Brian Tichy (The Dead Daisies)

Brian Tichy is a musician, songwriter and music producer. He has played drums for some of the biggest names in rock including Ozzy Osbourne, Steven Tyler, Billy Idol, Foreigner, Whitesnake, and Ace Frehley.  Currently he is the drummer for The Dead Daisies, who have a new album out titled Radiance. We discuss Brian’s solo project “Ball” plus working with Steven Tyler, focusing & work ethic and more!

00:00 - Intro
00:46 - Connecting with Brian
01:10 - Guitar, Singing & Ball
03:45 - Songwriting For Movies & TV
05:48 - Solo Record & Singing
12:50 - Working with Steven Tyler
17:15 - Setting Goals & Dreams
19:22 - Competition, Work Ethic & Focus
26:16 - Working with Legends
28:58 - MusiCares & Music in Schools

Brian Tichy website:
https://www.briantichy.com/index.php

Dead Daisies website:
https://thedeaddaisies.com/

MusiCares website:
https://www.musicares.org/

Chuck Shute website:
http://chuckshute.com/

Transcript

Chuck Shute: 0:00

We have a truly amazing guest today drummer Brian tishie is here the man has played with almost every big name musician and band Ozzy Osbourne, Steven Tyler slash Billy Idol, foreigner, Whitesnake, the list goes on and on. And of course, his current gig with the dead daisies. They have a new album out radiance, check out my interview with David Lowe. If you haven't listened to that one already, we go into the album a little bit more in depth. We didn't have a lot of time on this one with Brian's, but we cover a lot of great stuff, including his solo project ball where he sang and play guitar recording with Steven Tyler, his work ethic and so much more stick around Yeah, so thanks for doing my show. I thought it was really cool. You commented on my interview with David Lowe. And I was like, Oh, wow. Well, like I know your name. Obviously. You've been in so many bands. I was like that and obviously knew from Daisy. So I was like, I gotta have you on the show.

Brian Tichy: 0:59

Ya know, I happen to end up seeing that. And I thought it was well done. So yeah, little comment in there. And here we are.

Chuck Shute: 1:06

Yeah. Thank you so much. So yeah. Oh, you got your guitar?

Brian Tichy: 1:11

Yeah, yeah, I just I sit here and it's always here. So I can always pick it up and don't have to go make an extra turn to pick the guitar up.

Chuck Shute: 1:19

Yeah, that was one thing I learned about you is that you you play guitar and you you saying that band ball? I couldn't I can only find one song. It was a trap like a rat. But that was cool. That was a really cool riff.

Brian Tichy: 1:31

Well, thank you. Yeah, that was a long time ago. But it was in the late 90s. And I just wanted to see if I could get that going. I had written a lot of stuff and didn't have or know of a singer. And then as I let's see, what happens is go for it and that it ended up. Man, this was like 9899 and I started playing around LA and friend of mine started a label in Japan heard it and it was demos was just a demos of a bunch of bunch of songs I did with Gilby Clark's plays, and he was like, producing, you know, and recording it all. And they gave me a little record deal over there and put it out 99. And then I got a little deal in the States, the end of that year and did a record in 2000. The full record deal was like, you know, the real deal. But then towards the end of the year, we had mastered record, we started to talk artwork. And the label started falling apart. My a&r guy left and all these records they were supposed to put out got cancelled, and I sensed it coming. And I was like, okay, and it just, it fizzled out. And I tried for a little bit after that, but then yeah, that was about that was about it. For the most part.

Chuck Shute: 2:43

Can you put that out now? Like on yourself, like, just on Spotify or something?

Brian Tichy: 2:47

Yeah, I'm sure I could, but I don't really want to. Really, I want to hear it's kind of cool. Well, I mean, it was it was there's some good guitar riffs and decent stuff, but I was my first time ever trying to sing, ever, you know, I think the only thing I had done before that was I did a cover of a nice really song on a on an ace really tribute record. And like, now rip it out. Yeah, and, and I went in one day and did the whole song and like eight hours, mixed it and played everything and sang. And that was a great experience, just to see if I could do it. And, you know, but but listening back. It's like lyrically and my voice I don't even I don't really want to hear it. So I still don't really want to hear my voice. But I would probably do a little bit of a better job all around if I was to do like some kind of solo record or whatever now, but but over the over the past Well, that's a long time 20 years or something. I I've done a lot of songwriting for a buddy of mine who had a music company of nude songwriting company that he would get, hired people to write songs and get him in movies and commercials and TV shows and all that. And he had seen that band came to me after the show and said, Hey, I have a thing I'm starting up and would you want to write some songs. So through that I ended up doing, I don't even know, 6070 songs over these years for him and most of its ended up in commercials, TV shows and movies and stuff. And, but that's that was cool, because it's like you have to write songs in a style of in a vein of, but they're not, you know, you don't want to write them where you're like, Oh, I think that's actually something I should keep which has happened but you know, so it's a good challenge in a just a songwriting, just a, you know, work of, you know, just just working your songwriting, you know,

Chuck Shute: 4:38

if you get something you really liked and you use hang on to that one write a different one for the movie.

Brian Tichy: 4:42

Yeah, yeah. It was, well, it wasn't it wouldn't be specifically for like a movie he would take the bulk of songs and then send them out to all those people. And then over the course of a year you go Oh, cool. That was in law and order that was in MTV Cribs that was in this special that and you Well, that was an 40 year old virgin, and you'd see things popping up and find out about it later, you know, because

Chuck Shute: 5:06

you get like a percentage of that, or you just pay a flat rate you get,

Brian Tichy: 5:10

you know, Hey, pay you this much here. And, you know, you get a, you get your songwriting, and you know, but it's a word for hire. So, yeah. So that's the whole thing is that, you know, I, you know, my company owns it. We can do whatever we want with it, but I'm getting, you know, I mean, seriously, it's probably 20 years later, those songs are still being used in residual income. That's the dream. Yeah. And it's been in sometimes things pop up. It's the point with of telling you that was that? Yeah, that's, that's where I have to read the lyrics and say, Yeah, so it's a good it's a nice challenge. And and it's good practice, you know,

Chuck Shute: 5:48

Would you do a solo record? I would love to hear that. Especially if you have a bunch of guests like me, you know, all these musicians like have Gilby. Clarke Clarke sing and play guitar and a song and well, I

Brian Tichy: 5:58

would I think I'd start off just going I'm going to do, because it makes sense. Yeah. If you have guests and there's more attention, but I think if I was gonna do it, I would just do it to say this is what I do. You know, this is this is it. Guests are cool. And yeah, maybe something somebody would do something somewhere on it. But in my head, I just think if I'm gonna go for it, the easiest thing is to just do it all yourself. Yes. You won't get that. Oh, Brian says you solo record featuring baba, baba, bah. Oh, cool, then it then it's more noteworthy or whatever. But that wouldn't be my goal would be getting attention because of like, names. And you know, oh, I mean, whatever. Shankar guitar solo and you know, this guy on drums in this guy sing. And then it's like, that's fine. Maybe Maybe somewhere in there would happen. But I think I would just go for it on myself. And so this is what this is what it is, here it is.

Chuck Shute: 6:50

That's pretty cool, too, though. Yeah. Especially, I mean, cuz you've kind of already, you've already gotten your name out there. And you've already proved that you can work with all these other people. So to do it all by yourself, it'd be a really big challenge.

Brian Tichy: 7:00

Yeah, I think that's maybe even like just said, just to, okay, I have done a lot of stuff with, you know, that's what I do is play with, you know, hired to play with people, notable bands, or whatever. But, but yeah, so to flip it completely the other way and go No, nobody's you know, that's, that's what that's what that band ball was, it was really that just go in. At the time. I was just telling a friend or something that was somehow I played with, with Ozzy in 2000 down the oz fest, and that was awesome. It was just such an amazing experience, as has been playing with, you know, all those bands you grew up on and big artists and all. But playing with Ozzy was just really extra special. And, but at the time, I had that band going. And my mindset was so guitar songwriter, band, singer guy. Yeah, like just that was where my mind was. And I had recorded the record, which is really essentially just recording the demos that released in Japan, and maybe you have a couple new songs by just to, well, those were demos, I'm going to do it real now do it better, which, you know, I don't even know if the versions were actually better. They're, they're fine, but it wasn't like I did some major improvement. But anyways, it was I wasn't in drummer mode there. So then then playing with Ozzy, Oh, of course, you know, Scipio on drums, I'm playing with Ozzy I'm gonna, I'm a drummer, that in my head was like, my band, we have a deal. We just recorded the record. When I finished the store, we're gonna master it. So my mind was so you know, when you get your own thing going, you know, it's your own songs, that's different, different mindsets, a different way, different different side of your personality, I guess. In a way, you know, so. So I was, it was awesome to play. But I was still like, Yeah, they'll doing this. I'm playing drums because I do but, but I really have this other thing. I'm on guitar and singing, and I want to see that happen. You know,

Chuck Shute: 8:50

that's interesting. You're playing drums with Ozzy. And that's like, I think you said, that's one of your career highlights. But at the same time, you're thinking more about your solo stuff that was more important to you.

Brian Tichy: 8:59

In the big picture. Yeah, because just because drums. I don't know, like, drums are the top of the top for me, that's what I do. But when you put all that time alone into writing, and you have no clue if anybody's gonna like, like, I yeah, I know, I could play drums. I know, that was the natural thing for me to do as a kid, you know, it came kind of easily, you know, of course, I practiced a lot and played a ton, but it wasn't like I had to it was it was fun. It made sense. Everything about drums made sense. You know, and singing is not that's that was that's a struggle and writing lyrics and you go at second guessing everything and just that whole paranoia of standing in front of an audience and you know, on a stage and presenting your songs to people this is my voice is my lyrics. This is my that's, you know, that was brand new brand new, whereas drums it's like yeah, I've been playing drums since I was like, eight or nine years old records. That's that's, that's my comfort zone. You know, this was not, but I loved it because I it started because I love I always love guitar it is love. You hit a riff you play guitar and you have a drummer and a bass player and you're playing together that side of the band is just massive. I absolutely love it, you know, and the singing thing was I love singers. I wish I could sing I wish I was one of those people that you know, some people are just gifted with good tone and acidity a good year. And if they work on it, you know, for you know it, they can be a badass singer and songwriter. And I love that I love you know, what I think is just like, I love music, because, but I think, you know, drummers Yeah, and then guitar players, and I think right after that, it's just I absolutely love guitar vocalists and it's just listening to how an amazing singer, you know, delivers the goods, you know, it's, it's, yeah, it befuddles me just, you know, perplexed when I hear like, how do you just make that like a listen about Bob Seger track, we'll take Bob's ear for granted. You put LISTEN to His voice, like, it's so effortless, and it's so spot on and so right and there's nothing wrong and it's just, you know, just guys like that. You're just like, whoa, you know, but I'm so far from that. So, so that creates a lot of paranoia, you know, when you're starting out doing it, so that's that was all it was all a new thing. You know,

Chuck Shute: 11:10

didn't you sing? Did you not sing background vocals ever? Yeah, yeah,

Brian Tichy: 11:15

that's, you know, it's background. Like, you know, it's just not the same if you you know, that's great. You're enhancing a part of the song, you know, with your vocals and stuff, but it's so not the same as in front of a band singing your lyrics and your melodies and with whatever your voice sounds like, you know, and your voice that's got you Oh, my hands hurt or I got calluses or whatever singers. That's the hardest thing especially on tours. I totally understand singers like no going to do showcases for my band where my voice was, you know, I overstaying I still don't know what I'm doing. I just know that I probably never built up my voice where you have that built in strength? You know, it's just what you do. I was always kind of chasing it. And man on it, or you get a little sick and now we're on the road and sleep well, there's air conditioning, we're all that stuff affects singers. And you look at a guy like Robert Plant, you know, in the 70s. You're like, oh, Robert wasn't hitting all the high dose library cracked. It's like, do you hear what this guy's doing? Do you hear what he's he? What he developed into one Zeplin one if by the time he's 20 It's insanity. It's so insane. To keep that up year after year, especially in the 70s Especially now you're the biggest band in the world to pressures on. Every everybody expects you to be that thing from that recording every night. Nobody has any clue what it's like, you know, to tour travel and have to throw that down every night. It's I think singing is the most difficult thing. So when you see guys do that live there are some freaks out there that I'm just like, decades later how you still I used to singing like that.

Chuck Shute: 12:48

Yeah, like well and the guy that you worked with, I think Did you actually get to see him work when you played on the Steven Tyler record because that guy is still sounds amazing. Years years later, decades later. Yeah, he's

Brian Tichy: 12:58

one that always comes to mind because I grew up in Aerosmith. And I was as a kid I was like, I love it. I love the singer's voice sounds like a snake. You know just it's such a great character and it's so effortless and just he's a god I mean it the other day he was put here to do that. That's it. That's why guys like that. You know, they get passes. They get passes because there's really at a level but did I worry I didn't work him in the studio. He watched me track the drums on his on his on the song feels so good. You know he was there in the control room, which was that's a whole story of just does that make you nervous? Yeah, it's a little bit because I didn't know him. I had we had crossed paths which he which he doesn't know about the band pride GLORIA I was in in the 90s was Zakk Wylde and James LoMenzo Zach's band. We had opened for Aerosmith Donington we had done a run of shows opening for Aerosmith after that in that year, and so I was I think I shook his hand once you know, Tyler's hand but that was a long time ago. So but I'm a huge fan. I know the deal. You know about Steven he's originally a drummer and he's particular in the studio. That's right and you know Joey Kramer talking about the pressure in the studio with with Stephen and and that's where I say give him a pass because I'm like this yeah, this is just a person that so when I did so at the studio was great though it ended up it ended up being great. I was the second taking first take was cool. He was nervous because they were playing the track back and forth like the demo to buy take listening. It's like oh, man, he's not taking my feel. That's I was like, that's it. And then he gets on the talkback. He's like, Yeah, you got to snare another snare drum with some more ring to it. Hurry Oh, you want to tighter snare with more pop ring. One over grab another one cooker cooker cranked it up. Put it in do the second take. He and the producer money Frederickson? Listen back couple. And then what he's like, yeah, come on in. Now in the studio, the control room and Tyler turned around and he just complimented me and said, that sounds great. You're this drummer that you know, very, very nice. And I was like that That's, that's a highlight right there. That's, that's Wow. You know, I thought those I don't know if anybody else but you don't you don't have to give me a dime just let me have that experience and be positive. That's mean so much more, you know, you always got to weigh out that kind of stuff. You know, I really don't I'm on this planet when when a guy like Steven Tyler's and I actually get to work with him that in my lifetime and um yeah, that's that's heavy duty is worth that's, that's people dream of that stuff, you know. So that was great. And then after that a few years later, a couple years later, he called my phone and asked me to play a Varvatos tribute Vader's benefit with him and Joe Perry with Robert DeLeo on on base from STP. And honestly this is this is you just ask just the thought of you asked me to do a show with you, which led us to being able to the show was cool. But to get to rehearse with those guys the day before. That was another world. Like I don't know about other people. I just know how I feel about it. I think it's pretty much the general consensus would be feeling as I feel I don't I go in there. Alright, I've gotten to this place. So you have to I'm going to play Trump's is what I do is a place I grew up on I learned how to play drums to rock it to Aerosmith records. The setlist we had on it was like a 10 songs, stuff that I learned how to play drums too, you know, so there's no excuses to get, just get on your drums and, and do what you do. And that's that and which I did, it was all good. But to be in a room with him and to see how he works and see, to watch him just that one little day in my life to see to be to be around him and and on that level with nobody watching, you know, just the band and you know us as the band and, and some of the crew guys was just It was intense. And he's yours are huge. You know, that's a story unto itself, you know, but yeah, he was very kind and very complimentary. And that's that is once again, I didn't know what you want to play. Yeah, of course, I want to do this with you. I didn't, I don't ask. I didn't ask for a dime. Like if they they ended up sending me like a check. Thank you. You know, it was awesome. I don't care. You know, that's, that's just stuff that you don't know is ever gonna happen in your life. When it happens. It's like, massive. So

Chuck Shute: 17:14

you didn't like when you were a kid you didn't say like one day I'm gonna play with Steven Tyler and Ozzy, like, you didn't have those kinds of like goals set out. You're just set out to be a drummer.

Brian Tichy: 17:26

Well, I dreamed of it. Every record I put on I pretend I'm the drummer and kiss on the drum and arrow so I'm playing the live bootleg or kiss alive or Zeppelin and I'm Van Halen rush. I'm pretending I think I thought that was normal. Pretend you're the guy in the band. You got to you have to throw down. And that's that's a form of is a really good form of practice that kind of pressure right on. It's that even fresher as a kid just having fun. But because you want to get better. You'd want it so you're dreaming and hopefully, but no, I wasn't like I know. That was all fantasyland. Those guys are gods. You're a little kid. So I never really thought of it like that. Even when I got in. I guess as you get older, I went to music college right out of high school for like three solid years. Berkeley, right? Yeah. And you'd hear about people getting gigs, a couple my friends. Got some gigs. And it was like, it was all like, you just like, wow, this, you're going to a professional level now like you're out of college, and you're working. But you don't nobody. It was funny. There's nobody that talks about that at Berkeley or at a music college that nobody at least when I was there, no classes, and there's nothing anybody can tell you that prepare you for situations in the real world. It's like, every experience is completely different. There's similarities, yes, this is an audition. These are things that's all basic stuff, you know, be prepared, keep your mouth shut and kick ass you know, that's like that's it, but how you feel how you react to certain things that are said to you in a situation you've never been in? That's all like, you know, you can't be taught that. But learning from other just listening to other people's stories is good. You know, if there was some kind of class where like, it was just like, these are things that are you know, that people we all know, that are successful have gone through to get where they are. I think that's really that would be really that's a book I'd read. You know, I think that's

Chuck Shute: 19:09

the that's like the my life. I feel like that's my life's work. I'm always fascinated, because, you know, you talk about playing and having these fantasies as a kid, but how many musicians have those fantasies and they never get to live it out. And you obviously have done so many amazing things. But when you mentioned the Berkeley I heard one story that this this is something that stood out to me. You were you saw the other drummers there, right. And you felt like you were not able to keep up with them. So you were like working. What was this thing? Like you're working in landscaping job in the summer and you'd run home and play drums on your lunch break? Like that's how much you practiced?

Brian Tichy: 19:40

Yeah, yeah. That in because when I got there, I was exposed to all kinds of new music and drummers from other you know, I think there was 3000 students in Berkeley on top of teachers that were awesome. So you're just constantly wherever you go, like, I lived in the dorms, you come down the elevator, walk into the main lobby go down Some steps, and that's where all the mailboxes were. And it was called drummers row. Because if you sat at the lowest level, there was another little level of couple, three feet higher. So there's all these chairs lined up, and all the drummers that would come that maybe weren't living at the dorm, and they lived in, you know, some apartments or whatever, they'd all wait for the next classes, you know, whatever is going on in school that day, and they all be lined up at drummers row with they're just practicing on the floor, you know, so they'd be on the lower level. And there's a second level where people walking by up there, and there's all mailboxes, and they just be still, every time you walk by, you got 1015 20 drummers working on chops really get how good you don't I mean, you're just constantly grabbed, you know, constantly learning and picking up and, and it's like, awesome competition. You know, this dude knows this, or he should you're in play that. Yeah, it was overwhelming. But I ended up because I was like, Oh, how can you not you know, I guess it can maybe be overwhelming to some people. But I was like, Okay, I do this. And I grew up as a rock drummer, but I had friends like my buddies were, you know, I could he could do that. Or I learned this from them. Even on guitar. It was endless. Yeah. So but So after doing that, when I got home, I was like, you know, Dave Weckl came into the clinic. And we're and he was getting big with Chick Korea at the time. And we're all just like, I mean, he was, he's insane. He's just in. So here we are. I'm an 18 year old kid. He's like, 2016, in the clinic there. Talk talking about how we practice you read interviews and stuff. And that was, yeah, so when I go home in the summer, I have a half hour lunch break. And it was, I don't know, a six minute drive. And I would just boom, get my car, fly home, run down to the basement, play drums, 1207 to 1222 and then fly back to the job, you know, is like, never

Chuck Shute: 21:49

heard of anything. That's amazing. So how much you were putting a lot of hours into practicing? I mean, you must have an amazing work ethic.

Brian Tichy: 21:59

I don't know, I think right now I can tell you know, since my 20s, I've been like, I need to practice more. That's a long time. I've been saying that I don't practice enough. But I'm in a different place in life now. So you don't have to write well, do I? Okay, if I was going to play basic things I know, you know, and yeah, okay, I can do that. But to feel better about yourself, and to feel like you're getting better, which is always important. You, like everybody knows, every time you get one little step further, you know, it gives you a little confidence. And that shade, that's what I don't know, that's a big part of life, just feeling like you're moving forward and progressing. You know, so, every time I learned a little something on guitar, or my fingers feel loose, or my wrist feel good, you know, good, and that's just positive, and it's gonna make you react differently. But for me, it's just like improv. It's like, I know, I know how much better I could be. And I and I think it's just taken all your ideas in your head, and whatever your ability is, and be able to, like, just flow through them effortlessly. That to me is like, that's, you know, just being free with what with your talent that's, you know, which I watch other drummers do, and I'm blown away by and, and then I go, Well, if I just practice more, you know, or just constructed things a little better, like I had, like a, which kind of an organized person, for the most part, you know, so it makes sense for me, but then I go, but there's this other side of reckless energy and improving yourself that at the drop of a dime, you can go over something and make it happen, especially on drums for me, you know, I should be able to do that. But that doesn't mean it's gonna come out the way I want to at all. But I did practice a lot and it's but But to answer your questions focused, it's, it's about practicing. It's being what you are you focusing when you're practicing, everybody can practice. Yeah, I'm sitting here with sticks. I'm working on rudiments. Are you are you just are you just going through like a motion sort of thing? Or are you really looking at it? Like, why? Because I teach a lot, like, not a lot, but I teach, you know, somebody writes me, I'll give it if I'm home. I'll do it. But over the, I've taught a lot of lessons over the years that kids beginners, you know, people you know, you're older, you know, that it's get back into the drums or whatever. And I'm like, wow, you know, couple, I noticed things quickly, you know, I just noticed like, and then I can tell when I'm talking to them, or they're trying something new or trying to correct something or whatever. I can see right away some people you could see that they're focused and some people have built up, you know, bad practice habits where I'm like, I can't help you if I'm not there. Like if you're alone in a room and you have to be able to, it's focused, it's and sometimes, you know, you're going through the motions of warming up, but to actually go, why am I why am I stumbling over this? Why does this sound Herky jerky? Why isn't this comfortable? Okay, if you only going to get past that if you've if you really focus? This is like I have the ability to do this stuff. But this thing's a little bit of a question mark. What is it and I always I used to practice I was I thought this is a good thing i'd improv stuff. I was working on improv. I got it. I'm doing it. And then I try and put in stuff and just flow. Every time I made a mistake or did something that I didn't that wasn't what I wanted to do or didn't come out or It was wrong. I'd stop and I start to try to make an exercise out of it, you know, and I try and fix that, you know? Yeah. You know, that's what I had to teach. So I'm like, show somebody something. And they have it. They have this, they have this, but they don't have that little thing. I'm like, Forget all that. Let's get right to the root. What's going on here? What are your hands doing? What's the motion? What's the field? Got that? Okay, now we got to get into that. What's the end? What's the out once you get that? Give it to me slow, but you need to be really slow. You can do this slow. You know, it's really just this and this, you know, but now start linking it all together. And then you see them. Yeah. All right. And I'm like, but that's focused practice to me, you know. But yeah, so I did put the time in, but I don't enough now. And then now I just go, have fun with what you what you can do and try to get better. But I don't have a schedule where I can, where I, you know, I don't know if maybe some should wake up and they got the two hours that come back two hours of practice. And it's like, you know, my life doesn't go like that, you know, gotcha. So that's why Hence, if the more I have a guitar sitting around, the more I have stuff around where I look at it, it's in my face. Why not get put five minutes in right now? Why not? You know, just like, yeah,

Chuck Shute: 26:10

yeah, well, so I know you gotta get going here. I did have one last question. I was I was really curious, because you've worked with so many musicians, who's the most interesting to have conversations with like, Who do you have these like, really deep? Like amazing conversations with like, who's the smartest person that you've had conversations with? You've been on the road with?

Brian Tichy: 26:28

There's a lot of people everybody's I don't know who the smartest is. I have no idea. But

Chuck Shute: 26:36

interesting. Were you like, Were you just have really interesting conversations.

Brian Tichy: 26:43

There's a list there's probably too many too many. But But I would say it's more just for me. I just look at my bosses that have started these bands. And I, you're the one when you wake up and say I want to tour there's a lot of people employed. You're the one who wrote the hit song. You're the one whether it's Billy Idol, or Ozzy or Coverdale or so Mick Jones from Ford slash, slide. Yeah, it's like you just go you know, you know, I just, you know, like Vic Jones foreigner. He said, You know, it's just, that's his band. Those are the songs he wrote. And I just look at him. I'm like, wow, you know, I was learning how to play drums to your records on as a kid. But it's just, it's just inspiration. And wow, I'm just really impressed that you've gotten yourself to this place. You know, it's, it's amazing, because it's not easy to do. I'm here because of you, you know, playing drums for you. And I think their experiences are on levels that most people don't. I mean, you know, how many people can sit there and go, I put a record out with my band Whitesnake and sold 8 million copies. You know, that's, like, how did you deal with that pressure? How do you How did that make you? Would that make you become down the road? You know, and it can, it's a lot of stress, it's a lot of pressure, it's a ton of fun. A lot of what financially things are going on in your life you never saw before. It's like, you know, that's that's all man. That's, that's why people want you to say binge at work, because we just went through shit that we had no clue how to react to it. I mean, right. Now it has Jimmy Page, how it was in the the Yardbirds, and ask him how it was by the end of Zeppelin too. You know, it's come on, it's not life is not very different. You know, so I just, I just tried to learn from it. And they're all have been, I've been really fortunate to be around a lot of awesome musicians that have inspired not just me, but tons of people. And I just tried to, you know, kind of take some of that and retain it. And, you know, see how much advantage I could take of being around that, that that talent and knowledge, you know,

Chuck Shute: 28:47

yeah, absolutely. Well, you're with the dead daisies. Now you're doing some shows. There's a new album radiants coming out soon. So people should mark their calendars for that. And then I always end each episode with a charity. Is there one that you'd like to promote here at the end? Just give a quick shout out. I can put the link in the show notes that people have extra money.

Brian Tichy: 29:02

Oh, I don't. You know, I might say music cares. Okay. Yeah, that's a good one. That's yeah, and, or, I don't know the proper name. But I've seen it. I just, it's, you know, pushing to keep music in schools, because that was normal. When we grew up, you know, that was the normal thing. picket instrument, getting the school band like that, like, music, music, all this other stuff, you know, I know Hey, why do we have to learn? You know, why are we learning whatever algebra or something was it? Well, you know, the more you push yourself, the more you can, you know, you go above what you may need, you know, that makes you smarter. But man music is whether you're a musician or not just music makes the world go around pretty much more than anything, you know? Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 29:49

On a lot of music is math. I'm learning to like, I there's one guy who was in a band and now he's a he's a computer programmer. And he said, Oh, it's all related. Like, okay, good point. Yeah.

Brian Tichy: 29:58

Oh, the people go oh, Random students shouldn't count. You know, it shouldn't be numbers, it should be feel and all that I'm like, Yeah, but there are mathematical things that make sense. And this is basic stuff, you know, and, and, as is with a lot of stuff, but you know, yeah, it's a lots of things are lots of things combined. You know, it's not to put things together, it becomes that, but yeah, so that, but I think that's important, you know, to give, you know, so exports, okay, cool sports everywhere, what, what's, why not music, music can be completely creative, and it's non competitive. So that's a different form of that's a different part of your brain going on there. You know?

Chuck Shute: 30:37

Absolutely. Yeah. Well, thanks so much. I know you gotta get going. So I appreciate it. And I'll put all the

Brian Tichy: 30:42

links in the show notes. Awesome. Thanks. A good talk to you. Thanks for having me.

Chuck Shute: 30:46

Thanks so much, Brian. So, bye, bye. Thank you again to Brian and his PR team. Again, my apologies for not going into the new dead daisies album more. I should have covered that at the top. But again, they do have a new album out, it's called radians. Check that out. And again, check out my interview with David Loewy. I've also interviewed Doug and Glenn on the show about a year ago, you could check out that one as well. Check the dead daisies websites in the show notes and that will have current tour dates. And you can also find follow Brian on social media to keep up with him and all the crazy stuff he does. He's a busy man, he does other projects like the Bonzo bash, that's a tribute show to John Bonham and lots of other cool stuff. And if you want to keep up with my show, you could subscribe and or follow me on social media. And of course your likes, shares and comments on there go a very long way and I'm eternally grateful for that. Thank you so much for listening. Have a great rest of your day and remember to shoot for the moon.