five yes and, and bioidenticals are a whole other category, which would be a whole other podcast and probably a whole other book. And so that said, not being a, you know, an OBGYN or an endocrinologist, we need to know what our levels are to be able to make very informed decisions about how, you know, the decision to explore things that mimic the reduction of the hormones that are lost during Age, both men and women, we need to be able to have educated conversations about them to know what are all the modalities that we can do, what are the things that impact me from in regards to sleep and, you know, cortisol as an example, you know, you maybe you don't have adrenal failure, if we were to just hypothetically say, but you have a lot of stress in your life, but then you still want to lose this extra 10 pounds that say, menopause has brought onto your life, which is natural, and a normal thing. If you were to want to kind of combat that you need to get your stress levels down, not even saying, you know, we're assigning yourself someone who says, I have adrenal fatigue, you know, which is controversial too. So we want to be able to equip women to do everything they can, in conjunction to supporting them with a conversation with their doctor, or whoever would you know, help them navigate those decisions, there's a lot of things you can do up until that conversation. And I think rather than running to that conversation with your physician, first, you should be empowered to know what are all the things that I can do, not only to make myself feel good, let's say on the hormone level, but just to, to feel great in other aspects of our lives, you know, wellness and peace and being able to not be in a stressed environment and have energy for your kids. And even then, to look at things like your sex life, it's just, it's a huge Gambit, and it deserves so much attention. It probably could end up being five more books in total, dealing with it. But hopefully, we've cracked the ice on this first one.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. So basically, you know, if you read this book, and you do a lot of these recommendations, you may be able to forego some of the hormone hormones like I would think like that has its place, but you, I'm assuming most people would prefer not to be on hormones, I'd rather be able to do with diet and exercise. At least I would.

Andrea Orbeck:

Right. That's a good question. I think that's a really good question. And I think that, you know, if someone were to be told, let's say, hypothetically, again, using hypotheticals, if you have, you know, if you're overweight, and then you have obesity related diseases that you're susceptible to, do we necessarily run and go on Lipitor, or run and go on and do these other modalities, whereas there's things that we can take to delay the onset of how severe hormones do affect us, or delay the severity. And those things are within your control before you need to kind of consult the clinical, you know, community which has its place it has its conversations, but let's Why don't we equip ourselves with all these things we can do that are maybe overdue, or that we need to be reminded or even given a program that we can follow to see how potential you can feel before kind of going the synthetic route.

Chuck Shute:

Right. So with the diet, that's a huge part of it, I think. You say clean proteins, healthy fats, antioxidant rich, rich veggies and low sugar. So how do you find the specifics on like, grams of fats, protein, sugar, and carbs? Is there? Is there a set percentage? Or is there an app that you recommend using or do?

Andrea Orbeck:

Girls? Do you remember the app we referred to? I'm so sorry, I yeah, I should have looked at my notes for that one.

Desi Bartlett:

I don't think we used it was like it's fit PAL or something like that? Oh, my. Yes. Yeah, that's what I need to. So everyone's macronutrient and micronutrient requirements are going to be slightly different, right? So when we're talking about macros, we're talking about carbs, proteins, and fat. And then within those, we have to kind of look at, like, what quality is each one, you know, when we're talking about carbs, I'm not going to hand you a bunch of white bread. I'm going to give you some like really healthy grains and veggies. But what I have found, specifically with women, as as we go through menopause, is that it can be a little bit more beneficial to increase the protein and the fat for satiety so that we're not, you know, like 6pm We're like, we're the carbs and you want to like eat the wallpaper off the wall because you just need something to crunch. So we didn't give necessarily specific recommendations for macros and micros in this book, because it is such an individual thing. I highly recommend, as Andy said that you get your blood work done, because you also have to look at micronutrients. You know, if your iron is super, super Low and you're anemic. My gosh, I gotta start with you there, I gotta get, you know, rich sources of iron for you and then maybe recommend like a cast iron skillet because your food is gonna absorb some of that as well. So that to Andy's point, that could be a whole other book as well.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, no, it just seems like there's so many diets out there. I mean, like, I got this with the whole 30. That's one and then there's like, vegan. And then there's keto. And it's just confusing. And I've had some of the experts on my show, and they'll, you know, preach their diet, but I feel like everyone needs to pick one that's right for them. That's, that's what I've understood.

Nicole Stuart:

I think I agree.

Desi Bartlett:

100% Yeah,

Andrea Orbeck:

I think the takeaway with regarding nutrition, none of us being nutritionists, but you know, we do work with celebrities that play them on TV. So if we, if we want to make sure that we're, you know, we're talking about nutrition, and different diets, which means just different philosophies about what works regarding absorption, and you know, your metabolic setpoint and supporting someone who's athletic, that's just a template that cannot be you know, it's so individual. As the book mentions, it's kind of a matter of experimenting, as well, you have to be someone who your own template to see after 10 days, two weeks, in a month, how does this certain nutritional profile, assist me in the things I'm looking for, with regards to energy and, you know, muscle mass, and, you know, all those things, and so those need to be looked at. And so it's a matter of experimenting, and that just, you know, it goes to the responsibility, the reader as well to take the information and then try and learn as much as they can, with the advice about how it applies to them.

Chuck Shute:

Right. And I think most people know, kind of what to eat, like, my doctor told me, he's like, you know, what to do to eat healthy, you know, like, you know, he's like, red meat, you know, it's like the same things, eat whole grains, vegetables, fruits, like don't eat too much sugar, it's, you know, it's a lot of things. But so that's what kind of like the the chapters, this is a part I really liked about the book is the mental stuff, because I think a lot of people know, you know, what's good food and bad food and exercise versus not exercising. So how do you shift that? So yeah, talk about that, like, how do you do the make that shift in your head, because I found that part of the book, the most fascinating,

Nicole Stuart:

I would say, it's practice, it's showing up, it's forcing yourself to do the things you don't want to do, when you know, they're the right things to do. Like, and the voices in your head. I mean, I, I wrote a lot of the mental stuff, just correlating it to my own mental challenges that I had personally. So I mean, you know, what works for me might not work for everybody, but maybe it'll work for one other person. But, you know, that came from years of therapy. And also, you know, just learning that lesson of doing the things you don't want to do to make you feel better, because you're like, you're never gonna want to get out of bed in the morning. Like, I have a friend who, you know, was like, for me, like, I just like, I gotta get out of the bed. Because I've like, learned that it's ingrained in me, you know, waking up at whatever time it was for my 6am client, and then being there for them to support them. That's what I was getting paid for. So through the years of doing this job, I've learned how, what is good and what is bad. And I've been able to train myself, but circling back to my friend, who's like, for me, I love the bed, you know, and I didn't tell her this, but I thought about it the other day, and I was like, the bed is her enemy. The bed the thing that wants to keep her like, stay in bed, stay cozy, stay the same. Don't go for your walk. It's like that, that that natural thing. I think as people we don't I mean, it's very, I mean, it could be, I don't know, athletes to I find that it's for everybody. Like we don't always want to do the right things, you know. So I think you have to show up for yourself every day and make it a practice make it a habit. like brushing your teeth, washing your hair, the food the like, in take baby steps doing it?

Chuck Shute:

Well, yeah. And then the stuff about like rewiring your brain. I thought that was really interesting. Like there's research that shows that, you know, that you can actually the brain can continue to grow. And so if you make that rewiring, is the first step is to believe that that actually can happen. And then it's just like changing the habits. Right? That's a big piece of it is actually forcing because and then the benefits of diet and exercise again are I'm sure most people know that but it's just forcing yourself to to get out of your comfort zone. I think it was another thing you mentioned, which I don't know if you guys are you guys familiar with David Goggins at all like, I love that guy. He's a little crazy. Yeah, but he, but he talks about how comfort zones are poison. So that's what it sounds like with your friend with the bed. Like, that's our comfort zone. It's like, if you're in your comfort zone too long, it's really bad for you.

Nicole Stuart:

Yeah, for sure, no, and all the things that you, you know, that you know, you shouldn't be doing. And yet you do them. Those are all, I guess, like you were saying the poison, but they're the things that want to keep you stuck and safe and the same. So you have to break through those things. And I know, it's all easier said than actually done. But it can happen. And it does happen. And it might not happen the first day or the first week. But, you know, five years later, 10 years later, you know, and I mean, I just know this for myself, because of my own background, you know, suffering from depression, and also having mental illness in my family and just, you know, fighting against all of those odds to show up for yourself, it's really important to do that. And you're not going to want to it'll be the hardest thing you do for yourself, but it'll be the most rewarding thing. And you just keep growing, you just keep growing.

Chuck Shute:

Well, yeah. And I think there's a lot of women that have kind of, I mean, well, probably men too, but a lot of people just have insecurities about their bodies. And so doesn't that kind of hinder them from working out a lot of times? Like they don't want to be seen working out in the gym. I think that's why they invented the curves gym. Right?

Nicole Stuart:

I don't know about that. But we do do a lot of house calls. I haven't been, by the way at the gym since COVID. I mean, but that's not because people I did have a few clients who don't want to see themselves in the mirrors. So they would come to my house to work out. And you know, they are working through those issues. But I did have some of those. So yes, that is true. But also, I mean, I think mostly it's convenience. And then also like, if they're celebrities, they don't always like going to the gym, you know, but Right.

Chuck Shute:

Well, yeah, because I know that this part, I think this is important for people to know, I like that you put this in the book about how like when you trained Anna Faris for The House Bunny, like that she in a lot of these roles, that people that they celebrities take these diets that they're on a restricted calorie diets that shouldn't be followed in the long term. Because I think people see them they go, okay, that's how I should be all the time. And if I'm not like that I'm a failure. And it's like, even the celebrities that are doing these diets, like this is like a short term thing for this one role.

Nicole Stuart:

Correct? For sure. I mean, she was incredible. But she was on like, and I don't know, this was a long time ago. But I want to say it was like 1000 calories a day, but she was gonna be in a bathing suit, the whole movie. So it, she knew that I knew that. And we took it day by day, but she had to do the thing that she, you know, was not easy to do that it's not easy to end the workout, she was working out two or three times a day. But she really was determined and open minded. And, you know, she had a huge transformation with her body. And, and, you know, like, I think all of us can agree that, you know, we can only take people to the well, we can't make them drink the water unless they have that mental capacity to be that focused and determined and to show up. And Anna was that, you know, she was ready. She was like, and it really paid off in spades.

Chuck Shute:

Right. But if they do it too long, it's your you're saying that it actually can cause damage, like to your to your metabolism long, long term.

Nicole Stuart:

Yeah. I mean, I think she was even quoted saying, like, I can't live like this for the rest of my life this was for, and I'm probably not quoting it properly. So I'll just say that now. But she, yeah, it wasn't a lifetime of 1000 calories a day it was for that period. And then she slowly started, you know, to go back to her normal, whatever cheats or whatever it was, but you know, she had that binder. Now, you know that doing that work? You know, so she knows what that's like, and she can go back to that, you know, for one of their movies. She's gonna be in a bikini.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. And one of the things also you say in the book that a good tip is that and it sounds silly, but you say saying things out loud is actually helpful because then you'll actually hear the message because I feel like that's one of the biggest things with with getting people to work out. It's just motivation. So that's one thing that could help is just saying it out loud. and talking to yourself, maybe telling yourself or working.

Desi Bartlett:

So going back to your point about Goggins, I love Goggins, by the way, which is sort of ironic, because I'm the yoga teacher in the group. But when he's working out, and he's, you know, doing his benchpress, and you say, You don't know me, Son, you don't know me, son, I do that. I totally do that. Because I want to have that outside motivational voice. I know what I do. For other people, I know what these beautiful women do for other people, I want to do that for myself. And I want to show up for myself too. And then just going back to what y'all were just talking about with, you know, restrictive dieting, and all that stuff. And so much of the entertainment world, and also the fitness world, I think, is cyclical. And there are times when you have to just show up with a certain body type or a certain amount of energy, or there's times when you get to restore and relax and nourish again. So if we can just remember that things are cyclical. And when when Where did that go time that, you know, nobody said mantra, or you can do it, or you've got this, that can totally help.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, well, and then also you talk about in the book, I think this is an important part too, about the, you know, establishing healthy boundaries, because there's so many distractions, that's another thing that that holds people back from working out, and you use the term energy vampires, and so explain what that is. Because I think that's really informative, too.

Desi Bartlett:

So one of the things with energy vampires is, you know, when they call you, because you don't want to answer the phone, you know, it's going to be a half an hour time suck, you know that it's going to be you listening the whole time, they're probably not even going to ask how you are. And they're going to ask for favors that kind of thing. And I feel like for women, especially as we start to mature and come into our own, we have the ability to say no, but in a loving way. You know, it doesn't have to be like no or hide from the phone. It can be like, hey, yeah, I love you. I have two minutes to chat. And then I really got to run. So you can still recognize people and without, you know, putting them off and still honoring yourself. You need that time for yourself. You got to take care of yourself so that you fill up your own cup so that you show up strong for yourself. If you're married for your spouse, for your family, for your clients, for your friends. I don't have that to give to the lady that wants to chat with me on the phone for a half an hour.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, well, I'm I think the Advent vention of texting. Like I feel like that's saved so many things. I love texting. I love it way more than talking on the phone.

Andrea Orbeck:

Yeah, me too.

Desi Bartlett:

Yeah, so much easier.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. You got the energy vampires. But then the on the other side, you'd have choosing your tribe, you talk about that. I love that too. Like choosing your what does it choose your tribe and love them hard? That's a catchy quote. You know, and just like surrounding yourself with like minded people that can probably help for like exercise regimens too, right?

Andrea Orbeck:

Oh, absolutely. Research, research is undeniable about, you know, you know, who you surround yourself is probably the statistically highest outcome of what you're going to be like, it's a mirror and a reflection, but then ingrained in that is also the accountability and the support. So I feel like, you know, if we use the three of us as this little microcosm, three of us did that for each other, as we wrote the book for it to then cyclically spin out and help women, you know, who read it, I just, it is so important to build a community, and to be able to have agreements and collaborations. And I feel like that is exactly what we did, we started the foundation by doing that, and then encouraging women at all ages, but especially at an age where you really need to take inventory with where you make your agreements. Because you know, how you decide to navigate yourself is going to have a direct outcome of how you feel physically, and mentally and emotionally. And that's what I love is all the chapters of the book that, you know, my co authors wrote is just it's so much resource and so much validation and inspiration, sometimes to say no, and that it's not best for me. But why is that not just because I have boundaries, just because I need physical support that's gonna make me become the things that I aspire to that others are not permitting me to have. And I just feel like I was very inspired, even on a personal level by the girls chapters, because it made me feel like I have to keep going in these areas that I'm making agreements with, and I learned to kind of really look at my boundaries. Did you guys do that, too, during the writing of the book, like to even understand, like, the boundaries and just the things that you said yes to that weren't benefiting. I personally found that very, very instrumental for me. Absolutely. Yeah.

Desi Bartlett:

Yeah, for sure. And I heard a quote recently, allow me to paraphrase. It's something to the extent of, we are the sum total of the five people that we spend the most time with. So I want to be really picky about who that is because I want to rise I want to grow, I want to make sure that the way that I show up is empowered and empowering to others. So to be around women like these who have strong healthy boundaries, but are also so committed to what they do that that inspires me.

Chuck Shute:

Now, that makes sense. If you're hanging out with four really fit millionaires, you're probably going to be the fifth one.

Andrea Orbeck:

Right? Yeah, yeah. And if you're not going to be the millionaire, you're going to be the fifth one. Or at least you know, if you're going to move, you know, if you're not going to be so fit, you're going to be rich. Yeah, I mean, those are great. Those are great templates to influence

Chuck Shute:

you and you'll, you'll influence each other. Yeah. Explain this does the expense thing what is it called a key I key I probably said that wrong. But it's a thing where you like, you yell like, this Tigers roar. Like get these emotions out? What is this? Yes.

Desi Bartlett:

It's called a Kia. And it's just like, what it sounds like. So in martial arts, you know, when they go Kia. Yeah, like personally, in the old movies. It's called. And so my younger son is really, really deep into judo. And before that Taekwondo and I would go to all these classes, and I'm like, that is what we need to channel. And so that's a lot of what I taught to my, my pregnant clients, you know, when you're ready to push, you, you dig deep, and you find that tiger inside and you you use the power, like, people are going to tell you, you know, have your have your flameless candles in your room at therapy, that's fab, but you got to have some power in you. And that also translates into menopause and all these different cycles of life, we need to tap into our inner power, so that we can harness that and then choose where we direct it.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, and so and then be on the other side of that with the, with the, you know, getting the emotions out the meditation. You mentioned that if you do you have a method of meditation that you guys prefer, or like, like transcendental meditation, or just any meditation.

Nicole Stuart:

I mean, I think it's really specific for the individual. You know, I am a Buddhist. So I chant, you know, I do know me homering Aikido, but what I do might not work for somebody else. I don't know, I was very drawn to that. It works for me. But you know, I think any type of meditation is fantastic. Even if it's five minutes, the breathing, you know, and just silence that, you know, that's three minutes. Yeah, okay.

Desi Bartlett:

We'd get the fight out of the body so that we can sit still. So if we can go for a run or lift weights or chiar, you know, find that power, then we have the ability to sit still and to quiet the mind. And for me, I like to use visualization and mantra, but I grew up with Nanyo hug her and Caicos. I love that, Nicole. And I think our country in general, we're kind of a little bit traumatized. From the last couple of years, we've been in this fight or flight state on and off for two years. So for anyone who's drawn to meditation, like I highly encourage you, whatever feels right. If it's, you know, my YouTube channel, or the calm app, or even something on Instagram or closing your eyes to Nicole's point and just finding two minutes of quiet. It's so nourishing.

Chuck Shute:

I agree. That's, that's well said. I think I wish they could teach meditation in schools. I feel like it would really benefit kids. And actually, I know their schools are all about test scores. I feel like it would make test scores better to agree. Yeah, absolutely.

Nicole Stuart:

Actually, you know, Goldie Hawn has a whole program for that. Well, she's dedicated her life to I mean, for the last I don't know how many years she's been doing it forever to get it in school. It's called Mind Up. And it's all about teaching the children about meditation and and quieting their thoughts and in learning what those thoughts are, I don't know all of it, but I do know, you know, I know about it. So it's it's an it's getting into more and more schools. So you're right. About the quieting the brain, you know, for the children. So yeah, that will happen at some point.

Chuck Shute:

Well, that's amazing. Nicole, I thought I knew everything about you. But like I didn't know this that the first time you did Pilates you cried. Explain that. What I don't understand, like what happened was just really an emotion. It wasn't like because it was painful or something right? It was.

Nicole Stuart:

Yeah, no, it wasn't painful. I was doing the hundreds with Mari because, you know that whole story. But when we were doing it, and I just learned it was so hard for me, obviously, but I just had this huge emotional release. And it was like all these emotions in my stomach because I think honestly, you know, I had just moved to Los Angeles and whatever stress I was under I don't think I really I breathe. I took breaths that deep. So I think when I did do the 100, it was just such a release of everything, not only my breath, but everything that I had been holding so tightly in my center. So yeah, I cried, but I was not. I didn't get it.

Andrea Orbeck:

Lovely, no, cool.

Chuck Shute:

That's really cool. So we got you, you have all the exercises in the book. That's why people need to buy the book, the yoga, the Pilates, and then the weight training. Talk about that. Why? Because I think a lot of women don't lift weights, they just do cardio. But it's so

Andrea Orbeck:

it's so important. And so if we looked at it from the reasons why we want to do it from like, the physiological and not the aesthetic, I mean, that it's numerous, I'll let the mystery be when you turn the pages of the book to find out all the information, but just to kind of brief it, you know, bone density would be the one flag that I would fly in that, you know, osteopenia and osteoporosis. And as our hormones start to change, later, in years, we start to get, you know, bone density loss, and that ends up in a break, and that ends up in a hip fracture, and that ends up in you know, surgery that is unnecessary. And then also metabolic would be another reason why I would really promote it is simply because the more muscle mass you have a think of it as akin to like a log in a fire, if you have a huge log, there's gonna be a lot of heat. And if we, you know, agree that metabolism is heat and the mood, you know, the expenditure of heat, you're gonna have a higher metabolism, you're actually going to be leaner. So I think that when women understand that they're not going to be massive bodybuilders, which is just such a fallacy, even after all these decades of research, that we're still fighting women saying to us, I don't want to be huge, and it's like, sweetie, you are never going to be huge, you don't even possess the, the, you know, the testosterone profile, you wouldn't be huge. If it was, you know, that is just not what's gonna happen. And so I just think that when women start to empower themselves with being like, physically strong to be able to perform their daily lives, and then they're aesthetically strong to be able to actually have tone, and be able to have shaping their lives, which makes it you know, like, who's getting who it looks great, and apparel, white jeans, not only when you bend down and you know, bend over and kiss your grandkids, whatever, it's just beneficial. And it's just, it's a constant fight. I think the three of us have gone through in the industry, especially competing with like, the really wavy, wavy aesthetic, even those girls really do lift, they just don't lift as much, you know, it contributes. And so it's a great question, because I always love a platform to promote it. I'm sure you guys agree. Yeah.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, no, that's, that's, I love that you included all that. I think that that's another thing you talked about in the book is having a variety because otherwise, if you just do the same thing, it gets stale, right? Like you talk about, like, if you just walked every day, you know, maybe that's a good place to start. But eventually, you need to start, you know, adding all incorporating all the different types of strength training, cardio, yoga, stretching all that stuff, right?

Andrea Orbeck:

Yes, adaptation is real, you know, adaptation is very real, and your body is used to, you know, making sure that it overcomes the imposed demands, and if you demand that you walk 15 minutes a day, very quickly, your body is going to be able to handle it. And then those gains are whatever aspirations you have are going to plateau and ceiling. And so you need the variety, but then also to with respect to you know, diversion and different things. If you're really, really, you know, if you train only all the time to lift, you are missing components of a very well holistic base life, if you don't have the strength that Pilates would bring specific to that, or you know, the range of motion, that yoga, you are deceiving yourself without combining the variety of those things, which is why we all jumped at doing the book because really, it's the first time you can find this in the chapters to aggregate all those wonderful things with all the wonderful, you know, outcomes.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, do you think to like if people are struggling to even you know, because this book is, this is what the celebrity trainer, celebrities are doing the the these are, some of these workouts are kind of advanced, but if a person like just doesn't like exercising, where do you think they should start? Because I heard a really good quote from somebody that they told me a story about how they were counselor and they had this client who did not want to exercise. They said, I hate exercise, and he said, You've always hated exercise. Yeah, always well, even when you're a kid, well, I like to rollerblade when I was a kid, so And she's like, Okay, well, I guess I'll try that. So then she started rollerblading should that's her exercise. So do you think that's maybe a good place to start is finding something that you like, like I know, for me, I like to swim. So I swim every day.

Desi Bartlett:

That's great. 100% Yeah, so the quote that I heard that I love that It pertains to this is, the best type of exercise is the exercise that you will do. So that's where we want to start for sure. And then we can start to branch out into the different components. Its muscular strength, muscular endurance, flexibility, cardiovascular endurance, and body composition, nutrition. So we'll get you all those eventually. But yeah, let's start with what you're actually going to show up and do.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, I love this quote, too. In the book, you say that when you schedule, you should schedule the workouts like a to do list and that time should be set up like a doctor's appointment, like you should not that I'm like, Oh, that's so perfect. That's a great analogy.

Desi Bartlett:

Yeah, so that goes into part of exercise physiology and the study of exercise science, there's a there's an aspect called adherence. And exercise adherence simply refers to showing up. And as soon as you have an appointment with someone, your odds of showing up increased by about 50%. If you're showing up for someone else, like a fitness professional, like one of us, you're probably going to be there, you know, you're spending the money and you've made the commitment to us and to flake on us feels like a little yucky. But to flake on yourself is a lot easier. So if we can simply put the appointment in there and honor that time for ourselves, that also helps us with those strong and healthy boundaries.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, the other thing that you have in the book that I love is you have all these insider tips scattered throughout the book, I don't want to spoil it all. But I do want to bring up this one that I liked. It's a good tip that if you know, if you want to work out in the mornings, and start your day worked out, then then you sleep and your workout clothes. I lie. I've heard that before. And I think that's a great idea. Because then you wake up and you're already it's like, you're already in like workout mode, you've already got your workout clothes on. Maybe not the shoes

Desi Bartlett:

that's an easy one. Or you can just put it next to the bed so that you're set up for success, the more you can choose yourself and make those choices easy, the easier it is to show up. And so Chuck, I've been watching your show a little bit more. And I've been like, you know, watching all these amazing musicians. And they show up year after year after year, and the persistence is there. And the passion is there. And so I think what we're all sort of in love with is, is having people fall in love with that for movement also.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, I know, like I said, I think if you if you don't like working out, start with something you like. And then I think once you kind of go down that path, then it's like, to me, like always try to treat everything like a game, right? Like even with podcasts, and I treat it like a game. I'm like, okay, like, what clients, you know, what guests? Can I get? Like, how many listens? Can I get? I treat it like a game and it make it fun? And I feel like I do the same thing with with exercise in my diet, I'll be like, okay, like, what can I get my body fat percentage, what can I get my weight, and it's like, and I treat it like a game and you want to win, right? Everybody wants to win, nobody wants to lose the game. So I think that's a good way to treat it.

Andrea Orbeck:

incentive is huge. And if you own your incentive, and you think about a short term incentive, or a long term incentive, all those things are really strong tools that will help you stay closer to really what you want to do, because it requires you to organize it the same as you know, fiscal management and your bank account. If you are aware of what gets you to what you want to do, and then you maintain it along the way, you have an investment. And so those are kind of strategies. And when you set up a strategy like that as even akin to a game, you have a way higher success at being, you know, closer to the motivation and closer to the outcome of what you've invested in. It really is a scientific formula, you know, and then self love just it's a scoop of self love when you do it that way.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. And if people want it and I think you even have that in these workouts, when people get the book they can see there's kind of like basic workouts and then it gets more advanced and you have these specific you know workout names who came up with the names because some of them are so final I was like no ifs, ands, or weak buts curls. This one was my favorite though is waste removal. But it was like waste was spelled w ay ay S T. I thought that was really clever. Maybe it's cliche, but I'd never saw it.

Andrea Orbeck:

I just think if it's cheeky, and you can have a sense of humor about it. Because we don't always need to be so serious in clinical we didn't, you know, we don't need to show up in lab coats. At the end of the day. When I get to a client's house, I may know what I'm talking about. But if I'm not on a unicycle juggling hoops of fire, trying to be entertaining day after day, year after year, you know, there has to have a little bit of fun and I just think that we also wanted to offset the data and the information, you know, which can sometimes, you know, be a little hard to digest just with a little bit of fun because at the end of the day, yes, I do want Wanna delay the onset of osteoporosis? But, I mean, shamefully, I still want a great ass for my husband. And I mean that. I don't need to apologize for that. We're able to like, share with women the incentive of showing up for that reason. Girls show up, you know, show up in that and it's, you know, it can just be fun and shameless.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. Speaking of fun, like, Nicole, tell my audience about the the wine workout that you did with Kate huts. I think that was pretty fun. Yeah, I

Nicole Stuart:

think we were both I mean, we were traveling together. And it was just, you know, we had no weights and we were trying to squeeze in a quick workout for before we were going somewhere. We were in Greece, I get I think, yeah, Greece. And it was summertime. And there were two bottles of Rose A's sitting there. So it was like, Here you go. There you go. And we just are cracking up. But you know, we did our own workout with the Rosae bottles.

Andrea Orbeck:

So amazing. Yeah. Get lighter over time. And not heavier. But that's it's a whole different looking philosophy. Yeah, the lifting philosophy, you know? Yeah. It's called drop sets. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Sandra hydrated.

Chuck Shute:

Is there. Because there's there's pictures in the book, too. People should know. Like I said, there's the workouts and it tells you it shows you all the poses and everything. It's very well illustrated now. But is there a video supplement? or can people I mean, obviously, they can follow you on social media and you guys post up there or YouTube channel.

Andrea Orbeck:

And yeah, we got

Nicole Stuart:

workouts though, pre this book, like Desi mentioned earlier, and I have these old workout videos, also when DVDs were a thing. But now they're all on Vimeo. Vimeo on demand. So I'm there and there's like, quick, you know, workouts, a lot of the exercises are the ones that are in the book, because Pilates is a set series of exercises. And then some I made a little bit different just because out of, you know, boredom. And I like being creative. And then I know Andrea has DVDs too. So, but not not this exact set yet. But that's to come. Yeah. Okay.

Chuck Shute:

So what do you this is not in the book, I was just going to pick your brain on this topic, because it seems related, obviously, to fitness and weight loss and health and diet and all that stuff. It seems like there's just like two extremes in our world right now. Like, there's, you've got the fat shaming, like they'll, they'll put those, you know, those media or whatever, will post a picture of someone in a bikini and say, Oh, look out, they've gained weight or whatever. But then you've also got like this body positivity thing where obesity is okay. And it's people should just be obese. And that's their beautiful the way they are, and then they shouldn't exercise and workout. How do you what are your thoughts on those two extremes? Because I don't really like either one of them. But I mean, you don't I'm saying?

Nicole Stuart:

Yeah, for sure. No, you're absolutely right. It's like, because I think like, there was a period of time where women had to be skinny, skinny, skinny. And I think now being a little more full is more acceptable. But it's like, like, you know, I think everybody should just focus on themselves and be happy with where they're at in their own weight. And, you know, I mean, everyone's different, as long as, you know, if somebody is heavier, as long as they're, you know, they don't have diabetes or heart failure, you know, what I mean? Like, if it's not going to screw up their health, then and they feel comfortable, then that's their, that's their choice, you know, but I don't ever think anyone should get shamed on either end of the spectrum. I just don't think that that's cool, you know, because, you know, especially as women we fluctuate so much our entire lives with our weight. I mean, I know I have from high school till even now, you know, it's just, you know, we expand and contract and our body is amazing, and I think that it should be celebrated.

Chuck Shute:

Absolutely. Well said,

Andrea Orbeck:

yeah. Sorry about

Nicole Stuart:

the men to for men to you know, be however, you know, like, if, I don't know, go ahead, Andrew, you were gonna say something?

Andrea Orbeck:

No, just lately. You know, we were asked to comment on something that was going on in the headlines recently regarding a celebrity who had to kind of embracing her weight and so they wanted us to talk about body positivity and body neutrality, and the difference between that one being that body positive tivity is just saying, if I am, you know, overweight, that is beautiful, whereas body neutrality says I'm ambivalent to my shape and my form, but I celebrate that my body achieved so much it respirate it's given birth to a baby where it's not as aesthetic in the superficial realm, polar to the positivity, where we're supposed to just say, the way it is, is beautiful. And you know, those are very good. Those are very good proponents to look at oneself. However, I think the measurements doesn't, isn't, you know, so aesthetic and that it's functional? What what is your what is your heartrate? Level? What is your blood pressure level? Are you on the is, you know, I know, sometimes people don't like the basal metabolic rate that you know, and the BMI measurements. So if one were to be categorized is, you know, morbidly obese, what does that mean in regards to your quality of life and your mortality. And I think that we need to start really like widening the aperture as to what we think is healthy, versus what we think is appearance, because they're not the same things. And we know that and I think that that needs to be discussed more and more and more and more without glossy ads, and all those things, telling us how skinny Someone has come back from having a baby or how thin someone is, or how, you know, Rebel Wilson, as an example, has lost so much weight, I mean, really, what what are her, what are her vitals, but no one talks about that, because it's not, you know, clickbait. And I just think that it's frustrating. And so we have started to try and encourage women to look at themselves holistically, we do ask, you know, aesthetically, want to be a certain, you know, pleasing, but if you, let's say are a size two, and you're six feet tall, but you have diabetes, you have other things to really consider that are gonna end your life prematurely if you don't learn about them. And I just I feel like we succeeded in encouraging people to look at themselves that way.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah, just seems like there's a lot of judgment all over. I mean, people got mad at Adele for losing weight, or, like you said, Rebel Wilson and Lena Dunham, I think had lost some weight. And people like this, like she sold out because she lost weight. It just it's a strange concept to me. Like, I think that's great if people want to get healthy. But on the other end of the spectrum, I don't think people should shame them. If people are overweight, and they might be struggling with something we don't know. They might have hormone issues, they might have something going on in their life. Like, it's just weird to see the shaming, I don't get that.

Andrea Orbeck:

Yeah, and it's a double edged sword, especially those of us working in the industry. You know, like, there was something said of me one time, like, she probably holds the secrets to Victoria's Secret. And, you know, there's some things that I at this point in time would look back on and say, you know, people made an agreement for a job that was required. And I wouldn't encourage people to do it as a lifestyle, as you mentioned earlier, Chuck with the you know, that you can't last long doing certain things. And so when people then make decisions to become healthy, and their consequence is a certain appearance, it's like we're telling them that they haven't had this body positivity that we want them to have. But we really have no idea what people's aspirations are, and what that looks like, internally, you know, that's between someone and their doctor, and between them in the mirror, where we're inserting ourselves in that is absolutely bonkers.

Chuck Shute:

Well said, No, I love that. Yeah. I like that. You're right. It's like treat it like a medical thing. Because I mean, I go to my doctor once a year, and he makes recommendations. And I just try to follow that and do what he says. And I think that's what we should all do. But definitely this people should I get this book, because I think there's a lot of great information in there a lot of good workouts that people can use. And I think it could change a lot of people's lives. I think it's a great book to put out there in the world. I love it.

Andrea Orbeck:

Thank you

Nicole Stuart:

so much. All right, if we can help one person, I think we've done our job. Yeah, great.

Chuck Shute:

And like I said that I mean, such credibility with these actresses that you know, and a list celebrities that you guys have worked with. Is there anything else that you want to promote besides this book? Any other projects?

Nicole Stuart:

Silence really close to being a film festival, and in New York again. We're another one. Yeah. It's like the little film that could it keeps on trucking because you know, because it COVID At a lot of the festivals, like put it on pause. So now people are getting more out. So it was two years later, and it's just now getting going. I think it's funny, but it's so exciting. It's been fun, but it's in a festival in September called new new faces. Now I'm forgetting the full name and they're gonna kill me Oh,

Chuck Shute:

how do I watch the movie, by the way? Because I tried to find it today and I couldn't find it. You know,

Nicole Stuart:

it's not online. Yeah. Okay. We're like after the festival circuit. Okay, hopefully we can get it, you know, sold or up, up somewhere streaming. So, you know, I don't know when that's gonna be though, unfortunately. So

Chuck Shute:

well, people can pre order pre order the book right now. Right? And then they can, of course, go on social media. And there is a Instagram profile for the book that I follow as well. So if they want updates on the book, or they can follow that, right,

Andrea Orbeck:

yes, total body beauty.

Nicole Stuart:

And the website, WWE, Debbie? Total Body beautiful.com. To all the places that are selling the book, which is Amazon, Target, and Barnes and Noble. So

Chuck Shute:

when is it coming out? I forgot. Because I was like, well, it's all for me now. So I didn't I forgot that. But I probably need to let the audience know what they can read it.

Nicole Stuart:

What was the date on it?

Desi Bartlett:

I think the the release date is October 3. And that's when I started sending it out from Amazon. And I think the reason that you heard crickets for a moment when you said what else is coming up is because we're so focused on this book, and we're so excited. We have a book release party in Los Angeles, the first week of October, we're getting together in about two weeks time, so we can take photos with the book. And it's just like a combination of over a year and a half of work that we get to celebrate

Chuck Shute:

that is very cool. Is the party open to the public or is like a private event.

Nicole Stuart:

Well, unfortunately, the first this this event, we're only allowed it's actually I'm excited. It's gonna be at Book soup, which for me is like super cool, because you know, I book soup has been there for years. And it's just so iconic. To me. It's one of like, you know, Los Angeles's oldest bookstores and they are going to have our I guess, release party. And but we're only allowed 40 people. So unfortunately, but we will have more that hopefully, we can get one at Barnes and Noble and, and be able to invite lots more people. And hopefully it will be sort of showing up at bookstores in different places, I hope.

Chuck Shute:

Yeah. Would you do a tour where you like a book signing tour, and get it was that hard to get all three of you with your schedules?

Andrea Orbeck:

I know that we're showing up to the one at the winery where we're using the bottles as props, but I think that's as far as we've gotten for that one that we're all showing up. But yeah, well, you have to refer to the calendar after that. Right.

Desi Bartlett:

Okay, yeah, we're talking about going to major cities. But I think what you'll see a lot of and one of the Silver Linings for our from the last few years has been that we are able to communicate effectively, digitally. So you will see digital released parties, you will see us giving away, like Instagram Live, who wants to win a copy of the book, that kind of thing. We want to make sure that we reach women all over the world. And not just the United States. When we did an Instagram live together. We had people from China and England in Mexico as the you know, like countries everywhere. So if we can share with the world like that's our honor.

Chuck Shute:

That's a knee I love it. global, global vision. I always end each episode promoting a charity. I think last time when Nicole was on we promoted the ALS Foundation. Do you want to promote that? Or is there any other charities you want to give a shout out to?

Desi Bartlett:

So there's one yes, there's one in Los Angeles. It's called the PS I love you Foundation. And to your point earlier, Chuck about offering meditation and schools, they offer yoga and meditation to at risk youth in South Central Los Angeles. I've taught for them before they also sponsor a day at the beach. So they take children who perhaps have never had the opportunity to see the ocean that they live 10 miles away from to go and play at the beach with other responsible adults acting as counselors leading games. The woman who runs that Patricia Jones, she's near and dear to my heart. She's been doing that for over 25 years. So I highly encourage you all to check that out.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, great. So after people order the book, if they have a few extra bucks lying around, they can throw it that way then I'll put that site in the show notes and also the website to order the book. I think that's on your website. Right. The links to order the book preorder.

Nicole Stuart:

Yeah, absolutely. All right. All the links are set up there.

Chuck Shute:

Okay, perfect. Well, thank you so much for doing this ladies. I'll get this episode out soon.

Andrea Orbeck:

Thank you. Nice talking to you.

Chuck Shute:

All right. Thank you so much. So much. Bye bye. Okay, Hey, thank you again to Nicole Stewart, Andrea or Beck and Desi Bartlett. The book is called total body beautiful. It's available for preorder now or it may be readily available depending on when you're listening to this episode. Check out the website in the show notes. It's there along with the charity website that we mentioned in my website. Thank you all for listening. Have a great day. And remember, shoot for the moon.