Jaret Reddick (Bowling for Soup)

Jaret Reddick is a musician, voice actor and podcaster. He’s known for being the frontman for Bowling for Soup as well as the voice of Chuck E. Cheese. He has a new album out with Bowling for Soup as well as a new solo country album.  In this episode we discuss the new music, the early days of Bowling for Soup, music videos, censorship, dealing with fans and more! 

00:00 - Intro
00:47 - Podcasts, Producing & Staying Busy 
04:06 - Touring in Texas 
05:22 - Sports Fan & Sports Betting 
07:20 - New Country Album "Just Woke Up" 
08:48 - Garth Brooks, Dave Grohl & Sebastian Bach 
13:21 - Comments, Trolls & Fans 
15:43 - Reaction to New Album & Critics 
19:43 - Chilling Out, Old School Country & Simplicity 
22:15 - Bowling for Soup Origin Story 
26:40 - Discovering New Music & Opening Bands 
32:25 - Vans Warped Tour 
35:10 - Music Videos & High Anxiety
37:55 - I Wanna Be Brad Pitt 
40:15 - Alexa Bliss 
43:15 - High School Never Ends 
45:15 - 1985 Song & TikTok 
47:13 - Censorship 
50:30 - Worst Dressed & The Grammies 
53:05 - Dealing with Fans
55:03 - Darius Rucker & Crossing Over 
56:36 - Foundation 45 
57:45 - Outro 

Jaret Reddick website:
https://jaretreddick.com/music/

Foundation 45 website:
https://foundation45.org

Chuck Shute website:
http://chuckshute.com

Transcript

Chuck Shute: 0:00

Hey don't go anywhere because we got Jared Rata coming up from Bowling for Soup. He's got a new solo album out it's called just woke up to country album, but it's really good. If you'd like country you're gonna love it. There's also a new Bowling for Soup album out pop drunks not bread as a really cool Garbage Pail Kids album cover. So if you get that reference, it's really cool. We're gonna cover a lot of ground in this interview, we're talking new music, old music music videos, touring and live shows sports the old days censorship fans, trolls and more stay right there you do podcasts to is this where you do your podcast from?

Jaret Reddick: 0:50

Yeah, so I've got several podcasts. And then of course, it's just like, I mean, I've been doing press from here for two and a half years now, you know, since the since the whole since the world shutdown. So I guess not two and a half, but a little over two years. And so I just do my podcast setup. And yeah, here I am.

Chuck Shute: 1:10

Yeah, that makes it nice. Because then it will be a nice clean audio. Sometimes people are in echoey rooms. And it makes for an interesting interview.

Jaret Reddick: 1:19

Yeah, I mean, you know, people are sort of getting getting it down, though. Right. I mean, yeah. You know, with the, with air pods have been a, you know, a Savior as far as like, just shitty audio is concerned.

Chuck Shute: 1:33

Yeah, it's just amazing how many people to me that they work in the music business, and or sometimes they're engineers or producers, and they can't figure out zoom very well. Like it's like, audio quality. I'm like, you're a producer. You produce bands, because zoom cause terrible. Yeah,

Jaret Reddick: 1:50

it is funny how that works. Yeah, you don't

Chuck Shute: 1:53

do a lot of dude, you don't produce your own stuff. Do you?

Jaret Reddick: 1:57

Yeah, I mean, so what in what way? Do you mean music?

Chuck Shute: 2:01

Yeah, like you. You don't produce like the albums and stuff? Or do I do?

Jaret Reddick: 2:04

Yeah, so I've CO produced everything we've ever done or produced, or produced it. And then I do other I was doing other bands and stuff after the whole. After quarantine happened, I just sort of like downsized a few things, because it really put a bunch into perspective for me. So I kind of stopped producing other bands, I stopped writing with other bands, I stopped managing bands, stuff that really was just the labor of love stuff to where it was just really to keep myself busy, because I don't have any hobbies other than work. And so yeah, but but I still do co produce with, with my buddy Linus, all of the Bowling for Soup stuff and pretty much anything I'm doing musically. Wow,

Chuck Shute: 2:53

yeah, you're such a busy guy. So you're just like being busy, like all that?

Jaret Reddick: 2:58

I do. Yeah. I mean, again, I you know, I don't really do anything else. I mean, you know, my job is to create cool stuff and make people smile. And that's what I like doing. So, you know, I fill my time with that kind of stuff. And then I spend time with my family and my friends you know, that aren't in this world. You know, I've got my two separate worlds. And you know, but that's it. But yeah, I mean, I you know, it's funny. I get told how busy I am all the time but other people and and really up until this year, it's just instance 2007 Really? I'm just like yeah, but you know, I mean, I just I just like to fill up the day but I am a lid I'm actually to that point of like, okay, I have way too much going on and probably need to reevaluate a few things here and there but but it's all for the greater good, right? I mean, I'm glad that I'm able to work I'm glad that Bowling for Soup is able to be out there on the road I finally get this country album out and I'm just gonna start doing shows for that the fall. So you know, I guess if anything, it'll just keep me on.

Chuck Shute: 4:05

Oh, that's cool. I didn't know you are going to do shows for the country. Is it just like locally in Texas? Are you going to like tour?

Jaret Reddick: 4:12

So tour but Texas is a really, really big place. You can fit like three England's or four England's in here. So yeah, my focus is going to be on Texas where you can play three, four days a week for six, eight months and never played the same place. But, you know, in Texas country, that's just the way it is. You can go play all these little towns and you know, people will come out so my focus is Texas. You know, as I said, there'll be you know, some some other things here and there, Oklahoma and some places in the Midwest. We're like I can probably get people to come out and see me just, you know, because they know the name. But yeah, but Texas, Texas is going to be pretty much My focus as far as touring is concerned,

Chuck Shute: 5:02

to come to Arizona. That's not that far. It's no I.

Jaret Reddick: 5:06

I was bullied for students coming to Arizona.

Chuck Shute: 5:09

I know it sucks. You're coming the day that I'm going to Seattle. So

Jaret Reddick: 5:13

got it. Yeah, I was gonna say you have Seattle on your clock behind you. So

Chuck Shute: 5:17

yeah, I'm from Seattle, and then I moved to Arizona. I was 30. But I'm still like a Seahawks fan. No, you're a Steelers fan. So

Jaret Reddick: 5:23

I am yeah. Steelers fan born and raised. And you know, not changing that anytime. Yeah. And but yeah, everything else I root for Dallas, but just not not football. Oh, yeah.

Chuck Shute: 5:36

So you've watched it like the mavericks and stuff like that?

Jaret Reddick: 5:38

Maverick stars. I'll watch the Rangers during like playoffs or whatever. Right baseball's too much, you know, it's just, it's just way too much, but I will. I will root for them when it's when it's time when they need me the most.

Chuck Shute: 5:49

Yeah. Now, have you discovered the sports betting apps? Oh, sure.

Jaret Reddick: 5:54

Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 5:55

Aren't those fun?

Jaret Reddick: 5:56

Yeah, they're the best. It's a you can't use them. I mean, like I can do daily fantasy and things like that here in Texas, but we can't use the actual sports betting. Oh, you don't have those ones. We do have they're illegal here. Sports Betting is illegal in Texas. So like, you like I have an account with DraftKings the actual casino site. Yeah, that I can use when we're on the road. But when I'm in Texas, it won't let me do anything.

Chuck Shute: 6:21

I guess that'd be tough. Because even if it was in your hometown, yeah, you're on the road and then you can't it's really like resend they somehow they figure it out like right when I cross Arizona bow borders are like, you can't use this. I'm like, dammit,

Jaret Reddick: 6:33

yeah, yeah, I was up in Pennsylvania, we're doing the new Bowling for Soup record. And all the sports were going on. It was like, you know, the the after the first you know, it was when everything was just sort of getting back there were no crowds, but everybody was playing. And I was just I had so much fun with it. And you know, just gambling on all this stuff. And then I got home and I'm just like waiting. I can't even get to my money. I had to like, Wait till I was on tour to even go withdrawal it. So. But yeah, I do love doing that kind of thing. And, you know, it's back in the offshore days where they had the ones that were you could do they were boats, I guess out in the middle of the ocean. They had it they had it figured out. I used to do all that back in the day too. But anyway, so but I'll be on tour. And we'll be able to partake a little bit soon. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 7:20

fun. Okay, so yeah, let's talk about the new album. It's called just woke up. Yeah. And yeah, the first song way more country got uncle cracker to come on. And that's pretty cool.

Jaret Reddick: 7:28

Yeah, I, Matt and I have been friends for a really long time. We did a bunch of radio stuff together and actually just got to back in the, the earlier days of Twitter got to do in a back and forth quite a bit. And so yeah, he was gracious enough to come on and do the Kenny Rogers part on the on the first song, which was cool. I mean, you know, I had to, you know, it was really difficult as far as like, my features and stuff on this thing, because I probably, I could have easily put someone on every song but the main thing is on this record, is I didn't want it to be seen as a novelty. So I really had to walk of several fine lines as far as like, both the humor on the record itself, and then just sort of like, you know, duets, or features and things like that of like, you know, I wanted it to seem, you know, legitimate. So, but vocal cracker was, was a good choice because he sings on the Kenny Chesney song and he's had a few crossover hits in the country. So he just made sense for the song for sure.

Chuck Shute: 8:33

All right. Yeah, totally makes sense. Yeah, cuz like on the one song, one of the good ones. You have that line about James Bond, but you said that that you never met James Bond you seem to align to Ryan with on and on. But then back to the way more country song did you actually did Garth Brooks say that he was a fan.

Jaret Reddick: 8:50

Yeah, I have a photo of that moment, too. He. And it's actually it's so funny, because this goes back to the first part of this conversation. I go, Yeah, he goes. He goes, yes. What are you doing? I'm a musician. I'm in a band called Bowling for Soup. And the first thing he said to me, he just goes, Oh, you guys are busy. I was like, wow, that like Garth Brooks just told me that I'm busy. I'm like, but yeah, I have a photo of that moment, which I'll eventually put into the world. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm sure it's out there. I'm sure I've put it out there before but my ex wife isn't it so I need to use one of those apps where I make it look like a background or whatever. Not that there's anything right I just I wouldn't mind her being in it. But it's probably a little bit weird. You know, for for everybody that knows my wife now. But, but yeah, he was. He was very cool. Very gracious. We talked a little bit about Oklahoma and, and just country it was at a charity event and both of us were doing something there and yeah, he just very, very gracious with his time. And you know, could have could have easily just blown me off. But no, he knew exactly who Bowling for Soup was and, and, you know, new couple of the songs and that was cool. I mean, the guy's got kids. So, you know, I'd been there. It's not like we weren't playing in the house at some point, you know?

Chuck Shute: 10:15

Now that's a good point, is it? So is that pretty flattering when a big star like that is a fan. I mean, because just hearing that from a regular person, it's probably gets a little bit tiresome. But then when Garth Brooks says that it's like that has a little bit more cachet, right? Well,

Jaret Reddick: 10:28

it never gets tired of him. You know, like, people ask me that all the time. Like, do you get sick of people coming up to you do that. And it's like, you know, the day that I go, wow. And I don't get at least somebody to say something to me. Like, just if I walked by the grocery store, and they're just like, big fan or, you know, hey, love your stuff, or whatever, or they want a picture or they want to have or they want to talk about something or whatever the day that stops happening is the day that I'm irrelevant. And, you know, so I, you know, I just never take any of it for granted. But yeah, of course, you know, when someone I mean, you know, Dave Grohl set was we, you know, as we were walking up to him, he was like us the Bowling for Soup, guys, you guys rock? And you know, like that kind of stuff. When you hear that? You're just like, man. Yeah, I mean, really, the the thing that enters your mind is just like, okay, you've thought about me before? Like, I mean, it's not like anything other than that, really, it's just like, I can't even believe that at some point. I was on your mind, you know, before this particular point. So yeah, I mean, and Garth Brooks is a big one. You know, I mean, like that you really don't get more famous in America than that guy. You know, I mean, you know, just it's, that's as bad as as big as it gets.

Chuck Shute: 11:44

You should have got him to plan your new album.

Jaret Reddick: 11:47

Well, we just discussed this earlier, remember? Yeah. You know, Jesus, Chuck.

Chuck Shute: 11:52

It's not I know, it's not about the guests. But come on. That would have been pretty cool.

Jaret Reddick: 11:56

Yeah, it would have been cool. Maybe next time, we'll still got it. Sebastian Bach is supposed to sing on one of my country songs coming up. So

Chuck Shute: 12:03

what are you, I love him. He's like my favorite singers. He's definitely my number one when I was in high school.

Jaret Reddick: 12:10

He's the greatest metal singer of all time, and as far as I'm concerned. And then another cool thing about that, like that guy, he hears you know, he's read that I say that all the time and stuff. So when I met him, he was like, Man, I really appreciate you know, how the all of the kind things you said to me and all these different magazines, because I'm sure he Googles himself. You know, we all do it sometimes. And, you know, all of a sudden, there's this pop punk band talking about him all the time and shit, but but his daughter Sebastiana is a big Bowling for Soup fan. So it's it's one of those things where worlds worlds are interesting, right? Sometimes they collide in the funniest way, because I grew up listening to him, you know? And is his kids are our bowling pursuit fans. So but but yeah, despite all of the things you hear about him, he's a, as far as my experience with Sebastian Bach is a very, very sweet guy. And I jokingly was like, hey, you know, you want to sing on one of these country songs when I do this record? He was like, of course. Well, that was you know, many years ago. Well, now that I've done it, I'm just like, Okay, remember, and hold you to that. And so yeah, hopefully, we'll get him on the next record.

Chuck Shute: 13:20

On the next one. Okay. Cool. Yeah, it's interesting, like when you say you Google yourself, because as I was looking at some of the comments last night, for some of the videos that you got, you guys have so many amazing videos, but it's what I thought was so cool, is that if somebody talks shit, all your fans come to your defense. Yeah. And I thought that was really cool. Because like, I have people that troll me, but like, I have to come to my own defense, I don't have any, so cool that you guys have these fans that like, you know,

Jaret Reddick: 13:47

we did. It's one of the things where I had to learn, you know, through, you know, this insane. These changes in the world, you know, and social media and all of this. And, you know, from the point where we started to the point where we are now, you know, and I used to get on there and defend myself or defend the guys or, or whatever. But yeah, if they just do it for me now, so and I don't really google myself, I sort of said that early. I don't know why I said that was I really don't, because I don't, I don't really need to read like, you know, what's gonna come up, you know that I did your podcast or this or this. Why, obviously cool air, you know, when I did it, so. But

Chuck Shute: 14:29

people send you stuff. Do people say like, oh, did you see this article about you or something?

Jaret Reddick: 14:34

Yeah, I get that kind of stuff all the time. I mean, really, the negative stuff? I don't anymore, because first of all, there's just not a lot of like, genuine negativity about our band in the world anymore, because we've been doing it for so long. I mean, we just turned 28 Two days ago. And so I think when you get to be a band that's been together as long as it's just even press what's the point, like, what what do you say? Like, you know, well, this is just this or this or this. But the point, the point is, people are still buying our albums or streaming, our streaming numbers are insanely huge. And people come to our shows. So what really what is the point for you to dissect something that we're doing and tell us that there's something wrong with it, you know, so we don't get a lot of bad stuff. You know, we get shit like, Hey, you got fat, or, you know, whatever we miss Eric, you know, it's, you know, shit like that, which is fine. I mean, that's just somebody taking a shot in the dark, just to see if you'll interact with them, you know? And so, yeah, I just let the I just let the let the fans handle that themselves, you know, and it seems to work out just fine.

Chuck Shute: 15:43

How are the reception for this new country album is? I mean, is it getting good reactions from the fans and the critics?

Jaret Reddick: 15:50

Yeah, it's doing really good. I mean, you know, it's, I really haven't read many bad things. There's been one or two, just sort of like math reviews of it, which you can just sort of again, I think critics are just such an it's just such an interesting thing to me, because music is subjective, you know, and food is subjective, and all these things. So when you're just reading what somebody else thinks about something, it seems silly to me. Like, I just don't, why wouldn't you want to read something that someone that likes the same things as you? You know, I don't know. Maybe this is too deep of a topic. But

Chuck Shute: 16:25

no, I love it. I was honestly gonna be right before you came on. I was like, why do people become critics? Hate things? I never understood that.

Jaret Reddick: 16:32

What is the point? You know, we have a I'm actually doing a interview with one of the publication's here in Dallas, after I get off the off this with you. And they've never been anything but just brutal to everybody and music here. And it's just like, What is the point, like, trying to build your scene, you know, and help people out and encourage people to go out and see things and all of that. So, critics, you know, to me, you know, I, I want it to be good. But when it's not. And like I said, that doesn't happen a lot anymore. With Bowling for Soup, but Oh, anyway, so the country? Um, yes, reception has been great. You know, look, I'm in a, I'm in a pop punk band. So obviously, there's a very large part of my of the boilersuit fan base that is like, Nope, I don't like country and I'm just like, that's cool. No big deal. I mean, I've done enough side projects to know that not everybody that's a Bowling for Soup fan is gonna just go over and like that. And first of all, it's so hard to even tell them all about it, because of the way that Facebook and Instagram and all of that work, you know, you can't I mean, I wish I could put out some sort of a memo to all 800,000 people that like us on Facebook that says, Oh, this exists, but you just can't do that. So but yeah, so far so good. You know, I could not be happier with I just charted in Texas. So as we talked about earlier, Texas, a big place, we have our own country chart. And I just hit the top 50 Which for a debut single, I'm told is a pretty good deal. So yeah, I mean, it's I honestly, I'm freaking stoked.

Chuck Shute: 18:09

Yeah, especially I had Edgar Winter on and I was asking him about you know, does he care if he gets a lot of listens because his new album was doing pretty good. But he said his for him. It was the biggest thing was getting approval from his peers. Like if his the musicians that he's in the circle with if they say, Hey, you did really good, then that's all he needs is Do you feel Do you agree with that?

Jaret Reddick: 18:31

I never really thought about it that way before but I will say that more than ever since since doing the solo country record. I just I hear from someone every other day that I've just like out of the blue. It's just you know, like this singer for this band or this. Dude, I just listened to your country record. That's frickin insane. Ly good. And so that's been really cool. You know? I mean, I yeah, just actually a couple of days ago, Aaron from real big fish hit me up just like my God, that fucking country record is insane. And so yeah, I mean, I don't it does feel good. I mean, to be honest, I'm not really I guess that's new to me. Because really from the Bowling for Soup standpoint, I don't really hear a lot from from our peers much we know when we do new stuff. But I certainly have on on the solo front so yeah, and it's been really nice. I mean, I some very, very nice emails and texts coming from when people actually find the time to listen which I you know, that's the thing is I know, you know, we talked about how busy I am but everybody's busy. Right? You know, and for somebody just take the time and listen, is means a lot to me.

Chuck Shute: 19:41

Yeah, no, I love it. I was just listening to a yesterday and then again, right before because I was getting kind of nervous from this interview. I was like, listen to your music. I was like, Oh, this is actually like mellowing me out. I think it's a good kind of out kind of album. I like that. I like to think of music as what am I going to do with this? Am I gonna rock out to my work? Get out to it. And like for me, this is like kind of a mellowing album. Yeah,

Jaret Reddick: 20:03

a lot of people are saying that it's a good driving record. You know, I could I could hear that. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's the thing, right? I, I wanted to make a an old school country album. And I think that's the path that I'm going to stay on. As far as just my overall vibe. And what I'm going to do, I don't plan to, um, I don't really plan to like polish it up and go like super Nashville at all. Like, I really want to keep it super simple. And, and because I already do that thing. You know, like the Bowling for Soup is just polished punk rock. Tons and tons of just layers of vocals and shit that you wouldn't even ever imagine that's on there. You know? Like, there's be three organ all over the song. You're like, what? You know, like, yeah, it's fucking everywhere, you know? So. I like that. You can hear everything that's there. You know that? You don't have to even wonder, you know, it's like, oh, there's a violin, you know? And so yeah, I am pretty happy with it. Yeah, I

Chuck Shute: 21:05

think the royal family is I think that was a banjo and then is the UN beer. Is that a fiddle or violin?

Jaret Reddick: 21:12

Yeah, so we got a fiddle. A Fiddle is a violin, isn't it? Aren't they the same thing?

Chuck Shute: 21:17

I don't know. You're the musician.

Jaret Reddick: 21:20

You were trying to stump me or so? No, I

Chuck Shute: 21:22

thought it was different. I thought. Is it the exact same thing?

Jaret Reddick: 21:26

They're exactly the same thing. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 21:28

well, I'm an idiot then. Okay. That's a dumb question. Then.

Jaret Reddick: 21:33

You take a step up and you go a little bit more baritone. That's a viola and then you get to a cello and then shit. Okay.

Chuck Shute: 21:41

My friends a music teacher. He's gonna kill me for not knowing that like,

Jaret Reddick: 21:44

Yeah, I mean, I don't I mean, if there's a difference I don't know that and I've been literally in music my entire life. You probably

Chuck Shute: 21:51

know Yeah, you know band kid. Right. But see you're not orchestra? No, I

Jaret Reddick: 21:56

did orchestra played both. Oh, yeah, I played company in orchestra. And yeah, I managed to wiggle my way in as a freshman, which never happened back then. And all four years played timpani and orchestra in, in the Honors band. And then I was in marching band as well playing the snare drum.

Chuck Shute: 22:15

That's cool. So then explain to me like how did you guys go? I just love the like people's kind of origin stories like how you guys went from your planet? This was this coffeehouse, the refuge? Yeah. And then you go from that to before you get on the majors, you're selling you sold 10,000 copies of your EP. Is that? Is that what it was?

Jaret Reddick: 22:34

Yeah, we sold 20,000 copies of owner of rock on Audible ones and 10,000 copies of our EP. We actually sold about 8000 We had to destroy some when we got signed, because that we weren't allowed to sell it anymore. But yeah, we we were selling so many albums, just out of the back of the car. Because you know, we were doing really, really well. You know, you start you start pushing to 300 CDs a knight, it adds up pretty darn quick, you know? So yeah, I mean, we were we basically we started out just you know, like I said in the in the refuge, coffee house and Greenway Alley was another little sort of vintage clothing, secondhand store in Wichita Falls and graduated up to a few bars here and there, but we really couldn't get an audience in our hometown. So we moved to Denton in about 96. Right about the time we started to take it super serious. And things happen pretty quick for us locally. We, you know, got to be kind of the biggest local band here in Denton, and then Dallas and then but we had already worked out all these other small towns, we were already doing really, really well. So we, yeah, we that's kind of it. I mean, we just

Chuck Shute: 23:57

but how did you do that? Like how did you sell that? Like I heard you say something about you had this rule that if people ask you to go to a party after the show, you would always say yes is that to network and to sell

Jaret Reddick: 24:06

100%? So like the thing was, what we did was we did something that no other bands were doing and that is we were going in playing little towns so towns of like 100,000 people Abilene St. Angelo Corpus Christi is bigger. But you know, Amarillo Lubbock, El Paso, you know, San Antonio, Austin, Houston, the bigger towns but we were going to Waco, we're going to long view we're you know, all of these towns were like not a lot of bands played and we would I would call in and I would, I had a fake a fake name. I'd be like, this is Jeb Ryan from fro records. And we got a band from Dallas just coming through looking for a stop there in town. And so we would go there and they'd give us a gig and we would, you know, make friends with everybody that we that we met. But yeah, that was the rule. The rule was you could never say no to an after party because if you were out As shown you had 20 people, if you go and you hang out with those people, and give them a story, then the next time you come, there's 40 people, and you just keep doing that. And so we had, like actual crowds, and every one of those cities that I just named, by the time, you know, 9798, we were playing in all those places, and we would sell out every single one of those places in Texas. This goes back to what we were talking about earlier. I mean, think about that. And then you can go five times smaller than that in the country, worlds are just so many places to play here. But But Dallas fans weren't doing that. So we would take the Dallas bands go like, Hey, you guys want to go play like three days in West Texas with us? And played at three 500 people a night? And for that, can we get on your show here at this place? You know, that we've never gotten to play? And so yeah, worked worked like a charm. You know, we were, we were making waves and, you know, doing really, really well. I mean, we didn't really, I mean, it was nice that we signed a deal when we did, but quite frankly, it was a big hit in 99, when we signed to jive because, you know, then we were on the road and going out and playing all these places that we had never been in there was nobody there. So but yeah, that's, that's how we did it. Just a very, very much a an idea that just worked. And it worked in every city.

Chuck Shute: 26:23

That's smart. It's just like you're grinding, basically, you just keep going and just and you're traveling. And because I see that's kind of a problem, I think with a lot of bands now is like, they want to just do it from their tick tock and expect it to go viral. But I think it doesn't work, I think you still need to get out there and do like a grassroots.

Jaret Reddick: 26:40

To an extent, you know, I think the biggest thing that's changed is, is that people don't go see music for discovery anymore. So you don't just have a place down the street, that just has bands, and you and you and your friends go there on Friday and Saturday nights. And if you like when you go see him again, sometimes it doesn't. It's not like that, you know, you just, that's not the world we live in. I mean, what at one point in the 90s here, you know, all the clubs would do this thing where where you could go in and out of all the clubs, there'd be 40 bands playing, you know, and it cost five bucks, and you got a wristband and you went in and out of all these places. And, you know, it was great, that kind of thing just doesn't exist anymore. So you do have to sort of build your following. But yes, you're building out regionally is what you have to do, you have to get a crowd going. And then you get to meet other bands and trade shows. So if I'm in Dallas, what I should be doing, or what I would tell everybody else that they need to do is, you know, develop that crowd here until you're headlining a nice sized place. And then you find a band from Oklahoma and you trade shows, you know, and, and that's how you do it. But yeah, it's, it's a different world. I mean, this, the Tick Tock thing, and the and Instagram and all of that can't be downplayed, because it is such an important part of, of, of doing it these days, which kind of sucks, but also it's kind of fun, you know? No, no, really, oh, I

Chuck Shute: 28:04

think it's kind of like you said, like, if you go and you have like 20 people, though, the next time you go could be 40. Because if those 20 people are all sharing it on their social media and telling people how great of a show it was, yep, then hopefully it grows that way.

Jaret Reddick: 28:15

There's one or 2% too, and yeah, and you get this organic sort of like street team now where it's like, whereas, you know, we used to have to mobilize a street team back in the day and like, try to get people to request things now you have your like, you almost have them signed up, you know, just by them liking all your stuff now so yeah, it's again, it's just an ever evolving world there's no real you know, right way it's just and I that's the thing that I feel bad for. It's just so hard to just go out and just tour now. Because it's just, you know, there's just not really a grassroots network for that. So you know, which which was the best times in our life you know, was that was the van nine years in that van? But I would never go back I really liked the bus a lot.

Chuck Shute: 29:07

Well, do you think it's worth it for some of these younger bands to buy on to to it that's a that's a big thing that's happening now is a bionic, with a bigger band to open forum.

Jaret Reddick: 29:16

I don't let people I let a band by on one time and it I felt it felt very gross. I hated. It felt gross from the standpoint of you know, all of it. I didn't like it. I didn't like taking their money. I didn't like the fact that that now this fan is on this bill with me. And it's not the same relationship that I have with other bands that we play with. And you know, just all of it felt very disingenuous. And so I'm not a fan of that. However, if you've got the money and and the band is drawing people that you think you're gonna like your band, I mean, it's a great way to get in front of people, but I I'm just not really my thing. But again, there's nothing wrong with it, I just won't take, I'm not going to take anybody's money anymore. I did it again, the one time I just don't like, even back in the day of like people, labels or agents or whatever, forcing other bands onto our bills and stuff like that. I don't allow that to happen anymore, either. I just, it's just not I it's just not representative of what I feel like, our show should be like, one of the good things about this fan base that you and I were discussing earlier, also is there's a trust that if they come see us, they're gonna get a really great night of bands and that, you know, that, like, they're going to come see this band, they're gonna be like, Okay, well, they're friends with Bowling for Soup or whatever, we're going to follow them now. And that's important to me, you know, that, that I'm bringing someone along that I'm saying, Hey, you guys need to pay attention to these guys. And so, you know, I'm, I'm pretty strict on that. Leads.

Chuck Shute: 30:59

Okay, yeah, cuz you're touring now with less than Jake. Obviously, they don't need to buy anywhere. But is there other bands? So how do you find an opener then? Do you? Is it somebody that sends you a source that you just find on Spotify? Or how do you find openers?

Jaret Reddick: 31:13

Different ways? I mean, you know, this one. The first tour is us. Less than Jake Aquabats at a band called Don't panic, who I just took to the UK. And they're great. Everybody should go check them out. And then the second leg is us less than Jake, a band called Cliff diver from Tulsa, Oklahoma. I actually met them on the internet. And then they're on side one dummy, which my buddy Joe SIB is the owner of that label. He's a stand up comedian now, but he's also a legendary punk rock, punk rock singer. He owns that label. And so they didn't really try to force the issue. They were just like, hey, if if you guys have an opening slot or whatever, we'd love to have Cliff diver on there. And they're just a really fun band. So we got them on there. And then yeah, and then there's a few other bands that are joining in along the way that we've agreed on with less than Jake and it's just, uh, it's gonna be freaking great.

Chuck Shute: 32:08

Awesome, man. Well, I'll have to maybe I'll have to do a road trip to since I won't be in Phoenix when you're here. And I'll when I think we don't come to Seattle until after I leave there. So

Jaret Reddick: 32:17

yeah, well, it'd be worth it. We're, we're still just that good.

Chuck Shute: 32:22

No, I've never seen you live. And I'm like, How is that possible? So many vans, warped tours and things? And

Jaret Reddick: 32:28

absolutely, yeah, did very a lot. A lot of those things. And

Chuck Shute: 32:32

I don't those ones, the vans?

Jaret Reddick: 32:35

Yeah, I miss it. I mean, you know, it's, you hate doing it, while you're there. It's freaking hot. And, you know, there's kind of nowhere to be and, you know, it's but every night, you know, after all your shows, you just sitting up there by your bus and hanging with all the other bands. And it's like, you know, it really is is like punk rock summer camp. And some of the, you know, some of my favorite relationships that I have in this industry came from, from, you know, those nights. And, you know, so again, it's a lot of work, especially for the crews. And, you know, again, it's very, very hot. And, you know, but I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't take any of those back. And if he were to start doing it again, I would do it in a heartbeat.

Chuck Shute: 33:20

Are they not doing it anymore? Is it? Is it canceled? It

Jaret Reddick: 33:23

stopped in 2018? And okay, yeah, so that was the final crosscut. Because the guy who runs it, Kevin Lyman is, you know, he's, he he's admittedly getting a little bit older. He's trying to enjoy his life. He's teaching at USC now and, and promoting a lot of crazy shows. But, but but that took his whole summer for, you know, the better part of his life. If he weren't there, it wouldn't run the way that it did. It's just one of those things were like a, you know, like a small restaurant, if the owner is not there, you know, just it wouldn't run the same and worked or wouldn't wouldn't run the same without Kevin So, and he knew that. And so I think stopping was it. You know, you always want to quit like your head. Right.

Chuck Shute: 34:09

Yeah, that's admirable that he did wouldn't want to just keep it going and have somebody else run it. Knowing that it wouldn't be the same.

Jaret Reddick: 34:16

Yeah, I and I do agree. I think any band that you ask about it that did it, you know, multiple times would be like, oh, yeah, there's no possible because he was just, he's just everywhere, and the sweetest guy in the world. And he did so much for so many bands. I mean, there's just yeah, there's, you'd be hard pressed to find a band that ever played that tour. That had a negative thing to say about Kevin Lyman.

Chuck Shute: 34:41

Yeah, well, I think that was a good way to get to know new bands with these giant tours or those giant festivals and they'll be like, you know, they'll kind of be the bottom of the list, but that's a good way to get your name out there.

Jaret Reddick: 34:53

Yeah, totally. Yeah. You know, Rob, our bass player was on many, many times as a kid and You know, playing the smallest stages and, you know, out there grinding it. And, you know, is just fantastic, fantastic tour, lots of fun to be a part of that thing.

Chuck Shute: 35:10

Very cool. We got to talk. We kind of talk music videos. That's I think I feel like that's such a big part of your band. Yeah, because you guys have these epic music videos. They're all like, so funny. And I mean, I guess that goes with the music too. But when I'm when I'm listening to Bowling for Soup, I feel like I almost have to see the video to go with it.

Jaret Reddick: 35:26

Yeah. Yeah, um, you know, that's kind of always been a big part of our thing. You know, when, when we were, you know, first got on Jive or whatever. And, you know, MTV was actually still playing videos, and even after night when 1985 came out, and we're talking about the fact that music wasn't on MTV anymore. And but still VH one was playing the shit out of us. So. But yeah, and I think a lot of people forget, or don't know, that YouTube is still the number one place for discovery of music by young people. So, you know, some sort of visual representation of the song is super important. And I tell bands that all the time, you know, like, there's bands that are asking me for advice, and I'm like, Do you have a video for every song you've ever put out? There, like know, whether you have work to do, you know, like, get busy. Because there should be some sort of visual representation of every single thing that you put out, whether it's a lyric video, or, or whatever, you know, because, look, 1000 views on that thing is a lot. 10,000 is, is a lot 100,000 A million, whatever. I mean, it's, it's, that's that's how people find music still. So, yeah, we put a lot of thought into our videos. And, in fact, our new videos being edited right now for a song called Hello, anxiety.

Chuck Shute: 36:49

I was just gonna ask you, are you going to be doing that one next? Because that song so catchy? That's great.

Jaret Reddick: 36:53

Yeah, I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna do very, very well. And, you know, it's just, it's a real song about, you know, my own struggles with, with anxiety and stuff. And but I did it in a happy way. So and that was the whole idea. And so the video I'm not going to say anything else, because I'm, I'm very, very excited for people to see it. But it's, it just is exactly what you think in your head is good, because

Chuck Shute: 37:24

when you hear the story, the song it's telling a story. So it's like, I felt like no one needed a video. I'm glad that that's

Jaret Reddick: 37:30

100% Yeah, it's amazing. And, and I'm hoping so, so. I had a big weekend. Um, I but yes, I'm very excited about that one. I think that one might be our, our first big Tiktok song too. So we'll see what happens. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 37:51

well, we got the getting old sucks. I won with the puppets. And then I want to be Brad Pitt. That's another one that it's like, you had to make a video for that one. Because the song just lends itself how many Brad Pitt movies are referenced in that?

Jaret Reddick: 38:04

Oh, my goodness. Well, I mean, you know, I speaking of of bad press that that song, for some reason people didn't get the the thing that I it's just essentially just a Brad Pitt just, you know, just a like a a. What do you call it when you have like a shrine? It's a shrine to Brad Pitt. Yes. Oh. And so there's a few critics are just like, all he's doing is just naming a bunch of stuff that Brad Pitt's done. And I'm like, Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm like, This is great. He did this thing. And he did this. And he did this, you know. And that's the whole point of the song is just silly. Like, you don't actually want to be Brad Pitt. But you know, probably wouldn't suck for a day, you know, but anyway. Yeah, I don't know. I've never counted the references, but it's a lot.

Chuck Shute: 38:52

So some people thought you were they did they think you were mocking Him because it's more explicit

Jaret Reddick: 38:56

meant I didn't see the substance in it. They just a few of the reviews and again, it's but the point is, it's a silly song. Yeah. So like, but they just, I That's it. That's the whole thing, right? It's like Van Halen by nerf her. It's like, I mean, all they're doing is just taking a few lines from Van Halen songs. They made it into a song about Van Halen. It's freaking brilliant. So yeah, I but yeah, all in all. I mean, Brad Pitt has an ear worm. And people have people have definitely, definitely liked it.

Chuck Shute: 39:29

Yeah, won't people will be Googling Brad Pitt and they'll find your video. It's pretty smart marketing.

Jaret Reddick: 39:34

That's right. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 39:35

Did you as he heard it? Does he have an opinion on it?

Jaret Reddick: 39:39

I don't know for sure that he's heard it uncertain that he has because both guys that play Brad Pitt in the video have worked with him in the past. And so I feel certain that he has to have heard the thing. I mean, you know, he's not he doesn't live under a rock. So

Chuck Shute: 39:57

he probably Googled himself.

Jaret Reddick: 40:00

I doubt it, man. I

Chuck Shute: 40:02

think he's too cool for that. He's like, um, Brad Pitt. I don't need to

Jaret Reddick: 40:05

do it. I think so. I mean, he's pretty fucking cool. You know? Yeah. I mean, I don't I don't know that he necessarily needs all that guy's busy guy.

Chuck Shute: 40:15

Yeah, for sure. Well, Alexa Bliss. I mean, she obviously heard your song. She's in the video. Tell the story about that. I thought that was pretty cool. How like when you gave her the song on her birthday?

Jaret Reddick: 40:25

Yeah, I gave her the song on her birthday, we had become friends. And just through happenstance of me being at a wrestling event. And with my son and knowing that she at one point in her life had like Bowling for Soup. So you know, we became friendly that way. And she was very gracious and had us come up to Royal Rumble throughout the whole family. And we got to meet pretty much everybody. And it was it was just it was great. She was just really gracious, but in my you know, my exposure to wrestling. During that time, I was like, man, everybody's got these COC rock songs. But nobody's gonna pop punk song. It's silly because there's so many people that love pop punk. And it's like, Girl the bad guys one is Alexis is Lexi's favorite song and she loves yellow card and, you know, Bowling for Soup and blank and you know, just that's that's the kind of music she likes. She needs a song. And so yeah, I, myself and my, my best buddy Linus wrote, wrote that song and I sent her the rough mix on her birthday. And she she sent me a video back and she was crying because she was so happy. And but yeah, it you know, it's done really good for us. And we had so much fun making the video. And she was amazing. Because I was like, look, I mean, if I could get you to be in the video for like, three seconds, it would be the greatest thing on earth. And she was like, oh, no, no, I want to be in the hole. I want to I want to do it. I want to do it. Right, you know, and she got the WWE to sign off on all of it. And they were amazing. And you know, it just couldn't have gone any better. And then the there was discussions of us playing her out at WrestleMania that year, then that's the year COVID hits. So it did not happen, unfortunately. But but it doesn't matter to me it you know, it's it's funny, she I was just at her wedding a few weeks ago, she married Ryan Cabrera who I've known since he was a kid because he's from here. And his band room his groove used to open up for Bowling for Soup all the time. So, you know, I've known that guy forever. And, and they're just such a great couple. So is it's and I was one of their first text conversations. So I take credit for the whole relationship.

Chuck Shute: 42:37

Nice. So you get to tell that story at the wedding.

Jaret Reddick: 42:40

No, he did. He he he said, I surprised her and saying girl, the bad guys wanted the reception and Ryan as I was going out because I gotta give this next guy some credit. Like, you know, I found out you know about that he knew Lexie or whatever. And I used it the conversation to kind of keep the conversation going or whatever. And, you know, now we're married. So it was, it was nice. It was he's good kid and they're very happy together, which is, you know, just makes me happy.

Chuck Shute: 43:11

Now that's super cool. The song High School never ends. That's another one. That's like an awesome music video. Now, I know that's probably meant to be funny. But I also feel like is it also kind of a social commentary? Like it's so accurate?

Jaret Reddick: 43:23

Yeah, it's, uh, it's definitely it's funny, but it's not funny. It's right. You know, again, it's, I just did this Tik Tok video the other day where this, this, this girl that I follow who does a lot of stuff about, you know, about mental health and anxiety and just, you know, that kind of thing. And she's just like, you ever, like, think about when you were in high school, and you're just like, you know, this is wrong, and this is wrong, and this is wrong. And someday, it's all going to be better, but it's just the same shit every day that I'm just on the other side of the screen, and then it just goes, high school never ends. And so, I was like, I tried to tell you all this shit 15 years ago. But, ya know, I mean, because the reason I wrote that down in my, in the, in my little book of ideas in the first place, years before me and Adam Schlesinger wrote that song, may he rest in peace, oh, I didn't even know that. He and I wrote that together.

Chuck Shute: 44:18

He's, I'm a big fan of his work.

Jaret Reddick: 44:21

Just the best, but he, um, I had that idea written down forever. And the reason I wrote it down was because it's true, you know, these cliques that that we have in life and just the way friendships work, and just, you know, just all of it, it's just, it just never ends. It's just kind of always the same and my kids even say it to me, like now my, my daughter's 19 and working and going to college and she's just like, it's just crazy how it's just all exactly the same. You just go to different places. And everything just functions exactly the same as high school does. I'm like, yeah, it's just, it's an ever it never ends it. It really doesn't like you're I'm, I'm 50 years old and shit happens and I'm just like, This is so fucking, like this is so ridiculous like, why are we doing this but, but yeah, little social commentary there about your boy Jared.

Chuck Shute: 45:12

Yeah no that's I love that. I didn't realize this to let you speak about Adam slight you've had some amazing co writers, but 1985 was that song? It was like mostly written by Mitch Allen from SR 71. So why did you? Why did he give that song to you? Why do you keep that for himself? It's such a good song.

Jaret Reddick: 45:30

I'm gonna put my tick tock here. Everybody could share it Redick on tick tock and it's pinned to the top. If you want to know the answer to that question, go to Jarrett Redick on tick tock and it's the very first tic tock you can watch and you can hear the answer to that. See what I did there. Awesome. I use your platform to advertise my own shit.

Chuck Shute: 45:52

I love it. No. And people can go on my tech talk to I have like, I don't know four followers or something. But probably you have a lot more but no, let's go on follow you on tick tock. I didn't know you're on there.

Jaret Reddick: 46:02

Yeah, I but yes, that story is, you know, it's it's funny, I was just talking to him. Well, two nights ago, because I was reading it, it pops up every once in a while or somebody's like, a cover that you didn't know was a cover. And it's like, it's not like we ever heard anything about that song away. Like he's in the video.

Chuck Shute: 46:24

Like, it's like, when you wrote the bridge, right? You changed it or something.

Jaret Reddick: 46:27

Yeah, changed a bunch of lyrics and wrote rewrote the bridge and, and, you know, took out the part where the rubber breaks and, and the the line were George's gay and I, you know, took a bunch of that stuff out and made it a little less like a little more like light. And yeah, it did great. And he you know, and he and obviously he couldn't be happier. He says all the time. He sent me a video a day he goes, Hey, thanks. You just bought me a pool. Yeah, man, we did it.

Chuck Shute: 46:59

That's awesome. Is there? There's so many references. Is that in that song and the video? Is there any that are kind of like Easter eggs? Oh, is there anything that maybe people don't pick up on that are in the song or the video that are more subtle?

Jaret Reddick: 47:12

I mean, does she get a hand on a member of Duran Duran is an Easter egg if you take that I didn't necessarily mean a member of the band. So I snuck that one by members in their dick

Chuck Shute: 47:32

I never thought of that.

Jaret Reddick: 47:33

Yeah. So here's a bunch of stuff like that in Bowling for Soup songs that like yeah, it's very. And I don't really ever talk about it. I just let people discover it. And then it happens all the time. Like Yeah, somebody will come up to me and go oh my god, that song dance with you. You go got inside to a home your defense says and he goes, you put a fucking hole in defenses. I'm like, Yeah, I can did that on purpose or whatever. Oh my God, that's genius. Yeah, I like shit like that where you can sort of just leave those things there. And

Chuck Shute: 48:08

yeah, you know, it's funny. I saw a comment on your one of your videos. And it said the girl said, I love this song. You know the girl the bad guys want she's like, I just want I was singing that song when I was a kid. I never realized cream and over tough guys. I never knew what that meant as a little kid now I got it. What a great song.

Jaret Reddick: 48:24

Oh, it's I think we had to change it to dreamin on. Oh, you were the radio stations. But yeah, that one didn't get bleeped at all. I hardly ever either. So like I was always very surprised by that.

Chuck Shute: 48:39

That's, that's like when I had Ted Nugent on and I asked him about Cat Scratch Fever. I'm like, how did you get the line? You made the pussy per? He's like, it's about a cat. I don't I don't understand censorship. It doesn't make it. Like things they censor and the things they don't. Okay.

Jaret Reddick: 48:53

I don't know. Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, working on Phineas and Ferb. You know, they would tell me stories, and I would never ever sell them out. But they just would play games with the sensors. And they were always it's so funny, because they would they told me like, you know, we would do these Blyton ones and they wouldn't catch it, you know, like we got and then but then they would they would find something about something that we meant absolutely nothing by and they would send to that. So yeah, I mean, you know, it is all it is what it is, it's a game we all play, you know, in whatever area it is in which we're playing it but but yeah, yeah, it's, you know, it is what it is, right?

Chuck Shute: 49:35

Yeah, I know. That reminds me of the South Park movie. I remember those guys saying that. They would send it to the sensors and the sensors say no, you can't do this. And so then they would change it. They said that they made it worse. And then they sent it back and the sensor said, okay, that's okay.

Jaret Reddick: 49:48

Yeah, I saw that too. And it's just like, because it's like they needed to say something about something, you know? Yeah. So that they're doing their job right. And that's that's a big thing with the You know, when you're on a record when you're on a big label, you know, you, everybody's got to try to have some sort of input on things. And so you can do things like that or you're just like, you know, here's, here's our best here's the best photographs from the from the session that we just did. We don't like those send them some more than we actually send them the ones that we liked. Be like, yeah, these are way better. Yeah, that kind of shit all the time. Like, just you just play the game, you know? Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 50:29

Well, I was trying to find Do you have the you have this picture on your Tiktok or Instagram or something? The picture of you from the Grammys that you said you got nominated for worse dress? That's like the thing that we're most proud of even more so than nominated for the Grammy.

Jaret Reddick: 50:43

Yeah, we got Joan. We got Joan Rivers were stressed and People Magazine we got we were stressed as well. So pretty good. That's pretty good stuff.

Chuck Shute: 50:53

Where are those pictures? I couldn't find him.

Jaret Reddick: 50:55

Oh, shit. I don't know. I don't I mean, you know, that's, that's pre digital age. We were we had disposable cameras with us at the st Grammys. Because all the photos that I have are from those disposable cameras. So who knows?

Chuck Shute: 51:08

Somebody will somebody will send it to me. I hope it doesn't think figure that out. What was so bad about it was it just you remember what you're wearing?

Jaret Reddick: 51:16

Oh, you don't even know what we were wearing? No, I don't Okay. Oh, okay. So we were basically wearing the blue tuxes.

Chuck Shute: 51:22

Oh, from the cover of the that Oh, yeah. Oh, that's awesome. But we

Jaret Reddick: 51:28

but we instead of the pants we were blue Dickies cut off. And we all had matching shoes and stuff. So but yeah, it was it was just it was just that whole thing, but we looked really cool, because it was you could spot us from any camera and thing because we were off. We're sitting next to one another. So you know, it's obviously probably not the worst dress of anyone ever, but we certainly made. We certainly made waves everywhere we were going.

Chuck Shute: 51:55

Is that where you saw? Did you hear you say you saw Michael J Fox? at the

Jaret Reddick: 51:58

Grammys? Yeah, I freaked me out. I like everybody that I expected to see there. You know, it was like, oh, okay, and here's this person and I'm shaking hands with BB King and Bonnie Raitt. Kiss me and told me how cute I was. And it was just like, all of this insanity that you would think would freak you out. I peed next to Elvis Costello. But, but yeah, when Michael J. Fox walked in, I was just like, What the fuck? I did you know? Oh, my God. That's crazy. Because, you know, that's a big part of big part of childhood right there. Oh, yeah. And Marty McFly and goodness just didn't will fan or your team or fan? Yeah, like Teen Wolf. I mean, I wouldn't say that, that, that I you know, I haven't watched that movie in a long time that I like Team Wolf.

Chuck Shute: 52:43

Yeah, I loved when I was a kid. Did you get to like shake his hand or anything? Or?

Jaret Reddick: 52:47

I did. I he, he had handlers. And, you know, I think it was just really kind of the beginning of his Parkinson's sitch. And so I steered clear, I waited for a moment and it just never been, I tried never to, to beat anybody up. You know, I am always I always try to just like anything that's going to happen. I try to let it just happen organically. As for if I'm going to meet somebody, or have somebody introduce me, I very seldom will just I'm pretty shy actually.

Chuck Shute: 53:19

It's not how you want fans, if somebody sees you, you care if they come up to you or what you don't give

Jaret Reddick: 53:24

a shit. Yeah, I'd rather you just I would rather you just come up to me than stare at me. Or, like, take pictures of me eating, you know, like, I'd rather let's just get this out of the way. Come come up and say something, you know, so, you know, back in the early days of, of, you know, 2003 2004 or five, you know, we were, you know, really doing well. And, you know, we'd be sitting at the table eating with my family or whatever. You just look over and somebody's like videotaping us eating. Just like, Man fucking just come over here. And just, like just asked me to stand up and I will you know, whatever. But But yeah, again, I don't take any of that shit for granted. I I welcome anyone to come up and say hello, anytime.

Chuck Shute: 54:11

Yeah. Did you ever get like because I my friends was married to the Sarah new found glory, Jordan. And he said that they went to Disneyland with him. And it was just like, these girls were like, screaming like, oh my god, did you ever get that? Because that would be kind of awkward. I would think.

Jaret Reddick: 54:26

Yeah, I mean, that that happened quite a bit. No. Yeah, especially during those days of you know, having a hit on radio, Disney. You know, a couple of hits, actually. And then, you know, hits on the radio and stuff. So yeah, sure. The the mayhem happens from time to time, but, you know, it's,

Chuck Shute: 54:49

you know, I don't know, it's how do you handle that you just say hi, you know, wave or whatever. Hey,

Jaret Reddick: 54:54

what's going on, you know, and then they'll say your bowling proceed, but I'll go no, my name is Jared. What's your I like hoody, you know, poor Darius Rucker, he just everybody thinks his name's Hoody and he just ya know, my name is Darius.

Chuck Shute: 55:09

You talk about a guy crossing over his country song is a man. I love that song though. The ones I know he has. He probably has a lot of songs, but the one, the wagon wheel song is one of the most brilliant songs like of the last. I mean, it's where they didn't hear it till like, probably 10 years after it came out. But I heard it heard someone do a karaoke. I was like, what does a really good song What? That is a cover? Yeah. And that's the and then I learned it was a cover. And I was like, Wow, no, but it's such a great version

Jaret Reddick: 55:33

of it. Yeah, he did. Great. Yeah, he's doing good. You know, also like

Chuck Shute: 55:37

the country doing well with the country is the the Popoff brothers let you're gonna You did some shows with them, right?

Jaret Reddick: 55:44

Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah, they're great. Really, really loved those guys, you

Chuck Shute: 55:47

should do a shoot, you should do country thing with the two of those guys. That'd be fun.

Jaret Reddick: 55:52

Yeah, maybe. So I mean, they're kind of back to the rock thing. You know, and they're doing really good, like their new singles doing really, really good. So, you know, I think there's a bit of regret with those guys that they that they did the country record under the lit name. I think they probably would have done a little bit more, or had a little bit more impact. Yeah, but still, that country records so great. And their new album is so great. And I just love those guys. I've known them for oh, gosh, 20 something years. I mean, I was a fan before I was a friend. So that makes it more fun to take them to another country and just literally rocket with them.

Chuck Shute: 56:35

Very cool. Well, thank you so much for doing this. I always end with a charity. Is there one that you want to just give a quick shout out to here? I'll put it in the show notes. And people can throw some money that way after they buy your album? Of course.

Jaret Reddick: 56:46

Absolutely. If you wouldn't mind, I'm actually on the board of directors for punk rock saves lives. And we would love to have you come out to a show and let us swab your cheek see if you're a match for a bone marrow transplant. But one of our sister Charities is another charity that I work with here in Dallas called foundation 45. So everybody could check out foundation 45 It's a smaller group here in Dallas, and just doing amazing things for battered women and for musicians that are down on their luck. And just a great great bunch of people. So okay, it means a lot for me to for you to put that in there. Thank you for that.

Chuck Shute: 57:26

I will put that in the show notes along with your website and people can get the new country album and also the newest Bowling for Soup and I can't wait to see the new video and hopefully I'll catch a live show at some point.

Jaret Reddick: 57:36

Absolutely. I hope so too. Man. This has been fun. Thank you so much.

Chuck Shute: 57:39

Yes, thank you. Yeah, I'll see you next time. Yes. All right. Take it easy. Take care, man. All right, thank you so much the Jarrett, check out his new solo country album just woke up again. If you'd like country, you're gonna love it. And also the new Bowling for Soup album pop drunks not bread. It's just great classic Bowling for Soup. And you can check out the band's website for show dates and other updates or just follow the band or Jarrett on social media. Or if you enjoyed this episode of the podcast. We'll check out some of the other ones I had I had Christa makes from less than Jake. Jeremy pop off from lit. Robin Wilson from the Gin Blossoms art from Everclear Chris Balu. From the Presidents many, many, many, many more so you can follow me or the show on social media or subscribe wherever you listen for future episodes. Thanks for sticking with me. Have a great day and shoot for the moon.