Thanks for Listening & Shute for the Moon!
Thanks for Listening & Shute for the Moon!
Well, hello, everybody,
Chuck Shute:and thank you for taking the time to check out my little program here. I have a big guest today, Brian wheat. He's the bass player for Tesla. And this band has sold over 14 million records in the US. They have 24 I counted rock radio singles to top 10 pop radio signals, but more importantly, their music stands the test of time, in my opinion, still sounds great today. And Brian has written a book about his experience with Tesla. It's called son of a milkman. My crazy life with Tesla. And he calls it son of a milkman because he literally was the illegitimate son of a milkman. So it's like that old joke you would say to, you know, like to your friends, when you're, you're in middle school, like, Oh, your dad's not even your real dad. It's probably the milkman. Well, that really was the case with Brian. And that's not even the craziest thing in this book about his life. It's got all the typical Sex, drugs and rock and roll stuff, but also there's fights. There's Billy Mia, there's hookers and so much more. Unfortunately, I had a time limit with Brian and we only had about 30 minutes. So we just scratched the surface of a lot of this stuff. So do yourself a favor, get the book. It's an easy read. I finished it in two days. And he doesn't beat around the bush in the book. These are not drawn out super detailed descriptions of what happened. He just tells you bluntly, what happens or what he thinks. And then he moves on to the next thing. So it's a great book. And Brian clears up some of my questions in this interview. So enjoy it. Uh, welcome, Brian wheat to the chuck shoot podcast. How you doing?
Unknown:Hey, man, how are you? Great.
Chuck Shute:Great. So yeah, read the whole book. I listened to some interviews. I've learned a lot about you. I thought this was interesting that you know, besides music, obviously, you were actually a talented baseball player. And when you were young, you when you started playing the bass, you decided I'm going to play bass, and I'm going to be a musician. And you gave up baseball, why not continue with both? Why did you feel like you had to give up on the sports?
Brian Wheat:Because I think either one of those professions, whether you want to be a musician or a baseball player, you have to give it your all. And, you know, you couldn't commit to being a baseball player and a musician. It there's not enough time. So, you know, you had to pick one or the other.
Chuck Shute:Okay, fair enough. So I mean, so you kind of did decide at that point that you were in it to do it for a living right now, just as a hobby.
Brian Wheat:No, no, no. Yeah, no, I wasn't in it as a hobby. I wanted to. I wanted to make it the music business,
Chuck Shute:for sure. And so Frank Hannon, your Tesla bandmate. He actually lived down the street from you. And you guys played in a few bands together? Do you ever wonder what your life would be? Like, if you didn't live down the street from him? Like taught you guys are totally different cities?
Brian Wheat:Yeah, there probably wouldn't be a Tesla.
Chuck Shute:Really? You think so?
Brian Wheat:Well, yeah, I know. So I mean, you know, it all. There's a series of events that happened that, you know, led to that band, forming and being that band. Mm hmm. You know, had I never met Frank and there wouldn't be a Tesla.
Chuck Shute:Right. And then when you met Jeff Keith, your singer, you actually the first time you heard him sing you thought he sucked, which was kind of shocking to me. I was like, was he not good at that point? Or you think you just weren't?
Brian Wheat:I couldn't I couldn't hear him. You know, I couldn't hear him. Because he didn't know how to hold this microphone. Huh? So all you That's right. This feedback. That's close enough to hear him sing. You know, and in his ear. So Frank could hear that he had a good voice?
Chuck Shute:For sure. Yeah. So that that's kind of so once you heard him sing with a good sound system area. Yeah,
Brian Wheat:you can hear yet this great voice, right. Yeah. And this was I never thought he sucked. It's just the night he played he couldn't hear can hear shit. Yeah, for sure. Couldn't hear shit. And he went well, you know? I don't you know, you know, Frank was you know, thank god Frank heard his voice.
Chuck Shute:Right. Ya know, cuz he's obviously a great singer. And so around this time when you guys were first starting Tesla, you're working at McDonald's. And this is when you would it's like that movie supersize me you you gained 80 pounds of working there and then you did this diet. I've never heard of this diet, the rotation diet. So you do 800 calories one day 1100 the next then 1400 the next day and then you repeat that whole cycle
Brian Wheat:Yeah. Yeah, it was it was a week it was it was weekly changed. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was it works pretty good man.
Chuck Shute:I never heard how did you even find that dye? I've never heard of that.
Brian Wheat:They used to have it at the grocery store.
Chuck Shute:Okay, interesting. Yeah, yeah. And you had a, you had an interesting quote, If I'm just gonna read, I don't want you know, when I'll give away the whole book here. But I do want to read this quote about that. You losing the weight from the book, it says, losing the weight, Tommy, that everything has the power to control what they need to do. Or everyone has the power to control what they need to do personally, it was just sheer discipline, there was nothing fun or enjoyable or easy about it when I first started, but then the goal is in sight, it gets a lot easier and you feel good about yourself attaining that goal shows you that it's possible, then you can start to think that way about other things in your life, relationships, career, whatever, it's willpower and perseverance. That's the formula. It got me where I needed to be. We all get lazy at times, and we don't care that but that's not an excuse. That's the key Don't make excuses because they're easy to find. So do you feel like with with that approach? Is that what you kind of took to other things in life? Like with Tesla?
Brian Wheat:Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, that's my kind of mantra for life.
Chuck Shute:And it was kind of that that work ethic that helped, I think, did you say it was one of your first managers that kind of like, really drilled in that the work ethic for you guys to even though you ended up parting ways with him? He really
Brian Wheat:yeah. Yeah. Steve Kaufman, our first manager, when we were kids, we used to think use a drill sergeant, we used to fucking you know, hate him. But, you know, we loved him. And he's the one that taught us our work ethic. Absolutely. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:So that helps. And then when you guys are looking for the record for producers, I was curious about this. Why do you think so many producers turned you guys down for that first record? I mean, I know you guys were unknown, but it was a major label. Do you think a lot of the producers even listen to the demos or anything? Or do they just say, I've never heard this band....
Brian Wheat:I remember at that time, it was such an image conscious thing? So maybe, they weren't listening with their ears? They were looking with their eyes. And maybe that's what it was. I don't know. I mean, I'm glad they turned this down. Because it was all meant to be the way it was meant to be. And, Michael and Steve, were meant to produce that first record. It all happened the way it was supposed to, in the cosmic scheme of it all.
Chuck Shute:even though you're not happy with some of the audio production on that first record, you talk about that multiple times. Let's
Brian Wheat:just let's just get that straight. Okay. I think the record could be I didn't like the way the record was Mix, mix. Right. The reverb, the record, I think the record is great. I think there's great songs on it, great performances. I just don't like that it's swimming in a bunch of reverb. Right. And, and, you know, that's, that's all right. I'm sure everyone has something to say about their first album that they would do over again. And that that's what it is. Mm hmm. For sure.
Chuck Shute:No, but the songs are legendary. And then that first album, and ended up going multi platinum. And MTV played that video, modern day cowboy, and then all the radio station played it. And MTV. It seemed like they had such power back then, do you think that they really loved your song? Or did your managers have to in the record label have to kind of grease the wheels a little bit to get
Brian Wheat:it was purely organic, they liked the song and then the fans started to call in and it you know, it happened organically, just like signs did. Oh, man, our managers, you know, even though they manage Def Leppard and stuff, you know, they had some pool, but MTB, you know, if that was the case, all our records would have been on MTV. Yeah,
Unknown:you know, for sure. So
Chuck Shute:you guys tour with David Lee Roth. And I thought this was interesting that he and his manager had offered to manage you guys, but you turned him down. Was that out of sheer loyalty to the managers that you had at the time? Or did you really feel like your current management team was better than what David Lee Roth had?
Brian Wheat:Well, I didn't know what David Lee Roth had, you know, and obviously, looking back at it now, David Lee Roth never really managed any Ben's did he know. You know, it was we had we were perfectly happy with our managers. We had Peter and Cliff they managed Def Leppard. You know, they were they were, you know, they were highly regarded managers. So, we just, you know, kind of chuckled and you know, that was that.
Chuck Shute:Yeah. And so and you toured with, tell me about the differences because you said David Lee Roth, it was a lot of like, the rock star kind of stuff. But then when you tour with Alice Cooper, there was none of that you and you Felt like maybe David Lee Roth was kind of kind of put on a show for you guys sometimes, like you walk in the dressing room and there's like, panties on the ground and stuff. You know, like, Is this for real? Or is he? You know, that's
Brian Wheat:when we met him that night. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We he called us to his room when the last night of the tour when he asked us to manage us, and he had these two chicks with them. And there were a couple pair of panties on the floor. You know, Jay was putting on the show, and, you know, looking back on it, it's fucking hilarious.
Chuck Shute:It's like the show. Sorry. Sorry. That's funny, though. So this was interesting, too. If you said at the height of your career, you guys would be playing arenas. And you would walk around the venue during the opening band, and no one recognized you is that is that really true? Like, nobody ever recognize you? Because there has to be some diehard fans out there?
Brian Wheat:Well, there'd be a few. Okay, as a rule, no, I mean, you know, you know, I had a cap on or whatever. But, you know, people, people really, you know, they don't really they, they usually associate like, you know, if Tessa wasn't in town plan, and I went to Chicago, you'd find a few diehards that might see on Michigan Avenue shopping. But for the most part, people would, you know, they would never we weren't recognizable, guys, we weren't. We weren't, you know, on the cover of magazines. We weren't all over the TV. Louise, okay. He's just asked him. I got you tell him the lease. You tell him. He tell him girl. So my jack Russell, you know, she's telling you what's up.
Chuck Shute:Okay. Yeah, I heard about your dogs too.
Brian Wheat:Yeah. Um, so yeah, they, you know, they, they, you know, I think Jeff probably was the most recognized guy in the band.
Chuck Shute:Sure, that's always the way it is with singers. Did you know Did you do that? Just because you wanted to watch the opening band? Or were you kind of doing that as a test to see if people would recommend want
Brian Wheat:to see the opening band. I wanted to see, you know, what was out there in the audience. You know, what the reaction was like? Hmm. scope for chicks?
Chuck Shute:That's funny. So yeah, and then the second record, a great radio controversy. I thought this was interesting, too, that the you guys had to fight to get love song on the record, which has ended up being one of if not your number one greatest hit ever. The management didn't want it. And Jeff literally cried. Because they didn't want it. Why? Why do you think they didn't want that song? I mean, you listened to it, and
Brian Wheat:they didn't get it, you know, them or the a&r guy, but you know, we fought, we won, the song happened. And, you know, once we put out the song they got it made, certainly, you know, wouldn't have become a hit without the backing of the record company and our management. But in the beginning, they didn't think it was the song. So they didn't want to put it on the album.
Chuck Shute:It's just so interesting, because usually, it's the opposite. Usually, the record label wants the, you know, the ballad or the slow song and the band is saying, No, we want you know, harder stuff. And you guys are the one saying no, we believe in the song and they were then they didn't as just like, interesting to me.
Brian Wheat:Yeah, well, there you go. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:So you toured with Poison. And you said you really liked to CC DeVille. And he was cool. But you thought the other guys like we're a little too cocky - rock star you said at the time - again, I know you're friends with them now, but at the time you thought Bret Michaels was a punk? What did he do that made you think that he was a punk?
Brian Wheat:He tackled me in a flag football game. We were having a football game and the fucker tackled me I was going for a touchdown. And in a flag football game... and then he took himself out of the game. Because I said, Okay, now we're gonna play tackle.
Chuck Shute:He was scared of you retaliating.
Brian Wheat:Yeah, but I love Brett. All those guys were all , great buddies. That was back when we were young, and we were all on our head trips and they were... CC was pretty cool. And the other three kind of were caught up and the thing and that happens.... That's easy to happen. It's easy to get caught up in the hype for showing up today. Today I toured with them a couple years ago, and they're great. I love those guys. They're great.
Chuck Shute:That's cool. You guys can kind of move on. past that kind of BS. Well,
Brian Wheat:We all we all grew up. Yeah, I mean there wa no rivalry... now if I would have got my hands on Bret I would have tackled and broke his arm. And I told him, I saw him a couple years ago, I still owe you a tackle. Gotta laugh, but uh, there. You know, we're all good buddies. That's cool. And they've all they've all grown up and we've grown up and that happens... it happens.
Chuck Shute:For sure. So then psychotic supper. I love this. He that's one of my favorites. I think you said it was one of your best ones, too. But I thought this was a funny. Can you tell the story about how the a&r guy at Tom zitat. He came in, and he wanted the producer to increase the echo on what you give. And, and the producer didn't want to do it. So he used this engineering trick, where he pretended to turn a knob that didn't do anything. And he's like, Yeah, I got it. But Tom didn't fall for it, right?
Brian Wheat:No, hell no. No, Tom didn't fall for it. And then the, the, the, the assistant engineer, threw Michael under the bus. Yeah, he
Chuck Shute:called him out.
Brian Wheat:Yeah, so he, he, you know, he did it. We still didn't hear any, you know, more echo on the acoustic guitar. And Tom looked at the assistant engineering, he looked at me, so did did he did he do that? And he's just the engineer said, No.
Chuck Shute:That's funny. There's so many good sleep, stories like that. Tell me more about this one to you guys toured with scorpions. And then you did a private show for the King of Sweden. I didn't even know I feel like really dumb because I didn't know Sweden had kings. Like, does he live in a castle? Does he wear a crown, like walk me through this
Brian Wheat:was that we went to their palace, and we played acoustic after the show. And, and, you know, we, I guess I don't know if his kid was a big Tesla fan or something. But, you know, basically went and played this party. Acoustic, you know, and, you know, obviously, we ate like kings and drank like kings. And it was great. And Stockholm. Yeah,
Chuck Shute:that sounds fun. So then I think it was around the time for the Boston that record, which is another one that I really love. And Tommy had left the band and he rejoined. And somehow there was a there was a show and I think it was Tommy's drama or something. It led to a fight with Jeff and the drummer Troy getting into a fistfight backstage, but explain to me this, like walk me through this one too, because I'm picturing this image. And you said, usually you and Frank would try to break it up, or one of you would try to break. And he said, at this time, you just said fuck it. We're just gonna walk and you sat back on the couch, and you're eating ice cream cones, and you're just watching this fight. Like, were you rooting for one of them to win or?
Brian Wheat:No, not really. We're just, you know, we just sat there, me and Frank, you know, it was like watching Friday night at the fight, you know? And we just said, fuck it. We're not breaking it up. You know, cuz this happened quite a bit, you know? You know, with Troy and Jeff. They'd get into arguments, and then it turned into a brawl. We just, we just sat there and ate our eyes. kind of laughed about it. I
Chuck Shute:mean, that's a funny image when you think. Yeah,
Brian Wheat:yeah, duh. Laugh? Yeah. I mean, the two, those two are fighting and they even have a problem. You know, it was Tommy, you know, fell off the wagon again. And, you know, I was asked to leave again. I mean, I think he was asked to leave four or five, six times total. So he certainly had a lot of chances to get his his act together.
Chuck Shute:Yeah. So you say that you guys still get into a lot of fights today. But you call these ones discussions? Like do you think that friction and
Unknown:doesn't get physical?
Chuck Shute:Yeah, yeah. So but do you think that that like, friction and the passion that kind of helps make Tesla great, like, in other words, if everyone was to mellow
Brian Wheat:Yeah, we're all very passionate with our opinions. You know, and what we believe in and I think it does lend to what Tesla is, you know, look, we had to been passionate about love song we would, you know, we that wouldn't want up on the record. So right. We have, we're passionate amongst ourselves as well. I don't call them fights anymore because they don't turn into we've grown out of the physical altercation. You know, and we just have these discussions I like to call them
Chuck Shute:okay for is there screaming during discussions or
Brian Wheat:Sometimes, okay, sometimes there's motherfuckers. And they're like, yeah, you know what? We're a family. Yeah. You know, I mean, that's the one thing I realized, especially, you know, sit near to this COVID thing is that, you know, the four of us have been through a lot of shit together. Yeah. And, you know, there's, there's a brother in there. It's kind of, you know, even though we may argue with each other sometimes or call each other motherfuckers. And, you know, I mean, that's what brothers do. You know? I mean, you got any brothers?
Chuck Shute:Yeah, I got two brothers. So yeah, no, we definitely. I mean, I feel like we're, why don't you ever fight with them? Yeah, I mean, we that was more we're younger and living together. But see, that's the thing is like, now that we have our own houses. Yeah. See, if I was on a band. If I was on a tour bus with him. I'm sure we'd probably kill each other.
Brian Wheat:I realize we're like, married to each other. Yeah. Well, it's like, it's like brothers in a marriage. So you know, sometimes you arguing cussing each other? Right? You know, but we wouldn't let anyone else fuck with one of us.
Chuck Shute:So how do you know where that because obviously, with Tommy, and I know, you've talked about this a lot in other interviews, but things went south that but.. how did he cross the line to where you can't make up with him? ....
Brian Wheat:.... Me? I just man that you know that... I really rather not rap about that, man. But yeah, we're not gonna be friends. I mean, he's not gonna call me and say, "Hey, how you doing?" And I'm not gonna call him and say, "Hey, how you doing?" The one thing we had in common was Tesla. And he's not been in Tesla for 16 years now. So I mean, if I saw him on the street, I'd probably say hello, and ask him how he was. And who knows how he would react? He might tell me to go fuck myself. And then, who knows what would happen? I'd probably just go fuck myself. Or maybe I'd slap him. I don't know. I mean, he was in the band, and he got several chances to stay in the band. And he chose not to, and then he went around saying some not nice things about me. So why he singled me out, I don't know. But he chose to, he didn't say bad things about other people in the band. He just wanted to use me as this target, probably because I was the one that was most vocal and honest about his shenanigans, you know? So, being that as it may, I don't have a desire to call him up and say...
Chuck Shute:No, but if he called you and apologize, like maybe he goes through a 12 step program...
Brian Wheat:(If he called ) Me and said, Hey, man, you know, I'd like to clear the air and just .... I would accept it.
Chuck Shute:Fair enough.
Brian Wheat:Okay, you know, and I'm not saying he has to call me. I'm not gonna call him. Cuz you know, what, I know of him he'd probably tell me to to fuck off. So I'm not gonna call him.
Chuck Shute:Agreed, fair enough...
Brian Wheat:But it's not like I had this deep desire to become friends with him, like, something missing in my life. But is it weird? Is it weird knowing... Look I don't wish him any ill will. I don't have the voodoo doll of Tommy and poking with the pen. I wish him all the best. I mean, I heard one of his songs the other day from his new band. I thought it was really good. I was like, great. Fantastic. That's the Tommy Skeoch I know. That's the kind of work I'm used to doing.
Chuck Shute:Oh, absolutely.
Brian Wheat:After saying that he calls Tesla... he says that music we do now is lounge music. So every time I start to feel something for him, he opens his mouth and says something negative about the band or us and then I just figured, well, then again, he hasn't grown up. I don't know, okay, honestly, I don't.. The only time I ever really talk or think about him is when people like you bring it up. Okay.
Chuck Shute:Sorry about that. Yeah, it is part of my job. But so let's move on. Oh,
Brian Wheat:no, I get that. But I'm just saying you understand what I'm saying?
Chuck Shute:Oh, yeah, no, totally. I just didn't know..
Brian Wheat:I don't sit around and contemplate what would it be like if he was here?
Chuck Shute:Now that's fair enough. But so another way that you guys dealt with your problems was you you actually went to see a psychiatry, you had seen a psychiatrist privately, but then you brought the band in to see a psychiatrist together. Because there were things that you couldn't you needed to say to each other that you couldn't say without immediate aid, or what so what kinds of things did you have a hard time saying to each other? As opposed, you know, that you had to say in therapy, as opposed to just saying it over a beer or a cup of coffee?
Brian Wheat:Well, because usually what happens is when we tried to have a discussion, we were wrapped in a big fight. And what we're trying to avoid was a big blowout, where with you had some mediator didn't escalate into this big fucking blowout, and then you didn't get anything done for two days, because you were sitting around soaking because you hurt each other's feelings, right. So that was what a psychiatrist was brought in.
Chuck Shute:And that worked then helped get it worked.
Brian Wheat:Yeah, he taught us, you know, that, how to communicate with each other. Mm hmm.
Chuck Shute:So another thing I thought was interesting in the book, when you talk about when the band had a short hiatus for a while, and you were working on music stuff, you were producing demos and things, but some of the other band members, I thought, I thought it was interesting. Frank was doing landscaping. Troy was doing roofing. And Jeff worked as a DJ at a strip club. Like, I mean, is that weird for them to take these, you know, almost like demeaning jobs? I would feel like if you're, you know, you would,
Brian Wheat:you'd have to ask them, I can't speak for them. You know, what I mean? You know, look, I mean, Tesla are survivors. And all of us, the band is living testament that we survived a lot of, you know, obstructions in our in our career and manage to, you know, overcome them. So, at that point in time, it was just another roadblock. And people did what they had to do. I mean, yeah, if anything, if anything, I admire him for it, because they didn't, you know, go on welfare. And, you know, they all went to work. That's true. Doing whatever they could do.
Chuck Shute:I thought, you know, you just you think that at least they would be doing guitar lessons or singing lessons or something. Yeah,
Brian Wheat:well, you know, I don't know, man, you know, Troy's a damn good roofer. And, you know, Jeff was, he had a lot of fun being a DJ
Chuck Shute:at a strip club. Probably not the worst.
Brian Wheat:I mean, there's worse jobs you can do. Yeah. So and, you know, Frank was landscaping. He likes gardening. Yeah.
Chuck Shute:All right. Fair enough. And so, you know, it's interesting during It was like, because in the 80s, and stuff, you really didn't get into the drugs. And then it wasn't till kind of the band's hiatus, or kind of the later years that you started to get more into the drugs. And then I think you've struggled with the depression, and the anxiety and all that stuff for a long time. So I wanted to ask you about this. You said that normally, you weren't suicidal, but there was a time. I think it was in Canada. No, I was never suicide. Never. But you kind
Brian Wheat:of All I said was there. I used to wonder why people. I couldn't wrap my head around how we get so bad that, you know, Tony Bourdain would hang himself or Chris Cornell. And when I had this one bout of depression, I got so bad that I finally understood how they could do that. Not that I was competent. Okay. But I got it. I got the magnitude of, well, this was what they're going through, I could see how someone could could take their lives. I didn't, I didn't contemplate it, you know, okay.
Chuck Shute:But so when you're in that place of severe anxiety, or depression, or dealing with these hard, hard things, and having those issues, like what do you think would help you? Like, how can we prevent the next Chris Cornell or Chester Bennington? As someone who's kind of in Canada,
Brian Wheat:who's ever had suffering, the time needs to reach out to somebody and, and talk about it. Talk with somebody. I think when you isolate yourself, and you don't reach out or talk to anybody, that can be a very dark, dangerous place, because you're just on your own and then you just battle your mind. And, you know, if you got a friend or you know, somebody you can reach out to or if not call the suicide hotline. You know what I mean? Mm hmm. That's the mistake I think people make is that it's very easily to, to when you're depressed to want to isolate. And that can be very dangerous. Mm hmm.
Chuck Shute:So you think that's kind of an instinctual thing, because I also wonder if part of it was The stigma, like if you know, you're weak,
Brian Wheat:there is this stigma as well, you know, you don't want to appear to be you isolate because you don't want people to think you're weak. You know, because that's what people think if you suffer from depression, you know, you're a weakling Are you mentally weak, and that's not the case at all. It's just, you know, no one knows what causes it, it's an imbalance or whatever it is in your brain that throws you into this. And, you know, it's just, you know, no one knows. So, there's always been a stigma on it that, you know, you're broken. And so then people tend to isolate because they don't want to be judged or, you know, whatever the case. So helping people like, you know, Chris, and Anthony Bourdain and stuff, it makes people aware that, hey, you know, this can happen to anybody, even people that are at the height of their career. You know, they're not broken, they just, you know, I don't know, you know, I'm not a psychiatrist, you know, but I'm just a guy that is suffered from anxiety and depression, and just trying to help anyone I can by just maybe putting the word out there, like, Hey, I'm to one of those guys.
Chuck Shute:Mm hmm. and reducing the stigma and making it seem more normal, because it really is. So I mean, there's so many millions of people that suffer with that stuff.
Brian Wheat:Yeah, yeah. You know, the world's fucking wacky place, man.
Chuck Shute:It sure is. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I it is over the 30 minute mark here. So I do, I'll let you wrap up here. But I do like to end with a charity. Is there a charity or organization that you work with, that you want to give a shout out to?
Brian Wheat:Man, you know, my heart goes out to everyone right now suffering from, you know, losing their business and, and being shut down by this COVID thing and not being able to, to earn living? I'd like to see some help for those people. You know, right now, you know, I think those people could use a hand. Especially, you know, like the people that are in the road crews for the bands. You know, they're not, they're not working and that's how they make their living. Yeah. My heart goes out to those guys.
Chuck Shute:Okay, girl. Well, we could I think there save our stages is a big one that I can put that in the notes if that's
Unknown:Yeah, whatever. Yeah. Okay.
Chuck Shute:I'll find something.
Brian Wheat:That's your job.
Chuck Shute:I do. Yeah. That's one thing I'm good at. Well, thank you so much for taking the time to do this interview. I really appreciate it. Brian.
Brian Wheat:Where are you at? Man?
Chuck Shute:I'm in Scottsdale. It's nice and warm. Yeah, it's very beautiful. I see all my neighbors are shoveling neighbors, but friends on Facebook and stuff are shoveling snow. And I'm like, driving with the windows down and it's like 6570 degrees. So where are you in New Jersey now? Or Texas? You have two places, right?
Brian Wheat:I have a place in upstate New York a place in Texas. I'm at the Texas House. Because Yeah, because they came here because it's supposed to be warm for the winter.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, but I heard there's a snowstorm.
Brian Wheat:Gone three days without power and water and a big giant snowstorm.
Chuck Shute:Is your power back now though,
Brian Wheat:or no? Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's good. You know, they're not very well equipped for this kind of snow in Texas. No, no, they're not. It's very unusual. So all right, we'll try to stay warm. Yeah, man. Take care, buddy.
Chuck Shute:Okay, appreciate it. Thanks, Brian. Juice. Oh, by so many great stories. Many hilarious, crazy, sad, uncomfortable, but it's all in the book. And again, it's called son of the milkman. My crazy life with Tesla by Brian wheat. So get it, read it and enjoy it. And make sure to follow Brian and Tesla on social media to keep up with them and what they're doing. And while you're at it, if, while you're on there. If you want to give me a follow or share this episode. I really appreciate that. Thank you so much for listening. Have a great day. And remember to shoot for the moon.